Magical passages on native planes [Archive] - Wizards Community

Magical passages on native planes [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Thrushfeather
04-14-07, 12:29 AM How do spells like Phase door, Etheral Jaunt, or other effects and spells that allow magical transportation, via one of the other planes (Ethereal, Shadow, Astral, etc.) work when cast on that plane. Say a group of adventurers is adverntureing on the Ethereal plane, and want to get through some obsitical. The wizard pulls out his trusty Phase door spell to create a passage through the ethereal plane, but wait. We're already on the ethereal plane, and I'm looking around and there is a wall here. What happens? Are there other methods, or different spells. Phase through Shadow Door?, does it just create a passage throug a demi-plane? &t. Thanks.

Thrushfeather
tos_shai_hulud
04-14-07, 12:48 AM Well on the ethereal plane, if there is a door, you just go through it, because you can go through things in the ethereal plane. The actual matter is in the material plane. If it is matter that extends through both planes, then you cannot get passed it (like I think a wall of force goes through the ethereal) on either the material or the ethereal. If you went back to the material, you could go through the plane of shadow (since the ethereal and shadow planes overlap the material, but not each other). But going through the plane of shadow is tricky, because you move much faster there. You may be off by feet? yards? miles? (I don't recall)
Lindwyrm
04-15-07, 01:22 PM If you are on the plane where your obstacle bypassing spell would take you through, then that spell will not move you past the obstacle, as it exists on that plane.

In general, you will be using one of these spells to move off of a plane, move past the equivalent location of an obstacle, then move back off. In some cases that spell actually moves you to the plane (Planeshift, astral travel spells) in some it moves you through it, without moving you to that plane (teleport).

If the spell moves you to a plane, then gives you a specific movement form or speed, if you are already on the destination plane I'd let it give you the movement form or speed. If it just moves you there then it will move you to precisely where you already are (otherwise known as "No change"). If it moves you through the plane I'd say it would fail.

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Thrushfeather 04-14-07, 12:29 AM	How do spells like Phase door, Etheral Jaunt, or other effects and spells that allow magical transportation, via one of the other planes (Ethereal, Shadow, Astral, etc.) work when cast on that plane. Say a group of adventurers is adverntureing on the Ethereal plane, and want to get through some obsitical. The wizard pulls out his trusty Phase door spell to create a passage through the ethereal plane, but wait. We're already on the ethereal plane, and I'm looking around and there is a wall here. What happens? Are there other methods, or different spells. Phase through Shadow Door?, does it just create a passage throug a demi-plane? &t. Thanks. Thrushfeather
tos_shai_hulud 04-14-07, 12:48 AM	Well on the ethereal plane, if there is a door, you just go through it, because you can go through things in the ethereal plane. The actual matter is in the material plane. If it is matter that extends through both planes, then you cannot get passed it (like I think a wall of force goes through the ethereal) on either the material or the ethereal. If you went back to the material, you could go through the plane of shadow (since the ethereal and shadow planes overlap the material, but not each other). But going through the plane of shadow is tricky, because you move much faster there. You may be off by feet? yards? miles? (I don't recall)
Lindwyrm 04-15-07, 01:22 PM	If you are on the plane where your obstacle bypassing spell would take you through, then that spell will not move you past the obstacle, as it exists on that plane. In general, you will be using one of these spells to move off of a plane, move past the equivalent location of an obstacle, then move back off. In some cases that spell actually moves you to the plane (Planeshift, astral travel spells) in some it moves you through it, without moving you to that plane (teleport). If the spell moves you to a plane, then gives you a specific movement form or speed, if you are already on the destination plane I'd let it give you the movement form or speed. If it just moves you there then it will move you to precisely where you already are (otherwise known as "No change"). If it moves you through the plane I'd say it would fail.