Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Thrivol 05-22-07, 06:47 PM	Ever made a crazy bluff, and it worked? Post 'em here. 1. "Yes, I am from the future, trying to protect this country from certain doom. If you, sir, were to commit suicide right now, this country would not be destroyed." It worked. Natural 20s and 1s do wonders.
Lina_Inverse 05-22-07, 06:50 PM	It worked. Natural 20s and 1s do wonders. Natural 20s do not work for skill checks.
Mystic Lemur 05-22-07, 07:07 PM	It's still a natural twenty, and it's still a natural one. The NPC would have to have an epic modifier for it "not to work." And in case you meant that a nat20 on a skill check isn't an auto success, we know. And the OP never said otherwise. Go away. I had one once. A player in my game decided to bluff the NPC Paly (well, it was the truth, but I ruled it a bluff check) PC1:"If we kill the sacrifice before the evil cleric can, we will stop the ceremony!" Me: O_O ...Bluff check?!? PC1: 24 Me: *rolls* Paladin: Great Idea!
LastChronomancer 05-22-07, 07:58 PM	Heres a good one: DM: You are stuck inside a concrete prison cell with heavy metal bars. There seems to be no way out. Beguiler: I bluff the bars out of existence. DM & Players: ??? Whatever, you have to roll a natural 20 to defy laws of physics. Beguiler: (rolls dice) Um, those aren't iron bars, they're a figment of our imagination. (He got a natural 20! Gah!)
Astron the Wizard 05-22-07, 08:12 PM	Um.. I don't think there should be a one-in-twenty chance that you can make something "not exist"
balor64 05-22-07, 08:19 PM	4. I once played with someone who played a bard that kept bluffing everyone that he was a god. They believed him. He even bluffed the other PCs (yes, I know thats against the rules).
Mystic Lemur 05-22-07, 08:20 PM	Might have gone with it if they had said Will save to disbelieve, but never as a skill check. Ah, well. Whatever keeps the game running. I hope you learned a valuable lesson about keeping your foot out of your mouth, Chronomancer.
darkdragonk 05-22-07, 08:31 PM	I once had a super bluff epic bard who bluffed to enemys that they were dead. Also convinced a god that he was his father (check came to 147) bunch of feats, spells, and other random stuff I don't remember.
NerdNumber1 05-22-07, 09:21 PM	Whats the bluff DC to make the DM think Pun-Pun is an acceptable cohort?
Araxiss 05-22-07, 11:10 PM	I had my halfling rouge convince a camp/town full of people that the half-orc barbarian in our party was really a noble in disguise. The barbarian had no idea what was going but was happy with everyone suddenly treating him better. Tho he finally figured it out when my rouge started bowing to him and saying "My leige."
IrishRover 05-24-07, 12:27 AM	Well, one time long ago, we were on a pirate isle--a big one. after various inuendos and negotiations, things weren't going all that well with our attemtp to take over the band without fighting. I finally convinced them that there was better loot to be had by raiding the treasury in a cityl..many miles inland--but my ship could sail on land. They bought it--with some magical help, including some illusions. That got us the leadership all in one place...and the rest was easy.
Pangeon 05-24-07, 12:38 AM	In a campaign a while ago, I hardcore bluffed a (beat by well over twenty) Gnome NPC into following me (alone) into the Kobold keep to "go kill Kobolds." And that's what would've happened, too.... if the leader of the keep wasn't a powerful necromancer my LE Grey Elf Deathwalker wanted to trade with. And that's where my famous line in that campaign came in... Me: "Hey, 'the bluff is way out there, almost too incredible to consider,' only gives a +20 to Sense motive. I could've told him 'hey, if I put my p**** in your butt, you'll get magical powers,' and he would've believed me!"
StormKnight 05-24-07, 11:31 AM	"Yes, I am from the future, trying to protect this country from certain doom. If you, sir, were to commit suicide right now, this country would not be destroyed." And perfectly reasonable answers include: A) "Ok, but I'm not about to commit suicide, how else can I keep this terrible fate from happening?" B) "Wow, you really believe that. Maybe we should get you to a wizard, because I'm thinking you must be under a memory altering spell." PC1:"If we kill the sacrifice before the evil cleric can, we will stop the ceremony!" Paladin: "True, but if we kill the cleric we also stop the ceremony. Let's kill the cleric." Bluff ain't mind control people.
Warforged Goblin 05-24-07, 11:53 AM	"Look at the size of its teeth, it has to be evil! Go smite it. No, no, no... I've got it on good word that T-Rexes are inherently evil. I mean, it ate those farmers, right? Now get to smiting boss."
TimelordSimone 05-24-07, 05:27 PM	I bluffed some prison guards into believing I was a high priest of Corellan Larethian, and I also convinced them to release a vampire prisoner into my care. As to why I wanted the vampire... Complicated.
DraconsNighthawk 05-24-07, 05:42 PM	We just started a new campagin. The wizard/cleric is a follow of Velsharoon, and wants to keep his relgion secret from the other memembers. However he had to heal a villager, and thus envoked the name of his god. The other players (A CG Paladin of Freedom of Corellon Larethian (Half-elf,Half-orc) and the monk very HAPPLIY rolled their know. Relgion. Both 1s. Cleric goes on to say that his god is a good god. Both players fail their sense motive. Now both LG and CG characters truly belive that Velsharoon is a NG deity of some sorts. The player of the cleric gets lucky, whenever he mentions his god's name, and the other person gets a chance to know the god with a know. rel, always rolls a 1 or 2.
Sotha_syl 06-02-07, 03:08 PM	Wow, I love all of these stories in which bluff becomes more powerful than a suggestion or a dominate spell. Like someone said, bluff is not mind control. A lie will not convince someone to cut their own throat, but some amazing amount of logic might. Either way, if a man does not desire to commit suicide, almost no amount of lying and convincing will make him do so, unless he is depressed already or something. I once had someone brag to me that they "bluffed an entire village into commiting suicide" I now do not game with that person. And by the way, all of these people are implying that they think everyone in the world has a 1/20 chance of defy all logic and accomplishing something idiotically impossible with every skill check. Natural 20 does not mean automatic succes, and the logic that the "commoner would have had to roll a really really high sense modifier" is awful. That commoner doesn't even get a sense motive, because that bluff doesn't even follow the bluff rules. Player's Handbook, Chapter 4: Skills. 'nuff said.
coldshiftdown 06-10-07, 07:31 AM	i had a 6th rogue before with an 18 charisma and the pursuasive feat. the natural 20 provided me with a 35 buff check. the guard, who rolled a two, totaly believed there was a Astral Deva flying on a Gargantuan Gold dragon was fighting a pit Fiend on a Gragantuan Red. when he turned to look, i sneak attacked, and killed him. only CE i ever played. :evillaugh
Sneak_Attack 06-20-07, 09:32 AM	One of my players were playing an CE Ninja, and suddenly felt like killing the local smith (half-orc), and after that, cutting off his balls and putting them in the smith's pockets (the SMITHs balls). And so the party completed their quest and so on, and returned to the mayor for the revard. She took them to the smith and the Ninja was like "Oh f**k, I killed him!" The whole party looked suspisiosly at him (they had a coke-brake while he killed the Smith). Then the party's bard wanted to save them, and started his bluff. "During my studies in the Orchish university in Neverwinther, I learned about Orcs and their rituals. The 'Oh f**k, I smashed a bug'-ritual ends like this (points to the floor). Look he cutted his balls of" And then I (DM) thought: "Oh yeah, very realistic." *Smiles behind screen* Then I told him to roll bluff. And he did. 20 And he had a nice bluff modifier too. So I could not do anything else than make the mayor believe it.
Knifechimp 06-27-07, 04:56 AM	Upon sneaking into the royal palace and getting caught by a guard: I'm not trying to assassinate the king, i'm a custard salesman. He ordered 400kg of custard which is under this blanket (points to 3 adventurers hiding in his cart under a blanket). Surprisingly enough, this worked!
Bob Loblaw 06-27-07, 11:31 AM	We've had a few fun ones. My two favorites are: 1) I was running a low level adventure and the party was going up against a tiefling cleric and his companions. Most of the party was held. The only enemy left was the cleric. The party monk had made his save but decided to bluff that it worked. He rolled poorly. His total result was a 3. The cleric comes over to coup de grace and rolls his Sense Motive. The result was a 2. The monk says: "I'm held, wink, wink." Then he put the cleric in a headlock with a critical hit and killed him. The party didn't even realize that this was the big bad. 2) We were playing in an evil campaign set in Ravenloft. We were all about 12th level or so. Our fallen paladin/blackgaurd died and we needed him back for some revenge mission we were on. We stripped him of all his gear and brought him to the temple of Pelor. We tell Miracle Max (our name for him, not the DM's) that we need him back. The rogue mentions that we have no money but this is a noble cause. His wife is... crippled. His children are on the brink of starvation (there was more, but I don't remember it all). The rogue rolled very high. The priest, not so well. We managed to get a raise dead for free.
Gentlemanic 06-27-07, 05:00 PM	I think I once use the bardic spell glibness to bluff to the king that I was a demi god, and that I was sent down to relief him of his duties so he could take a vacation. The king could sure use a vacation. Ah, we had two great weeks before the old bastard returned from his villa and found the stacks of paperwork that I didn't get around at doing.
Cariyaga 06-27-07, 06:09 PM	You should have burned them. He never would have known. At least, not till you were gone.
CaptainPicard 06-27-07, 06:39 PM	A Spellscale Sorcerer in one of my games once bluffed this NPC Drow Rogue into undressing. He told her than a magical concealment spell he was casting would only effect her body, and not anything she was wearing. He reassured her when she was obviously reluctant by saying "it's not like anyone will be able to see you anyway". I really didn't want him rolling that check, but despite how stupid and immature it is, it's actually not completely unbelievable for someone with no magical experience whatsoever. Oh well, at least it was an NPC.