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Magrus 03-14-08, 12:48 PM	I've been wondering for a while about how to rule on templates that provide a progression of abilities that increase depending on HD. Do the players that take them gain the abilities down the line as they level? Are they gained only once, depending on HD of gaining the template? Do they only count for racial HD, and not class levels? Thanks!
new_fashion_guy 03-14-08, 01:15 PM	I've been wondering for a while about how to rule on templates that provide a progression of abilities that increase depending on HD. Do the players that take them gain the abilities down the line as they level? Are they gained only once, depending on HD of gaining the template? Do they only count for racial HD, and not class levels? Thanks! Generally anything that has a level progression, like a template, has to take the place of a character level. So, for example, if you take the Vampire Template, and break it down into an 8th level progression, you could have a 2nd level character that has one level of the Vampire template and one level of Fighter. When the character gains a level, he may choose either another class level, or he may take a level in "Vampire", thus providing more V abilities and brining him closer to the stock template. I don't think I'd give template abilities with class level gain. The PC would in essence be getting more "bang for the buck" than the other PCs.
Magrus 03-14-08, 01:21 PM	Level progressions are fine, its say, the Half-Celestial and the like templates, with an array of spell-like abilities that are gained depending on HD. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that. I've got a player wanting to take the Half-Fey template, and looking through the list of abilities he could get, I'm seeing a spell list that would grow through 19th level outside of any class gained abilities.
Merestil Haye 03-14-08, 04:46 PM	Level progressions are fine, its say, the Half-Celestial and the like templates, with an array of spell-like abilities that are gained depending on HD. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that. I've got a player wanting to take the Half-Fey template, and looking through the list of abilities he could get, I'm seeing a spell list that would grow through 19th level outside of any class gained abilities.The abilities you gain from such templates as Half-Celestial are added as your character level increases. Remember that the Half-Celestial template is an inherited template, which means that a creature is supposed to have the template at the beginning of its life, not acquire it at a later date.
wonlee76 03-14-08, 06:07 PM	Depends on the template. Most template abilities based on racial or class HD come when you get the HD needed. (Half-Celestial spell like abilities, etc.) Some template abilities are based off of racial HD so class HD is not good enough to get those abilities (The Special Attacks for the Feral Template from SS for example specifically refers to "monster HD" when gaining those abilities). So read each template seperately and carefully.
Magrus 03-15-08, 01:51 PM	Alrighty, thanks. The wording is different as was mentioned in various templates, and most aren't clear. :rolleyes: