Metamagic Feats [Archive] - Wizards Community

Metamagic Feats [Archive] - Wizards Community

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CelineSSauve
01-16-08, 12:59 AM A few of my PCs will be getting items which may allow them to apply Metamagic effects to their spells for a limited amount of times a day, if I'm comfortable with the advice I get here.

I was thinking of allowing the characters to cast the spells without the Full Round Action limit which is generally imposed upon instant casters. Has anyone attempted this? Did it turn out okay? Was it a disaster? The item only works about 3 times a day, so I'm hoping that it wouldn't offset things too badly, but wanted to make sure it hadn't ruined anyone's games.

((Apologies if this should have gone in the general DM area. I began to post there and decided that this is more of a rules thing.))
kuonji
01-16-08, 02:33 AM We took away the full round action cast time for spontaneous casters and the only thing it did was make the game more fun for the sorcerer since they could use quicken spell. Overall it had no negative impact on the game and generally increased the fun had by everyone.
CelineSSauve
01-16-08, 08:57 AM Okay. I was mostly thinking of just removing that restriction for uses of the item, but if you removed it for the whole game then that certainly won't unbalance things :P

Thanks, kuonji.
kuonji
01-17-08, 02:08 AM There's a PHB2 variant for sorcs that allows them to cast as normal #+ INT mod times per day. We just modified that to be unlimited times per day. Hope it works out for your game if you decided to use it.
Avatar of Kokusho
01-17-08, 08:16 AM Rapid Metamagic (feat) allows the same thing, but you can't grab it at an early level.

I see no issues with this, myself.
Arcane-surge
01-21-08, 12:09 AM I'm pretty sure that metamagic items, like rods, are a free action to apply to your spells anyway, and didn't increase the casting time at all.
kuonji
01-21-08, 01:48 AM I'm pretty sure that metamagic items, like rods, are a free action to apply to your spells anyway, and didn't increase the casting time at all.

Possession of a metamagic rod does not confer the associated feat on the owner, only the ability to use the given feat a specified number of times per day. A sorcerer still must take a full-round action when using a metamagic rod, just as if using a metamagic feat he possesses.

Nope.
Arcane-surge
01-21-08, 02:07 AM Fair enough. I guess that's what I get for playing wizards all the time.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
CelineSSauve 01-16-08, 12:59 AM	A few of my PCs will be getting items which may allow them to apply Metamagic effects to their spells for a limited amount of times a day, if I'm comfortable with the advice I get here. I was thinking of allowing the characters to cast the spells without the Full Round Action limit which is generally imposed upon instant casters. Has anyone attempted this? Did it turn out okay? Was it a disaster? The item only works about 3 times a day, so I'm hoping that it wouldn't offset things too badly, but wanted to make sure it hadn't ruined anyone's games. ((Apologies if this should have gone in the general DM area. I began to post there and decided that this is more of a rules thing.))
kuonji 01-16-08, 02:33 AM	We took away the full round action cast time for spontaneous casters and the only thing it did was make the game more fun for the sorcerer since they could use quicken spell. Overall it had no negative impact on the game and generally increased the fun had by everyone.
CelineSSauve 01-16-08, 08:57 AM	Okay. I was mostly thinking of just removing that restriction for uses of the item, but if you removed it for the whole game then that certainly won't unbalance things :P Thanks, kuonji.
kuonji 01-17-08, 02:08 AM	There's a PHB2 variant for sorcs that allows them to cast as normal #+ INT mod times per day. We just modified that to be unlimited times per day. Hope it works out for your game if you decided to use it.
Avatar of Kokusho 01-17-08, 08:16 AM	Rapid Metamagic (feat) allows the same thing, but you can't grab it at an early level. I see no issues with this, myself.
Arcane-surge 01-21-08, 12:09 AM	I'm pretty sure that metamagic items, like rods, are a free action to apply to your spells anyway, and didn't increase the casting time at all.
kuonji 01-21-08, 01:48 AM	I'm pretty sure that metamagic items, like rods, are a free action to apply to your spells anyway, and didn't increase the casting time at all. Possession of a metamagic rod does not confer the associated feat on the owner, only the ability to use the given feat a specified number of times per day. A sorcerer still must take a full-round action when using a metamagic rod, just as if using a metamagic feat he possesses. Nope.
Arcane-surge 01-21-08, 02:07 AM	Fair enough. I guess that's what I get for playing wizards all the time.