Post/Author/DateTime	Post
ElyasRavenwood 02-13-08, 07:37 PM	I am planning to run my players through the Pathfinder adventure path put out by Paizo. I have been reading the first issue “Burnt offerings” to refresh my memory before starting this weekend. I have a rules question. There are some goblin “paths” through a thicket of tangled undergrowth, vines, briars thistles etc. that the PCs will probably have to navigate. The modules refer to these tunnels as “thistle tunnels”. The paths are 4 feet tall. In the module it describes that a medium character will have to move as if “squeezing” because of the small confines of the “tunnel” through the briars. The module says that “ characters must spend two squares of movement for each square traveled”. That makes sense. Their primary foe will be a goblin druid 4th level. The module says that the druid will be casting entangle on the PCs the first chance he gets. The description of the entangle spell says that a character can “only move at half speed through the entangled area.” This is my question: What happens if some medium sized characters, while moving through the thistle tunnels, “ must spend two squares of movement for each square traveled”, find them selves dealing with an entangle spell which says a character can “only move at half speed through the entangled area.”? How does the entangle spell affect their movement? If a character has a movement of 30’ and can move six squares normally, but with the confines of the Thistle gobbling briar tunnels can only move three squares, finds himself in an entangle spell, where he can “only move at half speed through the entangled area”, would his movement be further halved to a square and a ½ or 71/2 feet? any help would be appreciated thanks.
celloshane 02-14-08, 07:11 PM	Ok, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this would fall under the rule of "doubled doubling". Whenever you have multiple X2 multipliers you add them so instead of movement costing X2(X2), movement costs X3. So a 30 foot move is reduced to a 10 foot move. If I'm wrong, then just remember that D&D rounds all fractions down. So your example character can only make 5 ft movements (if I'm wrong).
mvincent 02-14-08, 09:11 PM	Ok, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this would fall under the rule of "doubled doubling".From the rules (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/movement.htm#hamperedMovement): "If more than one condition applies, multiply together all additional costs that apply. (This is a specific exception to the normal rule for doubling)" So it seems like the characters movement would indeed be quartered.
Sildatorak 02-14-08, 10:06 PM	Regarding the half square, I'd let them move 3 squares as a double move or just 1 as a single move.
ElyasRavenwood 02-21-08, 11:50 PM	Thank you. this was very helpfull. One square it will be.