Fun With Shrinky Dinks [Archive] - Wizards Community

Fun With Shrinky Dinks [Archive] - Wizards Community

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wrecan
02-02-08, 10:43 AM Is this possible for a 14th level wizard:

1) Commission a large (nine-foot) statue of a soldier (5000 gp)
2) Cast shrink item (3rd level)
3) Make the shrink item permanent. (1500 XP)
4) Restore the statue to full size.
4) Hire 11th level priest to cast animate objects (6th level). (660 gp)
5) Make animate objects permanent. (3000 XP)
Voila!

A stone golem costs 50,000 gp + 3400 XP to make. Since the XP/GP exchange is 1 XP = 5 gp, this is 67,000 gp. Stone golems also have a 14th level minimum

The animated stone soldier is 5000 gp and 4500 XP (27,500 gp). Plus, you can shrink it at will to fit in your pocket. It doesn' get the stone golem
s slow attack, but it instead gets a trample attack. It moves more quickly, but otherwise is about the same.
LeeAlucard
02-02-08, 03:16 PM Disregard this post.
Sildatorak
02-03-08, 12:24 PM It also doesn't get a golem's immunity to magic, is subject to dispel magic and has lower DR (though it is hardness which protects against energy damage as well).

You also have the issue of whether the shrink object will be suppressed once the statue is animated because it is now a creature rather than an object. I don't know what the official answer is for that question.
mtbOgre
02-06-08, 07:12 PM Is this possible for a 14th level wizard:

1) Commission a large (nine-foot) statue of a soldier (5000 gp)
2) Cast shrink item (3rd level)
3) Make the shrink item permanent. (1500 XP)
4) Restore the statue to full size.
4) Hire 11th level priest to cast animate objects (6th level). (660 gp)
5) Make animate objects permanent. (3000 XP)
Voila!

I'm glad I don't have players like you.

Part of animate object states "This spell cannot animate objects carried or worn by a creature. "

Well now the statue wouldn't be carried or worn but if you shrink it then it is carried, would that then break the animate object spell?

This sort of breaks both spells but doesn't quite break either one.

What about just carrying the statue shrunk and having the cleric enchant it each time? Shrink Object is such a fun spell.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
wrecan 02-02-08, 10:43 AM	Is this possible for a 14th level wizard: 1) Commission a large (nine-foot) statue of a soldier (5000 gp) 2) Cast shrink item (3rd level) 3) Make the shrink item permanent. (1500 XP) 4) Restore the statue to full size. 4) Hire 11th level priest to cast animate objects (6th level). (660 gp) 5) Make animate objects permanent. (3000 XP) Voila! A stone golem costs 50,000 gp + 3400 XP to make. Since the XP/GP exchange is 1 XP = 5 gp, this is 67,000 gp. Stone golems also have a 14th level minimum The animated stone soldier is 5000 gp and 4500 XP (27,500 gp). Plus, you can shrink it at will to fit in your pocket. It doesn' get the stone golem s slow attack, but it instead gets a trample attack. It moves more quickly, but otherwise is about the same.
LeeAlucard 02-02-08, 03:16 PM	Disregard this post.
Sildatorak 02-03-08, 12:24 PM	It also doesn't get a golem's immunity to magic, is subject to dispel magic and has lower DR (though it is hardness which protects against energy damage as well). You also have the issue of whether the shrink object will be suppressed once the statue is animated because it is now a creature rather than an object. I don't know what the official answer is for that question.
mtbOgre 02-06-08, 07:12 PM	Is this possible for a 14th level wizard: 1) Commission a large (nine-foot) statue of a soldier (5000 gp) 2) Cast shrink item (3rd level) 3) Make the shrink item permanent. (1500 XP) 4) Restore the statue to full size. 4) Hire 11th level priest to cast animate objects (6th level). (660 gp) 5) Make animate objects permanent. (3000 XP) Voila! I'm glad I don't have players like you. Part of animate object states "This spell cannot animate objects carried or worn by a creature. " Well now the statue wouldn't be carried or worn but if you shrink it then it is carried, would that then break the animate object spell? This sort of breaks both spells but doesn't quite break either one. What about just carrying the statue shrunk and having the cleric enchant it each time? Shrink Object is such a fun spell.