Immediate and Swift [Archive] - Wizards Community

Immediate and Swift [Archive] - Wizards Community

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pmurray@bigpond.com
03-05-07, 01:25 AM I read, somewhere, that an Immediate action "borrows" the Swift action from your next turn.

That is, if my Warblade uses "Monent of Perfect Mind" to make a will save (immediate) then when his initiative comes up, his swift action is already used up for that round.

Is that the case?

Also - can you use a move action to perform a swift action, in the same way that you can use a standard action to do a move action?

Thus, if my WB does a moment of perfect mind, (using up his swift action) can he use a move action to regain his maneuvers, provided that he then does nothing or makes an attack as a standard action?
Soel Griffin
03-05-07, 02:51 AM I read, somewhere, that an Immediate action "borrows" the Swift action from your next turn.

That is, if my Warblade uses "Monent of Perfect Mind" to make a will save (immediate) then when his initiative comes up, his swift action is already used up for that round. Is that the case?

That's how I read it. It allows for some synergy between Swift and Immediate actions (expend a swift action on your turn, then a situation comes up that calls for an immediate action, though only usable after your turn has finished,) at the cost of the next rounds' swift action.

Also - can you use a move action to perform a swift action, in the same way that you can use a standard action to do a move action?
Thus, if my WB does a moment of perfect mind, (using up his swift action) can he use a move action to regain his maneuvers, provided that he then does nothing or makes an attack as a standard action?

Not as written.
otakutaylor
03-05-07, 03:22 AM the rule makes sense, to keep characters from waiting till the end of the turn before theirs, using some spell or ability they have as in immediate action, then doing a swift right after that.

Sometimes I think swifts would make sense to be useable as move actions, similar to a standard to do a move. But i'm not sure if that'd work too well, since that'd give you 2 swifts and that might be more broken than two move actions and a standard action. Maybe there should be some rule about if you are limited to a single standard or move action in a round (I think some of the Tome of Battle manuvers can do that) you should be allowed a single swift in place if you choose, not sure though. Like how zombies only have one standard action per round but can manage a half-charge.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
pmurray@bigpond.com 03-05-07, 01:25 AM	I read, somewhere, that an Immediate action "borrows" the Swift action from your next turn. That is, if my Warblade uses "Monent of Perfect Mind" to make a will save (immediate) then when his initiative comes up, his swift action is already used up for that round. Is that the case? Also - can you use a move action to perform a swift action, in the same way that you can use a standard action to do a move action? Thus, if my WB does a moment of perfect mind, (using up his swift action) can he use a move action to regain his maneuvers, provided that he then does nothing or makes an attack as a standard action?
Soel Griffin 03-05-07, 02:51 AM	I read, somewhere, that an Immediate action "borrows" the Swift action from your next turn. That is, if my Warblade uses "Monent of Perfect Mind" to make a will save (immediate) then when his initiative comes up, his swift action is already used up for that round. Is that the case? That's how I read it. It allows for some synergy between Swift and Immediate actions (expend a swift action on your turn, then a situation comes up that calls for an immediate action, though only usable after your turn has finished,) at the cost of the next rounds' swift action. Also - can you use a move action to perform a swift action, in the same way that you can use a standard action to do a move action? Thus, if my WB does a moment of perfect mind, (using up his swift action) can he use a move action to regain his maneuvers, provided that he then does nothing or makes an attack as a standard action? Not as written.
otakutaylor 03-05-07, 03:22 AM	the rule makes sense, to keep characters from waiting till the end of the turn before theirs, using some spell or ability they have as in immediate action, then doing a swift right after that. Sometimes I think swifts would make sense to be useable as move actions, similar to a standard to do a move. But i'm not sure if that'd work too well, since that'd give you 2 swifts and that might be more broken than two move actions and a standard action. Maybe there should be some rule about if you are limited to a single standard or move action in a round (I think some of the Tome of Battle manuvers can do that) you should be allowed a single swift in place if you choose, not sure though. Like how zombies only have one standard action per round but can manage a half-charge.