Mirage Arcana [Archive] - Wizards Community

Mirage Arcana [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Everdreaming
06-05-07, 12:50 PM Can you purposely fail a will save upon interaction with this spell, and thus treat it as a real structure for all purposes. I was wondering, because a player wants to use it to make a bridge to get an army across a gorge(and no, they dont have wall of stone available). Can this work, as the spell description says it includes tactile elements?
Edana
06-05-07, 01:45 PM You can always choose to fail a save.

Do note though that Mirage Arcana is a glamer, and is not, in any way, real. It'll look like there's a bridge. The character can fail the save and really, truly believe there's a bridge. That doesn't mean there's actually a bridge there. Stepping out over a chasm on a bridge that doesn't really exist can end up hurting a lot ;).

Because figments and glamers (see below) are unreal, they cannot produce real effects the way that other types of illusions can. They cannot cause damage to objects or creatures, support weight, provide nutrition, or provide protection from the elements. Consequently, these spells are useful for confounding or delaying foes, but useless for attacking them directly.

(Relevant bits bolded. From the definitions for figments and glamers.)
Everdreaming
06-05-07, 04:23 PM Thanks. I was wondering, because of the inclusion of touchability if you fail the save.
Mystic Lemur
06-05-07, 11:58 PM The best examples are illusions of walls. You can touch the wall and feel the texture of the wood, the moisture on the stone, or whatever (assuming you failed the save). But if you try to climb it, lean against it, or in any way apply active force to it, it will prove to be an illusion.
Vharuck
06-06-07, 12:05 AM Thanks. I was wondering, because of the inclusion of touchability if you fail the save.

This is only perception. It fools your mind into thinking you're touching something. However, it can't fool gravity.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Everdreaming 06-05-07, 12:50 PM	Can you purposely fail a will save upon interaction with this spell, and thus treat it as a real structure for all purposes. I was wondering, because a player wants to use it to make a bridge to get an army across a gorge(and no, they dont have wall of stone available). Can this work, as the spell description says it includes tactile elements?
Edana 06-05-07, 01:45 PM	You can always choose to fail a save. Do note though that Mirage Arcana is a glamer, and is not, in any way, real. It'll look like there's a bridge. The character can fail the save and really, truly believe there's a bridge. That doesn't mean there's actually a bridge there. Stepping out over a chasm on a bridge that doesn't really exist can end up hurting a lot ;). Because figments and glamers (see below) are unreal, they cannot produce real effects the way that other types of illusions can. They cannot cause damage to objects or creatures, support weight, provide nutrition, or provide protection from the elements. Consequently, these spells are useful for confounding or delaying foes, but useless for attacking them directly. (Relevant bits bolded. From the definitions for figments and glamers.)
Everdreaming 06-05-07, 04:23 PM	Thanks. I was wondering, because of the inclusion of touchability if you fail the save.
Mystic Lemur 06-05-07, 11:58 PM	The best examples are illusions of walls. You can touch the wall and feel the texture of the wood, the moisture on the stone, or whatever (assuming you failed the save). But if you try to climb it, lean against it, or in any way apply active force to it, it will prove to be an illusion.
Vharuck 06-06-07, 12:05 AM	Thanks. I was wondering, because of the inclusion of touchability if you fail the save. This is only perception. It fools your mind into thinking you're touching something. However, it can't fool gravity.