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orcslayer 11-24-04, 08:45 PM	Hi yall, all over these boards people are DnD isnt realistic. Ive decided we should make a list of it. 1. Turn based combat.
Felonious Monk 11-24-04, 08:53 PM	2. Dungeons 3. Dragons We know it isn't realistic. Otherwise we'd be lurking on the Rolemaster boards (and possibly not even then).
sambudak 11-24-04, 09:06 PM	4.) People don't run screaming when they see PCs walking around armed to the teeth. 5.) You can die, but it can be temporary.
Kweaper 11-24-04, 09:07 PM	6. Any if not all of the Monster & Characters that are in DnD (not including humans) Along with magic\spell casting. 7. Everything about the game. I think we are forgetting the real concept of a FANTASY GAME, It's fake,fiction,made up... That is why it is called Fantasy,
Wildonion 11-24-04, 09:12 PM	8. An all powerful being controls your life, wait........
orcslayer 11-24-04, 09:16 PM	6. Any if not all of the Monster & Characters that are in DnD (not including humans) Along with magic\spell casting. 7. Everything about the game. I think we are forgetting the real concept of a FANTASY GAME, It's fake,fiction,made up... That is why it is called Fantasy, I know this. I made this thread because people are always saying things are unrealistic. I just think we need a list of them.
sambudak 11-24-04, 09:25 PM	9.) Fat sweaty smelly guys can get the elven babe to do naughty things. 10.) Murder is pretty much okay, as long as you have a sound reason and it fits your ALIGNMENT. 11.) You can talk to dead people and animals and trees and bushes....
Sucineri 11-24-04, 09:31 PM	11.) You can talk to dead people and animals and trees and bushes.... You can do that in real life..you just can't talk WITH dead people, animals, trees, and bushes. :)
sambudak 11-24-04, 09:50 PM	You can do that in real life..you just can't talk WITH dead people, animals, trees, and bushes. :) Well said sir! 12.) Killing folk and taking their stuff is a respected profession. 13.) You can be a edited elf babe that used to be a gnome and before that a housecat.
sambudak 11-24-04, 09:51 PM	This should really be a thousand and one-- we'll hit 101 before midnight.
The_Dark_One 11-24-04, 10:12 PM	14: The existance of the afterlife is an established FACT. Not only that; if you're powerful enough, you can vacation there. :D
Hayabusa 11-24-04, 11:14 PM	15: The economy is not overburdened or in anyway harmed by the adventurers bringing back several gold coins from a dragon's hoard.
Kweaper 11-24-04, 11:29 PM	I know this. I made this thread because people are always saying things are unrealistic. I just think we need a list of them. but why? I know for fun and all but i play games to excape reality (not to mention they are just amusing and entertaining), i don't want to be reminded of how unrealistic things are. I'm sorry i just don't see the point of this thread. :uh-huh:
Sucineri 11-25-04, 12:13 AM	I could say that the Turn-Based Combat excuse is stupid as being unrealistic because in fact it isn't. Turn-Based is only so that everyone can do stuff..in the game world itself it all happens at the same time..people are moving back and forth, attacking, moving while casting, etc. Otherwise only the loudest person at the game table would be able to fight anything if it wasn't based on turns.
Asmodeous 11-25-04, 12:22 AM	16. There are no lawyers classes or PrC's in the game. 17. There is no g.s.t or v.a.t inclusive prices in any of the hand books. 18. Adventurers loot is never taxed. 19. you can ride a horse at full speed thru town and not get a ticket. 20. There is no such thing as divorce in the game.
green_yawgmoth 11-25-04, 01:38 AM	21. People with the ability to drop the arcane equivalent of a tactical nuclear warhead upsets no one. 22. People who can speak directly to gods are not worshipped as gods themselves. 23. People who can turn an entire metropolis in rubble in 30 seconds and have hair trigger fuses on their tempers are not considered dangerous in any way. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/yawgmoth/kittyjig.gif
Stuntman 11-25-04, 02:33 AM	1. Turn based combat. I guess this makes practically every single board or table top game unrealistic. I know of no table top or board game that isn't turn based.
xmcknight 11-25-04, 05:53 AM	24. Killing something just because it is from a certain race is perfectly ok. 25. No fast food. 26. Bows can be strung all the time. 27. Chainmail Bikini can actually protect you (if enchanted with the proper spells) 28. You can raise the dead. 29. A high level fighter can have literally 30-40 arrows sticking out of hime and still move and fight at 100% or close to it. 30. Dragons are much more intellegent than the ones I have met personally
Mister Mayhem 11-25-04, 07:34 AM	0. (Given its the most fundemental) It would be pretty pointless if it was.
Lord_Anthrax 11-25-04, 08:24 AM	31)One high-level adventurer's equipment is worth more money than the GNP of a small kingdom. 32)Various sentient races seem to have nothing better to do with their lives than sit in moldy-walled underground ruins guarding chests of gold, gems and assorted other goods.
orcslayer 11-25-04, 09:22 AM	but why? I know for fun and all but i play games to excape reality (not to mention they are just amusing and entertaining), i don't want to be reminded of how unrealistic things are. I'm sorry i just don't see the point of this thread. :uh-huh: Because all over these boards people are always saying how unrealistic everything is. I think we should have a list of it.
Arquinsiel 11-25-04, 11:52 AM	I could say that the Turn-Based Combat excuse is stupid as being unrealistic because in fact it isn't. Turn-Based is only so that everyone can do stuff..in the game world itself it all happens at the same time..people are moving back and forth, attacking, moving while casting, etc. Otherwise only the loudest person at the game table would be able to fight anything if it wasn't based on turns. Actually having been fencing for several years combat can be regarded as a turn-based thing. Especially in the one-on-one combats frequent in d&d. One person attacks, the other defends. Then the first either presses the attack or withdraws to defend against the counter-attack and so on.
Sucineri 11-25-04, 11:59 AM	31)One high-level adventurer's equipment is worth more money than the GNP of a small kingdom. Think Bill Gates..and he isn't even a high level adventurer..he is just good at getting everyone else to do the work for him. Yet he has more money than the GNP than most second-world countries (I don't know what a second-world country is..I know there is third-world..but they are TOO poor, so went for second-world instead. :)).
Bacon and Eggs 11-25-04, 12:17 PM	33. Appearence is almost irrelevent, where as in the real world appearance dictates a great deal.
EvilDuck 11-25-04, 12:56 PM	34. The ruling people of the world seem to do nothing in response to crisises. Oh, wait...
sambudak 11-25-04, 01:18 PM	35.) Not nearly enough edited 36.) Waterdeep. 37.) There ain't no Christmas or peanut butter.
Sucineri 11-25-04, 03:00 PM	sambudak..peanut butter wasn't invented til only a century or so ago, so it makes complete sense that they wouldn't have it in D&D, heh
sambudak 11-25-04, 03:58 PM	sucineri, that is not an excuse. Peanut butter shoulda been added in 3.5. 36.) Zombies do not eat people, and everyone knows they do. 37.) No hall monitors. 38.) No warning labels on anything.
Gnomish Zombie 11-25-04, 06:03 PM	39) Magic users are accepted parts of most societies who are walking around with abilities to make stone (stone wall), food (create food and water, or plant growth every year), and other products at a low low cost that would seriously mess up the economy and either they won't, don't (even though it would make them stiking rich), or the economy doesn't feel a thing. 40) Mind flayers are regarded as stronger than zombies though by logic the later is higher in the (brain) food chain. Larry and gang: Uggghhugghhhh Mind Flayer: Hold pitiful humans! (mind blast) Larry and gang: (keeps advancing) uggghhhuggghhhh Mind Flayer: Meh, I'll eat your brains (CHOMPS!) Larry and gang: (Keeps advancing, swarms and grapple Mindflayer) Mind Flayer: What is this rotten... Wait! you guys aren't drooling barbarians! Larry and gang: BRAINS! (eats squid-brain)
Gnomish Zombie 11-25-04, 06:15 PM	41) Sneak attack can be quite weird at time, with sizes and all. Try this: Monk1/rogue5/Assassin5. Polymorphed into a bunny. Now unarmed strike the unexpecting fellows with a death attack and a stunning blow... The only problem is reaching vital spots... (no problem for sitting ennemies) EDIT: More seriously, try a halfling with a dagger vs a colossal Great Wyrm. That dagger isn't long enough to get throught the skin and to the vitals without the whole halfling following it in the hole. 42) Thrown gerbil fighter. Based on the D&D principle that if someone puts down his guard, it leaves an oppening for you to hit him (AoO) and his buddy with a cleave. Get a fighter with Great cleave and combat reflexes, a commoner with a bag of gerbils, and a BBEG. Commoner throws gerbils next to fighter, who gets AoO from movement through threatened areas. Cleaves on BBEG. 43) Undeads with minds are immune to mind-affecting spells. Even if they don't specifically affect the brain or something. And I can't play a zombie.
Kaya Kenobi 11-25-04, 06:51 PM	44.) Somehow a bag of rats with a whirlwind and great cleave attack equals a million attacks in 6 seconds... NOT! 45.) The fact that spells, planes, and other things isn't realistic.. Let's go to realism: The weapons and armor represent real weapons and armor.. Not the magical ones of course, since that's not realistic.
Ramses III 11-26-04, 01:07 AM	46. PCs never have to go to the bathroom at inopportune moments. 47. Dragons are often the wealthiest creatures in any area, have lifespans of thousands of years, are highly intelligent, and love treasure and money -- yet they don't form banks, guilds, corporations, or other organizations to amass the ridiculous amounts of wealth that they could glean considering their longevity. 48. Gnomes that don't wear pointy red hats and loiter on your front lawn making it look all tacky.
Sucineri 11-26-04, 02:25 AM	47..blah blah lots of stuff Makes perfect sense..they are insane for treasure..and if they tried to make groups to protect the money, it would escalate into a huge fight with one dragon being left alive and inheritting all the combined stuff. Dragons live so long because they don't have anything really but other dragons to worry about..and since a dragon can kill another dragon, a dragon wouldn't wanna try to kill another dragon for the sake of possibly being killed itself by said dragon. Therefor, they need to stay away from eachother. :)
Findail 11-26-04, 07:53 AM	49. The difference between a Light Crossbow and a Heavy Crossbow is that the Heavy requires a system of pulleys to pull the string back, and this gives it a slower rate of fire. ...However, if you attach a magazine to one, it becomes a "Heavy Repeating Crossbow" which can be cocked with a lever.
sambudak 11-26-04, 05:16 PM	50.) You don't need a license for any kind of weapon or power, and frankly, that just ain't right. It would also be a good way to extort money from paladins. 51.) Paladins. Come on, really, do you think anyone could keep up that kinda niceness forEVER? 52.) Screaming mushrooms. 53.) Iron rations. Okay here, who can eat iron? 54.) You can buy poison off the shelf, but try to find cigarettes.
Kaya Kenobi 11-27-04, 10:13 AM	51.) Paladins. Come on, really, do you think anyone could keep up that kinda niceness forEVER? 53.) Iron rations. Okay here, who can eat iron? 54.) You can buy poison off the shelf, but try to find cigarettes. 51 - WizO_Catobepas: Let's refrain on the discussion of real life political figures. Thanks. 53 - The military's MREs are a form of iron rations. 54 - I can buy poison off the shelves (bleach and ammonia combined in a super soaker makes for a very powerful poison)
sambudak 11-27-04, 04:46 PM	51 - 53 - The military's MREs are a form of iron rations. 54 - I can buy poison off the shelves (bleach and ammonia combined in a super soaker makes for a very powerful poison) MRE's are not made 'o iron. The type I used to get tasted way better than iron. Er... okay... a little better. Those bleach and ammonia things are components of a complete poison. And anyway since when did chemistry get involved in D&D?
DrMorganes 11-27-04, 07:46 PM	Adventurers loot is never taxed. Not in YOUR games, perhaps... The look on that party's face when they returned to town with half a dragon's trove in tow was priceless! Iron rations. Okay here, who can eat iron? Though obviously made in jest, I thought y'all might find some info on iron rations (http://www.gwpda.org/memoir/ration.html) interesting.
twad 11-27-04, 08:57 PM	55- if you have improved evasion and are kinda lucky with your dices, even trapped at the corner of a room, a rogue *can* avoid 36 fireballs and dont get any damage.
Kaya Kenobi 11-27-04, 09:18 PM	51 - WizO_Catobepas: Let's refrain on the discussion of real life political figures. Thanks. 53 - The military's MREs are a form of iron rations. 54 - I can buy poison off the shelves (bleach and ammonia combined in a super soaker makes for a very powerful poison) Funny, Cato deletes something that doesn't harm anything and is the truth and completely factual (not opinion), and doesn't delete a lethal combination of household products. Priceless! And that info on iron rations on that site was previous MREs, though it's even less flavorful. ;)
Wil_Hyral 11-27-04, 11:19 PM	Funny, Cato deletes something that doesn't harm anything and is the truth and completely factual (not opinion), and doesn't delete a lethal combination of household products. Even better is that the original content is now in someone else's quote.
EvilDuck 11-28-04, 02:32 AM	55. A colossal fire-breathing dragon gets taken down by a guy with a spiked chain, the most efficient weapon ever. 56. The world hasn't descended into anarchy despite the presence of lots of extremely powerful buildings who are nigh-omnipotent among the commoners of the world...
Escef 11-28-04, 02:21 PM	49. The difference between a Light Crossbow and a Heavy Crossbow is that the Heavy requires a system of pulleys to pull the string back, and this gives it a slower rate of fire. ...However, if you attach a magazine to one, it becomes a "Heavy Repeating Crossbow" which can be cocked with a lever. And pulling that lever to **** the S.O.B. would be as slow. Or did you fail to notice that the repeating crossbow was a light crossbow? And that pulling the lever back was the same motion as drawing the string back, with the added convienience of it automatically dropping a quarrel into firing positioin? Simply adding the magazine assembly does little for the crossbows that require pulleys and winches to ****. So, in this case it isn't the game that's unrealistic, it's your extrapolation. How about this for a substitute. 49. Groups of armed vagrents with no career skills are welcomed in most communities.
Darklord Greywolff 11-28-04, 02:31 PM	Wait.... are saying its not real.......NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I've wasted my life making a potion of lichdom for nothing. hehehe just kidding :D
verdynian 11-29-04, 03:52 PM	57: A person can fall 200 feet or 200,000 feet and there will be no increase in the damage sustained.
Demon Lightfoot 11-29-04, 06:15 PM	51.) Paladins. Come on, really, do you think anyone could keep up that kinda niceness forEVER? Who sez Paladins have to be "nice"? Those bleach and ammonia things are components of a complete poison. And anyway since when did chemistry get involved in D&D? IRL, you can still buy rat poison off the shelf, IIRC, and it should work quite nicely on humans. Bleach and ammonia are pretty poisonous in and of themslelves; just drinking a tumbler of either would reveal that. Also, just because it's D&D doesn't mean that chemistry doesn't exist or work. Unless, of course, you assume that everything in your game world that depends upon chemical reactions, from thinking to the burning of flammables to the digestion of food to spiderwebs & catepillar silk, rusting metals or rotting organics, alchoholic beverages, drugs and poisons is due to magic. That might be an interesting homebrew to play in for about a half an hour. Maybe.
Raziel-X 11-29-04, 06:47 PM	Hi yall, all over these boards people are DnD isnt realistic. Ive decided we should make a list of it. 1. Turn based combat. well i just wanted to add something, im not saying DND is real or anything, but its not technically turn based combat, people have an order in witch they react, basically after everyone has taken their action in combat, 1 round has gone by. So everything kinda happens within 6 seconds. Then round 2
Raziel-X 11-29-04, 06:49 PM	Who sez Paladins have to be "nice"? IRL, you can still buy rat poison off the shelf, IIRC, and it should work quite nicely on humans. Bleach and ammonia are pretty poisonous in and of themslelves; just drinking a tumbler of either would reveal that. Also, just because it's D&D doesn't mean that chemistry doesn't exist or work. Unless, of course, you assume that everything in your game world that depends upon chemical reactions, from thinking to the burning of flammables to the digestion of food to spiderwebs & catepillar silk, rusting metals or rotting organics, alchoholic beverages, drugs and poisons is due to magic. That might be an interesting homebrew to play in for about a half an hour. Maybe.lol, I agree ^^ :D
sambudak 11-29-04, 07:48 PM	Who sez Paladins have to be "nice"? IRL, you can still buy rat poison off the shelf, IIRC, and it should work quite nicely on humans. Bleach and ammonia are pretty poisonous in and of themslelves; just drinking a tumbler of either would reveal that. Also, just because it's D&D doesn't mean that chemistry doesn't exist or work. Unless, of course, you assume that everything in your game world that depends upon chemical reactions, from thinking to the burning of flammables to the digestion of food to spiderwebs & catepillar silk, rusting metals or rotting organics, alchoholic beverages, drugs and poisons is due to magic. That might be an interesting homebrew to play in for about a half an hour. Maybe. You taken chemistry lately? The knowledge possessed of even the most advanced technogeek in the D&D 'verse everything is magic or magical or divine or spiritual. I didn't see the periodic table in the PHB, or did I miss something? This homebrew is the standard game we all play. You're right about paladins not having to be nice. No one has to be nice, even here.
Kaya Kenobi 11-29-04, 08:06 PM	IRL, you can still buy rat poison off the shelf, IIRC, and it should work quite nicely on humans. Bleach and ammonia are pretty poisonous in and of themslelves; just drinking a tumbler of either would reveal that. hehe.. rat poison...
CzarGarrett 11-30-04, 08:26 AM	58. You can be eaten by a dragon. And then your friends can eat the dragon.
Kaya Kenobi 11-30-04, 11:28 AM	59. Wishing for your enemies to be turned into eggs and it happening.. ;)
Favored Enemy 11-30-04, 10:38 PM	60. Stabbing someone in the chest as hard as you can with a dagger, "take 4 damage," and having them shrug it off without a thought, "so what, I have 74 hit points."
RobTzu 12-01-04, 01:32 AM	61. With the amount of monsters, and undead armies tromping around anyone bothers to plant crops. 62. What exactly does a wizard use to make a longsword +5 that costs so many thousands of thousands of gp to produce? How can it take as much labour to gather ingredints for a longsword as build a castle sans magic.
jktrondarr 12-01-04, 03:41 AM	63. all humans sharing a common set of abilities, beliefs, and goals. 64. a common housecat has the same hit points than the average villager. 65. a common dog has more hitpoints than a 1st lvl wizard. 66. practicing genocide is encouraged as long as the race in question is evil, or mostly evil, or generally evil, or suspected of being evil, or is rumored to be evil, or there isn't a paladin around, or...
CuCulain42 12-01-04, 12:18 PM	(I don't know what a second-world country is..I know there is third-world..but they are TOO poor, so went for second-world instead. :)). FYI: A Second World country was one which fell under the influence of the Soviet Union, Warsaw Pact countries, China, N. Korea. Basically it's another term for "Communist Bloc." Anyhoo, 67. Elaborate underground structures that with modern engineering and equipment would be nearly impossible.
Favored Enemy 12-03-04, 12:37 AM	68. Being freely gifted with the Improved Precise Shot feat when having a 3 dex. (3.5 rangers)
Norseman 12-03-04, 01:08 AM	69. It's easier to shoot a guy who's charging across your line of sight than it is to shoot a guy who's just standing there doing nothing.