Visage of the Deity and Neutral clerics [Archive] - Wizards Community

Visage of the Deity and Neutral clerics [Archive] - Wizards Community

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tos_shai_hulud
04-24-08, 09:18 PM When a True Neutral cleric of a deity like Obad-Hai casts the spell Visage of the Deity, does he choose whether he wishes to cast the good version or evil version when he casts it, or must he cast only the version that coincides with his turning/rebuking ability? The cleric entry says that a cleric is only prohibited from casting spells that oppose their alignment, and a neutral cleric of Obad-Hai doesn't seem to have any opposing alignment restrictions, so it seems that he might be able to cast either, but I just wanted to make sure.
Andrew
04-25-08, 04:59 AM What should not work is trying to claim both the fiendish and celestial qualities at the same time.

As for RAW, the spells seem to have no effect if cast by neutral clerics. They specify what happens when you're good and when you're evil.

Considering the spells key off of the alignment you have at the time, I don't think I like where that goes when creature subtypes for alignment allow a cleric to count as both good and evil at the same time.
Positronica
04-30-08, 11:23 PM You could always get the spell on a scroll and then make a DC 30 UMD check to emulate whatever alignment you needed to get the effect you want.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
tos_shai_hulud 04-24-08, 09:18 PM	When a True Neutral cleric of a deity like Obad-Hai casts the spell Visage of the Deity, does he choose whether he wishes to cast the good version or evil version when he casts it, or must he cast only the version that coincides with his turning/rebuking ability? The cleric entry says that a cleric is only prohibited from casting spells that oppose their alignment, and a neutral cleric of Obad-Hai doesn't seem to have any opposing alignment restrictions, so it seems that he might be able to cast either, but I just wanted to make sure.
Andrew 04-25-08, 04:59 AM	What should not work is trying to claim both the fiendish and celestial qualities at the same time. As for RAW, the spells seem to have no effect if cast by neutral clerics. They specify what happens when you're good and when you're evil. Considering the spells key off of the alignment you have at the time, I don't think I like where that goes when creature subtypes for alignment allow a cleric to count as both good and evil at the same time.
Positronica 04-30-08, 11:23 PM	You could always get the spell on a scroll and then make a DC 30 UMD check to emulate whatever alignment you needed to get the effect you want.