Ashworms and Paladins [Archive] - Wizards Community

Ashworms and Paladins [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Matthais777
08-04-07, 10:38 PM OK here's the deal. i've got a player who wants to create a character based off the dune series using the Ashworm Dragoon Prestige class from SandStorm, but he wants to be a paladin. now, the whole thing is rather vauge as to how this stacks up. The exact way it is said is
"When the consecration of the Sifting Sand is complete, the ahe worm has permanently lost its poison attack, but a mystic bond has developed between the ashworm and the paladin/dragoon. the ashworm gains the benefits of being a paladin's special mount and the dragoon can now call the ashworm from the celestial remls in which it now resides."

So how does this stack? would a 10Paladin/2Dragoon ashworm be treated as a 10 level special paladin mount, a 2nd level dragoon ashworm mount with the paladin being able to summon it, or a 12 level paladin, 2nd level dragoon amps, or even a 10 level paladin mount with 2nd level dragoon amps? HELP!!!!:confused:
Crimson_Concerto
08-04-07, 10:45 PM ...This is a VERY good question. I've always assumed that in your example, the Askworm would gain the benefits of a 10th level Paladin Special Mount and the 2nd level Ashworm Dragoon benefits.
Morwen
08-04-07, 10:50 PM It will gain the benefits of a 10th level Paladin, and the benefits of a 2nd level Dragoon. At least, that's how I would rule it :)
Matthais777
08-05-07, 11:30 AM Thanks, i ruled that it covered a 10paladin/2dragoon ashworm would be gain powers as a 10 level paladin with 2 level dragoon amps, but as 12 level paladin in regards to powers and intellegance. I also said that you could freely multiclass between the two, and by taking the Homebrew feat "Holy Wormrider" the classes would stack for smite damage. Now i have a question about the ashworm HD. When the a 10th level Paladin and 10 level Dragoon would amp a Ashworms HD up to 17 The advancment range stops 4-6 being large and 6-9 making a ashworm a huge creature. What happens after this? does it increase in size every 1 HD plus size catagory as seems to be in the chart, or does it just gain HD without getting bigger? and if it does get larger, does it get any bonuses like to strenght, Nat. Armor, and such? or does it just change from an ashworm to a purple worm? and what if my player dosen't want it to get bigger, any official way of stopping that? (Lots of dungeon delving adventures, can't fit a collosal creature in those 10 ft corridors.:rolleyes: )
Morwen
08-05-07, 12:55 PM Now i have a question about the ashworm HD. When the a 10th level Paladin and 10 level Dragoon would amp a Ashworms HD up to 17 The advancment range stops 4-6 being large and 6-9 making a ashworm a huge creature. What happens after this? does it increase in size every 1 HD plus size catagory as seems to be in the chart, or does it just gain HD without getting bigger?

The bonus HD do not count as Advancement HD. It will not gain any size increases due to the bonus HD.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Matthais777 08-04-07, 10:38 PM	OK here's the deal. i've got a player who wants to create a character based off the dune series using the Ashworm Dragoon Prestige class from SandStorm, but he wants to be a paladin. now, the whole thing is rather vauge as to how this stacks up. The exact way it is said is "When the consecration of the Sifting Sand is complete, the ahe worm has permanently lost its poison attack, but a mystic bond has developed between the ashworm and the paladin/dragoon. the ashworm gains the benefits of being a paladin's special mount and the dragoon can now call the ashworm from the celestial remls in which it now resides." So how does this stack? would a 10Paladin/2Dragoon ashworm be treated as a 10 level special paladin mount, a 2nd level dragoon ashworm mount with the paladin being able to summon it, or a 12 level paladin, 2nd level dragoon amps, or even a 10 level paladin mount with 2nd level dragoon amps? HELP!!!!:confused:
Crimson_Concerto 08-04-07, 10:45 PM	...This is a VERY good question. I've always assumed that in your example, the Askworm would gain the benefits of a 10th level Paladin Special Mount and the 2nd level Ashworm Dragoon benefits.
Morwen 08-04-07, 10:50 PM	It will gain the benefits of a 10th level Paladin, and the benefits of a 2nd level Dragoon. At least, that's how I would rule it :)
Matthais777 08-05-07, 11:30 AM	Thanks, i ruled that it covered a 10paladin/2dragoon ashworm would be gain powers as a 10 level paladin with 2 level dragoon amps, but as 12 level paladin in regards to powers and intellegance. I also said that you could freely multiclass between the two, and by taking the Homebrew feat "Holy Wormrider" the classes would stack for smite damage. Now i have a question about the ashworm HD. When the a 10th level Paladin and 10 level Dragoon would amp a Ashworms HD up to 17 The advancment range stops 4-6 being large and 6-9 making a ashworm a huge creature. What happens after this? does it increase in size every 1 HD plus size catagory as seems to be in the chart, or does it just gain HD without getting bigger? and if it does get larger, does it get any bonuses like to strenght, Nat. Armor, and such? or does it just change from an ashworm to a purple worm? and what if my player dosen't want it to get bigger, any official way of stopping that? (Lots of dungeon delving adventures, can't fit a collosal creature in those 10 ft corridors.:rolleyes: )
Morwen 08-05-07, 12:55 PM	Now i have a question about the ashworm HD. When the a 10th level Paladin and 10 level Dragoon would amp a Ashworms HD up to 17 The advancment range stops 4-6 being large and 6-9 making a ashworm a huge creature. What happens after this? does it increase in size every 1 HD plus size catagory as seems to be in the chart, or does it just gain HD without getting bigger? The bonus HD do not count as Advancement HD. It will not gain any size increases due to the bonus HD.