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dodger1972rp
02-06-08, 12:03 AM Under Leadership there are bonuses for Great Renown and Special Power. Has wizards every defined these? What would qualify a character for these bonuses?
CryoSilver
02-06-08, 12:05 AM DM fiat.

Any character over level 10 or so probably qualifies for Special Power. Any PC that has been recognized by the powers that be probably qualifies for Great Renown.
dodger1972rp
02-07-08, 02:17 PM Of course everything is DM Fiat. If they meant above level 10 why wouldn't they just say so. Plus you leadership score goes up every level.
Colmarr
02-08-08, 12:09 AM I don't think Cryo was being snarky. He was offering valid and helpful advice.

There are no rules defining those terms.

"Special Power" is an odd one in that D&D is based around the idea of all heroes having powers. What constitutes a special power is therefore a difficult question. A new and unique researched spell would probably count regardless of level, as would the ability to cast level 5 or greater spells. As far as "mundane" PCs (ie. fighters/rogues/barbarians) are concerned, you would probably want to base it either on "impressive" feat choices (such as Whirlwind Attack or some of the tactical feats from Complete Warrior) or perhaps something else concrete about the character (a PC mixed from various "strong Fort" classes might have the "special power" or being nigh immune to poison).

Great Renown is plot-based. Has the NPC or PC done something famous? If so, they probably satisfy this criteria (eg. the PC is famous as being one of the Siegebreakers, an adventuring group who saved the City of Gold by destroying the HordeLich Zereketh).

In neither case are there hard and fast rules. My rule of thumb would be:

Do you look at what a character can do and say "wow": Special power

Do you look at what a character has done and say "wow": Great Renown.
Nom
02-10-08, 11:43 PM Note that "special power" probably should be something over and above (or independent from) class levels; they are already factored in.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
dodger1972rp 02-06-08, 12:03 AM	Under Leadership there are bonuses for Great Renown and Special Power. Has wizards every defined these? What would qualify a character for these bonuses?
CryoSilver 02-06-08, 12:05 AM	DM fiat. Any character over level 10 or so probably qualifies for Special Power. Any PC that has been recognized by the powers that be probably qualifies for Great Renown.
dodger1972rp 02-07-08, 02:17 PM	Of course everything is DM Fiat. If they meant above level 10 why wouldn't they just say so. Plus you leadership score goes up every level.
Colmarr 02-08-08, 12:09 AM	I don't think Cryo was being snarky. He was offering valid and helpful advice. There are no rules defining those terms. "Special Power" is an odd one in that D&D is based around the idea of all heroes having powers. What constitutes a special power is therefore a difficult question. A new and unique researched spell would probably count regardless of level, as would the ability to cast level 5 or greater spells. As far as "mundane" PCs (ie. fighters/rogues/barbarians) are concerned, you would probably want to base it either on "impressive" feat choices (such as Whirlwind Attack or some of the tactical feats from Complete Warrior) or perhaps something else concrete about the character (a PC mixed from various "strong Fort" classes might have the "special power" or being nigh immune to poison). Great Renown is plot-based. Has the NPC or PC done something famous? If so, they probably satisfy this criteria (eg. the PC is famous as being one of the Siegebreakers, an adventuring group who saved the City of Gold by destroying the HordeLich Zereketh). In neither case are there hard and fast rules. My rule of thumb would be: Do you look at what a character can do and say "wow": Special power Do you look at what a character has done and say "wow": Great Renown.
Nom 02-10-08, 11:43 PM	Note that "special power" probably should be something over and above (or independent from) class levels; they are already factored in.