Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Faelar006 09-18-07, 03:39 PM	Double post.
Myers 09-18-07, 04:39 PM	There's no concrete answer on this, but I personally consider touch spells to involve touching with your hand. In which case it is for better or worse a natural attack against the touch AC. So I'd say from a grapple, fine at -4 penelty to the attack roll, from a pin I'd say no