About Spiritwall, [Archive] - Wizards Community

About Spiritwall, [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Radijs
04-04-07, 11:17 AM A Player in my group has just selected Spiritwall (spell compendium page 203) as one of his spells and the last combat encounter has left me with some confusion and a few questions.

1. The spirit wall has an offensive side which can be faced one way. Anyone coming within 60 ft of that side needs to succeed on a will save or become frightened for 1d4 rounds.
Now when someone is frightened but cannot flee he cowers. Now what if he is required to cower within 60 ft of the wall, how often does he need to make a save? Every round? Every time the fear effect runs out or only once when he enters the effect?

2. This wall can be placed in two ways. one way is the 10 ft square/level and the other is a 1ft. radius per level hemisphere. When you use the first method does the wall have to be placed in a straight line?
Marcus Majarra
04-04-07, 04:57 PM 1) Creatures make their save every round they are within 60 feet of the bad side of the wall. This might very well result in a lot of cowering panicked creatures in a short time if there's no way the creatures can escape the wall.

2) Since the spell is not shapeable, the 10-foot squares that the wall occupy must be in a straight line.
Radijs
04-04-07, 05:25 PM Pretty powerful with a save every round. But reading through other spells it does seem the logical thing.
I'm glad its not shapable. That will at least limit the way its deployed. During the last encounter the wall surrounded a phalanx of 8 soldiers and a spellcaster. His character's got spell focus & greater spell focus and another feat that boosts the DC's of his illusions. To make a long story short they all failed their saves and wound up cowering within the enclosed space for the duration.
With the second awnser I'll be able to curtail such things since he will only be able to create a 10' dome. If I scatter the opposition a little he won't be able to incapacitate as many people with it.
Marcus Majarra
04-08-07, 03:37 AM I'm not sure which of us is making a mistake, but effects that improve illusion save DCs have no effect on Spiritwall, since it's a Necromancy spell. Most fear spells are necromantic.
Radijs
04-08-07, 04:56 AM I'll have to ask the player about that. Its his first sorceror/arcane caster. He has been making mistakes but he's learning.

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Radijs 04-04-07, 11:17 AM	A Player in my group has just selected Spiritwall (spell compendium page 203) as one of his spells and the last combat encounter has left me with some confusion and a few questions. 1. The spirit wall has an offensive side which can be faced one way. Anyone coming within 60 ft of that side needs to succeed on a will save or become frightened for 1d4 rounds. Now when someone is frightened but cannot flee he cowers. Now what if he is required to cower within 60 ft of the wall, how often does he need to make a save? Every round? Every time the fear effect runs out or only once when he enters the effect? 2. This wall can be placed in two ways. one way is the 10 ft square/level and the other is a 1ft. radius per level hemisphere. When you use the first method does the wall have to be placed in a straight line?
Marcus Majarra 04-04-07, 04:57 PM	1) Creatures make their save every round they are within 60 feet of the bad side of the wall. This might very well result in a lot of cowering panicked creatures in a short time if there's no way the creatures can escape the wall. 2) Since the spell is not shapeable, the 10-foot squares that the wall occupy must be in a straight line.
Radijs 04-04-07, 05:25 PM	Pretty powerful with a save every round. But reading through other spells it does seem the logical thing. I'm glad its not shapable. That will at least limit the way its deployed. During the last encounter the wall surrounded a phalanx of 8 soldiers and a spellcaster. His character's got spell focus & greater spell focus and another feat that boosts the DC's of his illusions. To make a long story short they all failed their saves and wound up cowering within the enclosed space for the duration. With the second awnser I'll be able to curtail such things since he will only be able to create a 10' dome. If I scatter the opposition a little he won't be able to incapacitate as many people with it.
Marcus Majarra 04-08-07, 03:37 AM	I'm not sure which of us is making a mistake, but effects that improve illusion save DCs have no effect on Spiritwall, since it's a Necromancy spell. Most fear spells are necromantic.
Radijs 04-08-07, 04:56 AM	I'll have to ask the player about that. Its his first sorceror/arcane caster. He has been making mistakes but he's learning.