Spell casting and other actions [Archive] - Wizards Community

Spell casting and other actions [Archive] - Wizards Community

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gojumamoru
08-27-07, 03:24 PM I have a simple question that I should allready know the anwser to. When you cast and normal spell what are your actions limited to in that round?

I ask because a caster in my game tried to cast a spell then tried to move his full speed (flying) from a monster. I told him that he was limited to a 5 foot step and he insisted they changed that in 3.5 because I didn't want to go look it up I just said 5' step and we will resolve it later. So now I'm trying to understand how we both have come to very different interpretations of the rules.
Frostflame
08-27-07, 03:28 PM Depends on the spell

Most spells have a casting time of a standard action , so yes they allow you to take a move action

As your actions in a round are limited to either

2 move actions

1 move + 1 standard ( for example casting fireball, cure light wounds , or a single attack)

1 full round action +5ft step ( for example a full attack , or metamagicked spells by a sorcerer/bard )
Nephlite
08-27-07, 03:35 PM I have a simple question that I should allready know the anwser to. When you cast and normal spell what are your actions limited to in that round?

I ask because a caster in my game tried to cast a spell then tried to move his full speed (flying) from a monster. I told him that he was limited to a 5 foot step and he insisted they changed that in 3.5 because I didn't want to go look it up I just said 5' step and we will resolve it later. So now I'm trying to understand how we both have come to very different interpretations of the rules.

You have 2 possible actions + 5 foot step (if you don't move).
Standard or Move action. If you combine them: you get Full round action: required for Sorcerors to metamagic, full attacking dudes from BAB or natural weapons, etc.

Standard action include cast unless spell says otherwise (swift actions are like quickened, 1 round action spells take all round).

So he could move he move speed and cast. But he provokes an attack of opportunity from movement (unlike 5 foot steps which don't).
DrMorganes
08-27-07, 04:06 PM I have a simple question that I should allready know the anwser to. When you cast and normal spell what are your actions limited to in that round?

I ask because a caster in my game tried to cast a spell then tried to move his full speed (flying) from a monster. I told him that he was limited to a 5 foot step and he insisted they changed that in 3.5 because I didn't want to go look it up I just said 5' step and we will resolve it later. So now I'm trying to understand how we both have come to very different interpretations of the rules.

Whether flying, walking, climbing, swimming, brachiating, burrowing, or doing the moonwalk, any creature can move up to its listed speed as a move action. As long as the spell in question does not state "1 Round" as its casting time, the caster is certainly able to move up to his listed Fly speed and cast the spell.
gojumamoru
08-27-07, 05:26 PM Thank you all for the help. My player will be happy I've been set straight on that.
TwistedFate
08-28-07, 04:32 PM I'm not a DM but I have a similar question along this exact same vein that came up at our last session. I have a wizard with Fiery Burst feat from Complete Mage. Fiery Burst allows me to do a burst of fire damage by taking a standard action to do it. The question is can I take that action AND cast a standard action spell in the same round?

I got to be honest, my DM was a little crestfallen when I did Fiery Burst and Empowered Fireball in the same round and he failed both saves taking 78 damage. I'm all about dealing as much damage as possible, but not if I'm breaking rules to do it.
Anathema
08-28-07, 04:35 PM I'm not a DM but I have a similar question along this exact same vein that came up at our last session. I have a wizard with Fiery Burst feat from Complete Mage. Fiery Burst allows me to do a burst of fire damage by taking a standard action to do it. The question is can I take that action AND cast a standard action spell in the same round?

I got to be honest, my DM was a little crestfallen when I did Fiery Burst and Empowered Fireball in the same round and he failed both saves taking 78 damage. I'm all about dealing as much damage as possible, but not if I'm breaking rules to do it.

You can't use two standard actions in one round. You either spend your round doing a full round action, or split it up in to 1 standard and 1 move-equivalent action.
TwistedFate
08-28-07, 04:44 PM Thank you. That helps level the playing field a bit.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
gojumamoru 08-27-07, 03:24 PM	I have a simple question that I should allready know the anwser to. When you cast and normal spell what are your actions limited to in that round? I ask because a caster in my game tried to cast a spell then tried to move his full speed (flying) from a monster. I told him that he was limited to a 5 foot step and he insisted they changed that in 3.5 because I didn't want to go look it up I just said 5' step and we will resolve it later. So now I'm trying to understand how we both have come to very different interpretations of the rules.
Frostflame 08-27-07, 03:28 PM	Depends on the spell Most spells have a casting time of a standard action , so yes they allow you to take a move action As your actions in a round are limited to either 2 move actions 1 move + 1 standard ( for example casting fireball, cure light wounds , or a single attack) 1 full round action +5ft step ( for example a full attack , or metamagicked spells by a sorcerer/bard )
Nephlite 08-27-07, 03:35 PM	I have a simple question that I should allready know the anwser to. When you cast and normal spell what are your actions limited to in that round? I ask because a caster in my game tried to cast a spell then tried to move his full speed (flying) from a monster. I told him that he was limited to a 5 foot step and he insisted they changed that in 3.5 because I didn't want to go look it up I just said 5' step and we will resolve it later. So now I'm trying to understand how we both have come to very different interpretations of the rules. You have 2 possible actions + 5 foot step (if you don't move). Standard or Move action. If you combine them: you get Full round action: required for Sorcerors to metamagic, full attacking dudes from BAB or natural weapons, etc. Standard action include cast unless spell says otherwise (swift actions are like quickened, 1 round action spells take all round). So he could move he move speed and cast. But he provokes an attack of opportunity from movement (unlike 5 foot steps which don't).
DrMorganes 08-27-07, 04:06 PM	I have a simple question that I should allready know the anwser to. When you cast and normal spell what are your actions limited to in that round? I ask because a caster in my game tried to cast a spell then tried to move his full speed (flying) from a monster. I told him that he was limited to a 5 foot step and he insisted they changed that in 3.5 because I didn't want to go look it up I just said 5' step and we will resolve it later. So now I'm trying to understand how we both have come to very different interpretations of the rules. Whether flying, walking, climbing, swimming, brachiating, burrowing, or doing the moonwalk, any creature can move up to its listed speed as a move action. As long as the spell in question does not state "1 Round" as its casting time, the caster is certainly able to move up to his listed Fly speed and cast the spell.
gojumamoru 08-27-07, 05:26 PM	Thank you all for the help. My player will be happy I've been set straight on that.
TwistedFate 08-28-07, 04:32 PM	I'm not a DM but I have a similar question along this exact same vein that came up at our last session. I have a wizard with Fiery Burst feat from Complete Mage. Fiery Burst allows me to do a burst of fire damage by taking a standard action to do it. The question is can I take that action AND cast a standard action spell in the same round? I got to be honest, my DM was a little crestfallen when I did Fiery Burst and Empowered Fireball in the same round and he failed both saves taking 78 damage. I'm all about dealing as much damage as possible, but not if I'm breaking rules to do it.
Anathema 08-28-07, 04:35 PM	I'm not a DM but I have a similar question along this exact same vein that came up at our last session. I have a wizard with Fiery Burst feat from Complete Mage. Fiery Burst allows me to do a burst of fire damage by taking a standard action to do it. The question is can I take that action AND cast a standard action spell in the same round? I got to be honest, my DM was a little crestfallen when I did Fiery Burst and Empowered Fireball in the same round and he failed both saves taking 78 damage. I'm all about dealing as much damage as possible, but not if I'm breaking rules to do it. You can't use two standard actions in one round. You either spend your round doing a full round action, or split it up in to 1 standard and 1 move-equivalent action.
TwistedFate 08-28-07, 04:44 PM	Thank you. That helps level the playing field a bit.