Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Anya 07-30-07, 08:15 AM	In the campaign I run, I've had a race of elves that the PCs have been encountering for a while. They're starting new characters, 5th level, and one person really wants to play one. No major objection; but I've never figured out their LA, really, I just treated then as +1 for CR. This is what they get: con +2, wis -2, int+2, appearance (we use this stat) +2, chr+2. Elf qualities. Dr/cold iron 1-4 2 5-8 4 9-12 6 13+ 8 Gaze: range 30', cause fear, DC 10+ 1/2 lvl+chr mod Charm Monster 1/day DC DC 10+ 1/2 lvl+app mod immune fear Natural armor +3 SR: 11+HD 2-4 LA? Any suggestions?
runestar 07-30-07, 08:27 AM	Stronger than drow, roughly LA+3, IMO.
bobothechimp 07-30-07, 09:37 AM	I agree with +3.
Marcus Majarra 07-30-07, 01:07 PM	I would go with +4. This is almost as strong as your basic fey.
bobothechimp 07-30-07, 02:11 PM	I would hesitate to give it +4, because there is no way this thing is as powerful as a Pixie.
olshanski_home 07-30-07, 03:11 PM	Its a bit wonky, since at lower levels that "charm monster" is a godsend. At higher levels, its no biggie. The 30' fear gaze attack is also unbelievably powerful at low levels... with a sufficiently high charisma, roughly half of your level-appropriate brawler bad guys will simply give up and run away. The SR, DR, stat bumps, etcetera are all very useful and remain so. I'd say LA+4.
Arrowstorm 07-31-07, 03:35 PM	LA 3. Even if as stong as a pixie, pixie's are not worth the LA. Arrowstorm
queenfange 08-03-07, 02:16 PM	+4 in my view, but +3 probably wouldn't mess up balance too much either.
eamon 08-04-07, 02:12 AM	+3, just to make em at least somewhat attractive (they won't be very anyhow, for casters it just hurts, and for fighters the stats aren't really powerful) or maybe even only +2