Grapple and AoO [Archive] - Wizards Community

Grapple and AoO [Archive] - Wizards Community

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LordArcheron
07-17-07, 08:33 AM Hi,

When I start a grapple, I need to move into the defenders space.
Normally he gets an AoO (not if I have Improved Grapple).
But what about if somone else (let's say an ally of the one who I want to grapple) threatens my space, does he get an AoO because i need to leave the space for the grapple?

Thanks,
Dirk
Leilond
07-17-07, 09:13 AM Step 1

Attack of Opportunity. You provoke an attack of opportunity from the target you are trying to grapple. If the attack of opportunity deals damage, the grapple attempt fails. (Certain monsters do not provoke attacks of opportunity when they attempt to grapple, nor do characters with the Improved Grapple feat.) If the attack of opportunity misses or fails to deal damage, proceed to Step 2.

Step 2

Grab. You make a melee touch attack to grab the target. If you fail to hit the target, the grapple attempt fails. If you succeed, proceed to Step 3.

Step 3

Hold. Make an opposed grapple check as a free action.

If you succeed, you and your target are now grappling, and you deal damage to the target as if with an unarmed strike.

If you lose, you fail to start the grapple. You automatically lose an attempt to hold if the target is two or more size categories larger than you are.

In case of a tie, the combatant with the higher grapple check modifier wins. If this is a tie, roll again to break the tie.

Step 4

Maintain Grapple. To maintain the grapple for later rounds, you must move into the target’s space. (This movement is free and doesn’t count as part of your movement in the round.)

Moving, as normal, provokes attacks of opportunity from threatening opponents, but not from your target.

As you se from the underlined part, when you move to enter the enemy square for the grapple, you provoke Attacks of Opportunity from everyone but not from the one you're grappling

You provoke from him at step 1, when you try to start a grapple, not because you move to enter his square
LordArcheron
07-17-07, 10:10 AM As you se from the underlined part, when you move to enter the enemy square for the grapple, you provoke Attacks of Opportunity from everyone but not from the one you're grappling

You provoke from him at step 1, when you try to start a grapple, not because you move to enter his square

Ups, my fault, i overread it. lol.
But thanks anyways :D

Dirk

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LordArcheron 07-17-07, 08:33 AM	Hi, When I start a grapple, I need to move into the defenders space. Normally he gets an AoO (not if I have Improved Grapple). But what about if somone else (let's say an ally of the one who I want to grapple) threatens my space, does he get an AoO because i need to leave the space for the grapple? Thanks, Dirk
Leilond 07-17-07, 09:13 AM	Step 1 Attack of Opportunity. You provoke an attack of opportunity from the target you are trying to grapple. If the attack of opportunity deals damage, the grapple attempt fails. (Certain monsters do not provoke attacks of opportunity when they attempt to grapple, nor do characters with the Improved Grapple feat.) If the attack of opportunity misses or fails to deal damage, proceed to Step 2. Step 2 Grab. You make a melee touch attack to grab the target. If you fail to hit the target, the grapple attempt fails. If you succeed, proceed to Step 3. Step 3 Hold. Make an opposed grapple check as a free action. If you succeed, you and your target are now grappling, and you deal damage to the target as if with an unarmed strike. If you lose, you fail to start the grapple. You automatically lose an attempt to hold if the target is two or more size categories larger than you are. In case of a tie, the combatant with the higher grapple check modifier wins. If this is a tie, roll again to break the tie. Step 4 Maintain Grapple. To maintain the grapple for later rounds, you must move into the target’s space. (This movement is free and doesn’t count as part of your movement in the round.) Moving, as normal, provokes attacks of opportunity from threatening opponents, but not from your target. As you se from the underlined part, when you move to enter the enemy square for the grapple, you provoke Attacks of Opportunity from everyone but not from the one you're grappling You provoke from him at step 1, when you try to start a grapple, not because you move to enter his square
LordArcheron 07-17-07, 10:10 AM	As you se from the underlined part, when you move to enter the enemy square for the grapple, you provoke Attacks of Opportunity from everyone but not from the one you're grappling You provoke from him at step 1, when you try to start a grapple, not because you move to enter his square Ups, my fault, i overread it. lol. But thanks anyways :D Dirk