Spellfire Weilder [Archive] - Wizards Community

Spellfire Weilder [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Morray
05-30-07, 09:28 AM Other than Magic of Faerun, is there a place that has more detailed information on how spellfire works? How do you determine which spells are absorbed? Can the character cast spells upon themselves to be absorbed?
steventirey1985
05-30-07, 11:18 AM Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting has some info, but as far as I know, the mechanics of it are only in Magic of Faerun.

A spellfire wielder can only absorb spells targeted specifically at him. So spells like scorching ray, disentegrate, etc. A fireball won't be absorbed. Remember, a spellfire wielder can only absorb a spell if he has readied an action to do so. (See Ready action in the PHB). It takes a standard action to ready an action, so the spellfire wielder won't be doing much else if they want to absorb a spell.

And no, a spellfire wielder can't cast spells upon himself and absorb them. His allies can, however.
sparkster4242
06-05-07, 01:05 AM as far as i recall, the only thing preventing a character with Spellfire Wielder from absorbing his own spells is the number of actions he has available in a round. readying an action takes up his standard action, so most spells arent going to work, but there are ways to make it possible.

he could ready to absorb (standard action), then cast a spell at himself as a free, swift, or immediate action (Quicken Spell, Featherfall, etc...). he could use a spell or magic item to grant him an extra action in a round (see the belts in the Magic Item Compendium), he may even be able to use the Delay Spell metamagic feat to allow him to cast a spell one round, and absorb the next.
Morray
06-07-07, 01:30 PM The player makes a good argument however in being allowed to absorb his own spells. They are not in combat. So why can't the spell carry over in 'time' to allow him to ready it, then cast the spell.

The targeting I understand, however he's wanting others to cast some spells upon him that are not usually targeted to a person, but things. Like Erase.

Would spells like purify water count? It is a targeted spell so again, I see his point. But looking for how to explain it should I not allow this.
IllyannaFarseer
06-09-07, 05:35 PM I'd say no, as he wouldn't be the target of those spells.

Basically spellfire was designed to give some people the abilities of the spellfire weilder in the book "Spellfire" and she only absorbed energy that was directed at her.

So as was said, if the weilder readied an action to absorb a spell, and the wizard casts acid arrow, then the weilder absorbs it. If the wizard instead casts fireball, as its not targeted at the weilder it can't be absorbed (they give the example of rod of cancellation).

So the weilder can't cast darkness on themselves and then next round absorb it..unless they have a feat/item that allowed them to cast it as a free/immediate/swift action after preparing a standard action to absorb it.

Also if thier buddy casts purify water on a tub of water/pond etc, then the weilder isn't being targetted and can't absorb it, and you can't cast it on someone so, I'd say that's out as well.

If the weilder wants to pump up, then he'll have to have his friends cast targetted spells at him that he can then absorb. (or use a wand, scrolls, items as long as they target him)

That's my take on it anyway.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Morray 05-30-07, 09:28 AM	Other than Magic of Faerun, is there a place that has more detailed information on how spellfire works? How do you determine which spells are absorbed? Can the character cast spells upon themselves to be absorbed?
steventirey1985 05-30-07, 11:18 AM	Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting has some info, but as far as I know, the mechanics of it are only in Magic of Faerun. A spellfire wielder can only absorb spells targeted specifically at him. So spells like scorching ray, disentegrate, etc. A fireball won't be absorbed. Remember, a spellfire wielder can only absorb a spell if he has readied an action to do so. (See Ready action in the PHB). It takes a standard action to ready an action, so the spellfire wielder won't be doing much else if they want to absorb a spell. And no, a spellfire wielder can't cast spells upon himself and absorb them. His allies can, however.
sparkster4242 06-05-07, 01:05 AM	as far as i recall, the only thing preventing a character with Spellfire Wielder from absorbing his own spells is the number of actions he has available in a round. readying an action takes up his standard action, so most spells arent going to work, but there are ways to make it possible. he could ready to absorb (standard action), then cast a spell at himself as a free, swift, or immediate action (Quicken Spell, Featherfall, etc...). he could use a spell or magic item to grant him an extra action in a round (see the belts in the Magic Item Compendium), he may even be able to use the Delay Spell metamagic feat to allow him to cast a spell one round, and absorb the next.
Morray 06-07-07, 01:30 PM	The player makes a good argument however in being allowed to absorb his own spells. They are not in combat. So why can't the spell carry over in 'time' to allow him to ready it, then cast the spell. The targeting I understand, however he's wanting others to cast some spells upon him that are not usually targeted to a person, but things. Like Erase. Would spells like purify water count? It is a targeted spell so again, I see his point. But looking for how to explain it should I not allow this.
IllyannaFarseer 06-09-07, 05:35 PM	I'd say no, as he wouldn't be the target of those spells. Basically spellfire was designed to give some people the abilities of the spellfire weilder in the book "Spellfire" and she only absorbed energy that was directed at her. So as was said, if the weilder readied an action to absorb a spell, and the wizard casts acid arrow, then the weilder absorbs it. If the wizard instead casts fireball, as its not targeted at the weilder it can't be absorbed (they give the example of rod of cancellation). So the weilder can't cast darkness on themselves and then next round absorb it..unless they have a feat/item that allowed them to cast it as a free/immediate/swift action after preparing a standard action to absorb it. Also if thier buddy casts purify water on a tub of water/pond etc, then the weilder isn't being targetted and can't absorb it, and you can't cast it on someone so, I'd say that's out as well. If the weilder wants to pump up, then he'll have to have his friends cast targetted spells at him that he can then absorb. (or use a wand, scrolls, items as long as they target him) That's my take on it anyway.