Tome & Blood Mindbender [Archive] - Wizards Community

Tome & Blood Mindbender [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Raynx
03-25-07, 08:47 PM Firstly, I would like to point out that I do not know where this thread should go. I think I might be in the wrong forum, but this is the closest thing I could find.
I am going to run a campaign in 3.0 soon, and 3.5 books are banned from it.
For this, I think I'll make an exception:
Take out Ye Olde' Tome & Blood and turn to page 64.
Specifically, look at the 9th level class feature "Mass Beguile" and read it.
It says "...Once per day, he can use his beguile ability (see above) against a number of appropriate targets whose combined Hit Dice do exceed 40..."
Am I reading this wrong, perhaps? Again, it says "DO exceed 40," meaning that the Tome & Blood Mindbender can effectively charm ALL creatures within 100 ft of him.
I'm certain its a typo, for two reasons:
1) Later in the entry it says, "...If more potential targets exist than the mindbender can affect, he chooses them one at a time until he exceeds the Hit Die limit." This suggests that a limit exists (most likely 40) and that the "do" is supposed to say "do not".
2) That's just silly.
I'm aware that the mindbender has been reprinted and updated in Complete Arcane, but I've left my copy with someone. Could someone check and see, to be sure, that this is just a typo?
Maybe some errata exists that addresses this.
Marcus Majarra
03-26-07, 04:22 AM There's no official errata for the Tome and Blood. The 3.5 Mindbender won't help you either, as it no longer boasts any kind of mass charm effect. My guess is that what you read was a typo and just assume that the combined hit dice limit for Mass Beguile is 40.
Raynx
03-26-07, 12:00 PM Thank you for the info. Or rather lack thereof. I'll just advise my players about the typo...

Perhaps you could also check out the other Tome & Blood question I posted, about Improved Familiars.

Anyway, thanks again!

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Raynx 03-25-07, 08:47 PM	Firstly, I would like to point out that I do not know where this thread should go. I think I might be in the wrong forum, but this is the closest thing I could find. I am going to run a campaign in 3.0 soon, and 3.5 books are banned from it. For this, I think I'll make an exception: Take out Ye Olde' Tome & Blood and turn to page 64. Specifically, look at the 9th level class feature "Mass Beguile" and read it. It says "...Once per day, he can use his beguile ability (see above) against a number of appropriate targets whose combined Hit Dice do exceed 40..." Am I reading this wrong, perhaps? Again, it says "DO exceed 40," meaning that the Tome & Blood Mindbender can effectively charm ALL creatures within 100 ft of him. I'm certain its a typo, for two reasons: 1) Later in the entry it says, "...If more potential targets exist than the mindbender can affect, he chooses them one at a time until he exceeds the Hit Die limit." This suggests that a limit exists (most likely 40) and that the "do" is supposed to say "do not". 2) That's just silly. I'm aware that the mindbender has been reprinted and updated in Complete Arcane, but I've left my copy with someone. Could someone check and see, to be sure, that this is just a typo? Maybe some errata exists that addresses this.
Marcus Majarra 03-26-07, 04:22 AM	There's no official errata for the Tome and Blood. The 3.5 Mindbender won't help you either, as it no longer boasts any kind of mass charm effect. My guess is that what you read was a typo and just assume that the combined hit dice limit for Mass Beguile is 40.
Raynx 03-26-07, 12:00 PM	Thank you for the info. Or rather lack thereof. I'll just advise my players about the typo... Perhaps you could also check out the other Tome & Blood question I posted, about Improved Familiars. Anyway, thanks again!