Why no deities with prestige classes? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Why no deities with prestige classes? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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IrishRover
09-14-07, 09:52 PM Looking through my books, it seems to me that every single god and goddess has strictly vasic classes, with not a prestige class among them.

Does anyone have any idea why?

And would putting a prestige class on a new deity seem out of whack?
Taeldrin Laesrash
09-14-07, 11:16 PM It's because when the books were made, they could only use material from the Core books. (PHB, DMG, MM, and D&DG for Deities and Demigods; the same plus the FRCS and F&P for Faiths and Pantheons). Nowdays, they're less restrictive like that, but there's been no new gods. Check out Dicefreaks, they use PrCs aplenty for their gods.
goldomark
09-15-07, 03:22 AM Well, some of the gods of the Forgotten Realms (Faiths and Pantheons I believe) have PrC. Mystra and Azuth have levels in Archmage and Bane in Blackguard for exemple.

But it is said in Deities and Demi Gods that you can add classes or levels to the gods so they can fit your campaing. Boccob and Vecna both need the Archmage PrC badly. The rest is all up to you. How Big and Bad do you want them? And with Epic levels, gods should just be ridiculusly fun :D.
setekh
09-15-07, 02:47 PM My pantheon has Prestige classes out the wazzoo, especially with Deity power being increased somewhat (Greater deities get 60 Class levels + 20 outsider HD)
Wight_Chocolate
09-15-07, 03:24 PM Also, bear in mind that many prestige classes are in some way tied in with either a god, a mortal organization or both. It wouldn't make much sense for a god to be a divine champion of themselves, or to belong to the Harpers, for instance.
Amon_WinterfallIV
09-20-07, 04:53 AM Wait a Second:

Hades: Fighter 20/Rogue 10/ Assassin 10
It's not completely true, and there's no reason why they couldn't get those classes, with the possible exception of flavor (Consider a Deity with ranks of Asmodeus' Thrall. Doesn't work)
Thanael
09-20-07, 10:46 AM Also, bear in mind that many prestige classes are in some way tied in with either a god, a mortal organization or both. It wouldn't make much sense for a god to be a divine champion of themselves, or to belong to the Harpers, for instance.

Dicefreaks' Zuoken is a Monk20/Fist(of Zuoken)20, and at least one version of Kord has levels in Mighty Contender (of Kord). I find both quite sensible.
The_Shaman
09-24-07, 08:48 AM Assassin levels are pretty common. F&P deities also sometimes have levels in archmage, blackguard, shadowdancer etc.
Orchomenos
09-24-07, 10:51 AM Savras should really be a Loremaster.
In fact, he's perhaps already one, I just don't know. :confused:
IrishRover
09-24-07, 11:35 AM Thanks...there's enough examples from various sources that, when I stat up Saoirse, Goddess of Freedom, I'll feel more comfortable including a prestige class or two.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
IrishRover 09-14-07, 09:52 PM	Looking through my books, it seems to me that every single god and goddess has strictly vasic classes, with not a prestige class among them. Does anyone have any idea why? And would putting a prestige class on a new deity seem out of whack?
Taeldrin Laesrash 09-14-07, 11:16 PM	It's because when the books were made, they could only use material from the Core books. (PHB, DMG, MM, and D&DG for Deities and Demigods; the same plus the FRCS and F&P for Faiths and Pantheons). Nowdays, they're less restrictive like that, but there's been no new gods. Check out Dicefreaks, they use PrCs aplenty for their gods.
goldomark 09-15-07, 03:22 AM	Well, some of the gods of the Forgotten Realms (Faiths and Pantheons I believe) have PrC. Mystra and Azuth have levels in Archmage and Bane in Blackguard for exemple. But it is said in Deities and Demi Gods that you can add classes or levels to the gods so they can fit your campaing. Boccob and Vecna both need the Archmage PrC badly. The rest is all up to you. How Big and Bad do you want them? And with Epic levels, gods should just be ridiculusly fun :D.
setekh 09-15-07, 02:47 PM	My pantheon has Prestige classes out the wazzoo, especially with Deity power being increased somewhat (Greater deities get 60 Class levels + 20 outsider HD)
Wight_Chocolate 09-15-07, 03:24 PM	Also, bear in mind that many prestige classes are in some way tied in with either a god, a mortal organization or both. It wouldn't make much sense for a god to be a divine champion of themselves, or to belong to the Harpers, for instance.
Amon_WinterfallIV 09-20-07, 04:53 AM	Wait a Second: Hades: Fighter 20/Rogue 10/ Assassin 10 It's not completely true, and there's no reason why they couldn't get those classes, with the possible exception of flavor (Consider a Deity with ranks of Asmodeus' Thrall. Doesn't work)
Thanael 09-20-07, 10:46 AM	Also, bear in mind that many prestige classes are in some way tied in with either a god, a mortal organization or both. It wouldn't make much sense for a god to be a divine champion of themselves, or to belong to the Harpers, for instance. Dicefreaks' Zuoken is a Monk20/Fist(of Zuoken)20, and at least one version of Kord has levels in Mighty Contender (of Kord). I find both quite sensible.
The_Shaman 09-24-07, 08:48 AM	Assassin levels are pretty common. F&P deities also sometimes have levels in archmage, blackguard, shadowdancer etc.
Orchomenos 09-24-07, 10:51 AM	Savras should really be a Loremaster. In fact, he's perhaps already one, I just don't know. :confused:
IrishRover 09-24-07, 11:35 AM	Thanks...there's enough examples from various sources that, when I stat up Saoirse, Goddess of Freedom, I'll feel more comfortable including a prestige class or two.