Natural Weapon attacks of opportunity [Archive] - Wizards Community

Natural Weapon attacks of opportunity [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Giao
11-14-07, 05:34 PM So a question came up in our last game about if a creature that has a full attack that is: 2 CLAW, BITE as an example can make an attack of opportunity with 2 CLAW attacks or is it 1 CLAW attack.

The DM thought the creature would get 2 CLAW attacks. The attack of opportunity is normally just whatever is listed under the 'Attack' row of the description correct?

Appreciate any help with that one.
Salla
11-14-07, 06:33 PM The creature only gets the AoO with one of its natural attacks, not all. I believe it gets its pick (just as someone wielding two weapons could take the shot with either).
weasel0
11-14-07, 11:20 PM Unless it's some kind of hydra.... but that's throwing a multi-headed monkey wrench into the mix.

But yes, the rules in question is whatever is under "Attack:XXXXX" is what the monster is supposed to use for it's AoO
Nom
11-15-07, 08:14 AM See MM pg 312.

You can make an AoO with any one (manufactured or) natural weapon that threatens the target, but if you use a secondary natural weapon you suffer the normal secondary natural weapon penalties (-5 to hit, 1/2 Str bonus to damage).
goawayugh
11-15-07, 09:17 AM One weapon only. Wielder's choice.

Whatever is listed under "Attack: ____" is the creature's primary natural weapon. Whatever other weapons are listed under full attack are secondary weapons.
mvincent
11-15-07, 05:51 PM Unless it's some kind of hydra...Even that is subject to more debate than one can imagine.
weasel0
11-16-07, 02:37 PM Hence the ... but that's throwing a multi-headed monkey wrench into the mix. and then saying nothing more.
mvincent
11-18-07, 07:08 PM Hence the ... and then saying nothing more.But that didn't necessarily imply that the interpretation was subject to debate* (i.e. it could still be a monkey wrench without being subject to debate), so a clarification was appropriate.

* Discussion available here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=953321&goto=newpost)
runestar
11-18-07, 09:49 PM Even that is subject to more debate than one can imagine.

Apparently, the rules compendium has clarified that a hydra does make an AoO with all its heads. So I guess that finally puts an end to one of the most hotly debated topics here.:)
weasel0
11-19-07, 01:00 AM But that didn't necessarily imply that the interpretation was subject to debate* (i.e. it could still be a monkey wrench without being subject to debate), so a clarification was appropriate.

* Discussion available here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=953321&goto=newpost)

Lol. That's a baby thread. There's one around somewhere from back in April? that went for like 5 or 6 pages.
mvincent
11-19-07, 01:11 AM Lol. That's a baby thread. There's one around somewhere from back in April? that went for like 5 or 6 pages.Yup. I could provide links to a few like that (as I mention at the beginning of the thread). My intent was to provide a current discussion so as not to highjack this thread.
weasel0
11-19-07, 01:15 AM Either way, it's nice to know that WotC solved at least one problem with the RC. I hadn't known that myself so thanks for that info runestar.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Giao 11-14-07, 05:34 PM	So a question came up in our last game about if a creature that has a full attack that is: 2 CLAW, BITE as an example can make an attack of opportunity with 2 CLAW attacks or is it 1 CLAW attack. The DM thought the creature would get 2 CLAW attacks. The attack of opportunity is normally just whatever is listed under the 'Attack' row of the description correct? Appreciate any help with that one.
Salla 11-14-07, 06:33 PM	The creature only gets the AoO with one of its natural attacks, not all. I believe it gets its pick (just as someone wielding two weapons could take the shot with either).
weasel0 11-14-07, 11:20 PM	Unless it's some kind of hydra.... but that's throwing a multi-headed monkey wrench into the mix. But yes, the rules in question is whatever is under "Attack:XXXXX" is what the monster is supposed to use for it's AoO
Nom 11-15-07, 08:14 AM	See MM pg 312. You can make an AoO with any one (manufactured or) natural weapon that threatens the target, but if you use a secondary natural weapon you suffer the normal secondary natural weapon penalties (-5 to hit, 1/2 Str bonus to damage).
goawayugh 11-15-07, 09:17 AM	One weapon only. Wielder's choice. Whatever is listed under "Attack: ____" is the creature's primary natural weapon. Whatever other weapons are listed under full attack are secondary weapons.
mvincent 11-15-07, 05:51 PM	Unless it's some kind of hydra...Even that is subject to more debate than one can imagine.
weasel0 11-16-07, 02:37 PM	Hence the ... but that's throwing a multi-headed monkey wrench into the mix. and then saying nothing more.
mvincent 11-18-07, 07:08 PM	Hence the ... and then saying nothing more.But that didn't necessarily imply that the interpretation was subject to debate* (i.e. it could still be a monkey wrench without being subject to debate), so a clarification was appropriate. * Discussion available here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=953321&goto=newpost)
runestar 11-18-07, 09:49 PM	Even that is subject to more debate than one can imagine. Apparently, the rules compendium has clarified that a hydra does make an AoO with all its heads. So I guess that finally puts an end to one of the most hotly debated topics here.:)
weasel0 11-19-07, 01:00 AM	But that didn't necessarily imply that the interpretation was subject to debate* (i.e. it could still be a monkey wrench without being subject to debate), so a clarification was appropriate. * Discussion available here (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=953321&goto=newpost) Lol. That's a baby thread. There's one around somewhere from back in April? that went for like 5 or 6 pages.
mvincent 11-19-07, 01:11 AM	Lol. That's a baby thread. There's one around somewhere from back in April? that went for like 5 or 6 pages.Yup. I could provide links to a few like that (as I mention at the beginning of the thread). My intent was to provide a current discussion so as not to highjack this thread.
weasel0 11-19-07, 01:15 AM	Either way, it's nice to know that WotC solved at least one problem with the RC. I hadn't known that myself so thanks for that info runestar.