Slow and AoO [Archive] - Wizards Community

Slow and AoO [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Fitz10019
04-21-07, 11:39 AM Does the affect of being Slowed make the creature incapable of making AoOs?

It's logical, but the spell description does not specify it. The text states:

"A slowed can take only a single move action or standard action each turn, but not both(...)."

Because it says "turn" not "round" -- does that mean slowed creatures can make AoOs? Can they make one action during their turn, and one attack action during another creature's turn if the other creature provokes an AoO?

Another argument is that while being slowed gives a Reflex save penalty, it does not eliminate Reflex saves. So the creature still has "reflexes" -- the ability to react immediately (just not quickly).

Your thoughts, please.
tos_shai_hulud
04-21-07, 11:52 AM My thoughts is that by RAW, a character would be able to take attacks of opportunity, but as a DM, I might limit the attacks in some way (like you get one fewer attack of opportunity than normal, making it so that only someone with Combat Reflexes gets any at all).
Marcus Majarra
04-21-07, 05:29 PM RAW don't state that the character cannot take AoOs. Slowed characters can make as many AoOs as anyone would during a surprise round (assuming they can act on it). Heck, zombies, who are limited to a single standard/move action per turn, can perform AoOs.
Pegasos989
04-22-07, 03:18 PM I wouldn't remove AoOs because then already good spell might be too good... But yeah, by RaW AoOs are allowed and whether DM should allow them or not depends... Do you have zombies take AoOs?
MarkB
04-22-07, 06:47 PM Since attacks of opportunity are not actions in the game-mechanical sense, the limitation in the slow spell description has no effect upon them.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Fitz10019 04-21-07, 11:39 AM	Does the affect of being Slowed make the creature incapable of making AoOs? It's logical, but the spell description does not specify it. The text states: "A slowed can take only a single move action or standard action each turn, but not both(...)." Because it says "turn" not "round" -- does that mean slowed creatures can make AoOs? Can they make one action during their turn, and one attack action during another creature's turn if the other creature provokes an AoO? Another argument is that while being slowed gives a Reflex save penalty, it does not eliminate Reflex saves. So the creature still has "reflexes" -- the ability to react immediately (just not quickly). Your thoughts, please.
tos_shai_hulud 04-21-07, 11:52 AM	My thoughts is that by RAW, a character would be able to take attacks of opportunity, but as a DM, I might limit the attacks in some way (like you get one fewer attack of opportunity than normal, making it so that only someone with Combat Reflexes gets any at all).
Marcus Majarra 04-21-07, 05:29 PM	RAW don't state that the character cannot take AoOs. Slowed characters can make as many AoOs as anyone would during a surprise round (assuming they can act on it). Heck, zombies, who are limited to a single standard/move action per turn, can perform AoOs.
Pegasos989 04-22-07, 03:18 PM	I wouldn't remove AoOs because then already good spell might be too good... But yeah, by RaW AoOs are allowed and whether DM should allow them or not depends... Do you have zombies take AoOs?
MarkB 04-22-07, 06:47 PM	Since attacks of opportunity are not actions in the game-mechanical sense, the limitation in the slow spell description has no effect upon them.