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a brithday present [Archive] - Wizards Community

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eoin_morgan
04-27-08, 03:52 PM recently, one of my freinds got me the d20 modern book for my birthday. he tehn proceeds to read the book, ask me questions about making a character, and otherwise ruin the fun.

Do you think it is strange that he read it? i mean, I would not buy someone a game and then play it on my xbox before giving it to someone...
UndeadMouse
04-27-08, 04:11 PM He might want to be making sure you understand the contents because he wants to play with you.
If I bought a game for someone because I wanted to play it with them I would make sure they knew how to play too.
Seeker95
04-27-08, 04:35 PM I would not buy someone a game and then play it on my xbox before giving it to someone...Why not? It's not the same as tasting a piece of cake before giving it to a friend. Nor is it like taking a car for a drive before giving it to your friend. The game or book does not have diminished value for having had someone else play it or read it.
key
04-28-08, 11:01 AM The game or book does not have diminished value for having had someone else play it or read it.
It usually does, assuming it's tangible (e.g. not a PDF). Who knows where it's been? Even charities ask for "new, unopened gifts".
Seeker95
04-28-08, 01:12 PM It usually does, assuming it's tangible (e.g. not a PDF). Who knows where it's been? Even charities ask for "new, unopened gifts".Assuming it is tangible, knowing where a book has been does not tangibly change its value. The words are still there. The ending is still the same. The pages are still in the same order.

That a charity asks for "new, unopened gifts" is a general request. But if you go to give them a book, they are not going to bat an eye. The person taking it from you at the charity is as likely to open it and read at least the inside flap contents. And it does not lose any tangible value in the process.

Reading a book does not lower its extrinsic value.
Etarnon
04-28-08, 02:12 PM I think they admire you as a DM.

I've had a few Players do this.

I buy, you run. Not a problem if it's a genre I sort of like.

Good luck.
key
04-28-08, 02:45 PM Reading a book does not lower its extrinsic value.
Seller A: "Brand new book for sale. Handling has been kept to a minimum. Only $20."

Seller B: "Many people have read this book. It's been lent to dozens of people. I was just reading it in the john. I never wash my hands. $20, only $20."

Potential Customer X: "Well, I'm just going to have to flip a coin."
Zombie_Babies
04-28-08, 03:15 PM Seller A: "Brand new book for sale. Handling has been kept to a minimum. Only $20."

Seller B: "Many people have read this book. It's been lent to dozens of people. I was just reading it in the john. I never wash my hands. $20, only $20."

Potential Customer X: "Well, I'm just going to have to flip a coin."

Reading a used book means that you're touching everyone that's touched that book before you. Always "glove up" whenever you peruse a pre-read book, newspaper, pamphlet, menu or similar object. A little latex (or leather) goes a long way to protecting you from the dirty, strange oils of the masses' hands. If you need the increased tactile pleasure of skin-to-paper contact, be careful to avoid papercuts and use an antibacterial lotion afterwards to ensure your safety.

You do have a point. We pay less for used books. No real reason to do so except that they are not new. But none of this makes this thread any less silly than it was from the start. Which is pretty damned silly.
Mock26
04-28-08, 03:34 PM Do you know for a fact that he read your copy of the book? Is it possible that he has his own copy of the book?
Etarnon
04-29-08, 03:20 AM Lol.

Seller C: "Many people have read this book. It's been lent to dozens of people. I was just reading it in the john. I never wash my hands. It's a copy of DUNE the RPG, the low number print run, now out of print for years, By Last Unicorn Games. Oh yeah and it smells like feces..but that could be washed off.

Customer: I'll give you 150$. When can you ship? I'll pay for overnight.

No lie, I've seen this.
key
04-29-08, 10:36 AM Yes, but that gentleman was into scat and thought he was buying DUNG.
Etarnon
04-30-08, 03:33 AM +1, okay that topped mine.
1 ton ghost
04-30-08, 03:15 PM Oh, man, that was funny as Hell...nice. :D
Brings new meaning to the phrase, "the Spice has mutated the Guild Navigators."
Actually, it just occured to me, the sandworms' feces is the spice milange...
wtsutton
05-02-08, 07:10 AM It usually does, assuming it's tangible (e.g. not a PDF). Who knows where it's been? Even charities ask for "new, unopened gifts".

So any book that is opened up and read at Barnes and Nobles or Borders should be moved to a "used" section and sold for cheaper?
key
05-05-08, 11:32 AM So any book that is opened up and read at Barnes and Nobles or Borders should be moved to a "used" section and sold for cheaper?
No. Position snipers to take out anyone who attempts to cop a skim. Rename the stores "Barnes and Nobles and Snipers and Dead You" & "A World Without Borders? Perhaps a Pipe Dream. A World Without You? We Can Make That Happen".
Toran_A_Sunder
05-05-08, 01:25 PM All this thread has really accomplished is making me feel that since I haven't been in a book store in like a couple days I need to go to one.

Just saying.

Oh, and to the OP, unless he was eating cheetos and got orange finger prints on every page of the book, quit complaining and enjoy the fact that a friend got you a gift.

Shoot if my friends bought me game books but didnt give them to me until they took them on vacation to Jamaica and read them front to back twice, I'd STILL be happy that I got a game book for free from a friend.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
eoin_morgan 04-27-08, 03:52 PM	recently, one of my freinds got me the d20 modern book for my birthday. he tehn proceeds to read the book, ask me questions about making a character, and otherwise ruin the fun. Do you think it is strange that he read it? i mean, I would not buy someone a game and then play it on my xbox before giving it to someone...
UndeadMouse 04-27-08, 04:11 PM	He might want to be making sure you understand the contents because he wants to play with you. If I bought a game for someone because I wanted to play it with them I would make sure they knew how to play too.
Seeker95 04-27-08, 04:35 PM	I would not buy someone a game and then play it on my xbox before giving it to someone...Why not? It's not the same as tasting a piece of cake before giving it to a friend. Nor is it like taking a car for a drive before giving it to your friend. The game or book does not have diminished value for having had someone else play it or read it.
key 04-28-08, 11:01 AM	The game or book does not have diminished value for having had someone else play it or read it. It usually does, assuming it's tangible (e.g. not a PDF). Who knows where it's been? Even charities ask for "new, unopened gifts".
Seeker95 04-28-08, 01:12 PM	It usually does, assuming it's tangible (e.g. not a PDF). Who knows where it's been? Even charities ask for "new, unopened gifts".Assuming it is tangible, knowing where a book has been does not tangibly change its value. The words are still there. The ending is still the same. The pages are still in the same order. That a charity asks for "new, unopened gifts" is a general request. But if you go to give them a book, they are not going to bat an eye. The person taking it from you at the charity is as likely to open it and read at least the inside flap contents. And it does not lose any tangible value in the process. Reading a book does not lower its extrinsic value.
Etarnon 04-28-08, 02:12 PM	I think they admire you as a DM. I've had a few Players do this. I buy, you run. Not a problem if it's a genre I sort of like. Good luck.
key 04-28-08, 02:45 PM	Reading a book does not lower its extrinsic value. Seller A: "Brand new book for sale. Handling has been kept to a minimum. Only $20." Seller B: "Many people have read this book. It's been lent to dozens of people. I was just reading it in the john. I never wash my hands. $20, only $20." Potential Customer X: "Well, I'm just going to have to flip a coin."
Zombie_Babies 04-28-08, 03:15 PM	Seller A: "Brand new book for sale. Handling has been kept to a minimum. Only $20." Seller B: "Many people have read this book. It's been lent to dozens of people. I was just reading it in the john. I never wash my hands. $20, only $20." Potential Customer X: "Well, I'm just going to have to flip a coin." Reading a used book means that you're touching everyone that's touched that book before you. Always "glove up" whenever you peruse a pre-read book, newspaper, pamphlet, menu or similar object. A little latex (or leather) goes a long way to protecting you from the dirty, strange oils of the masses' hands. If you need the increased tactile pleasure of skin-to-paper contact, be careful to avoid papercuts and use an antibacterial lotion afterwards to ensure your safety. You do have a point. We pay less for used books. No real reason to do so except that they are not new. But none of this makes this thread any less silly than it was from the start. Which is pretty damned silly.
Mock26 04-28-08, 03:34 PM	Do you know for a fact that he read your copy of the book? Is it possible that he has his own copy of the book?
Etarnon 04-29-08, 03:20 AM	Lol. Seller C: "Many people have read this book. It's been lent to dozens of people. I was just reading it in the john. I never wash my hands. It's a copy of DUNE the RPG, the low number print run, now out of print for years, By Last Unicorn Games. Oh yeah and it smells like feces..but that could be washed off. Customer: I'll give you 150$. When can you ship? I'll pay for overnight. No lie, I've seen this.
key 04-29-08, 10:36 AM	Yes, but that gentleman was into scat and thought he was buying DUNG.
Etarnon 04-30-08, 03:33 AM	+1, okay that topped mine.
1 ton ghost 04-30-08, 03:15 PM	Oh, man, that was funny as Hell...nice. :D Brings new meaning to the phrase, "the Spice has mutated the Guild Navigators." Actually, it just occured to me, the sandworms' feces is the spice milange...
wtsutton 05-02-08, 07:10 AM	It usually does, assuming it's tangible (e.g. not a PDF). Who knows where it's been? Even charities ask for "new, unopened gifts". So any book that is opened up and read at Barnes and Nobles or Borders should be moved to a "used" section and sold for cheaper?
key 05-05-08, 11:32 AM	So any book that is opened up and read at Barnes and Nobles or Borders should be moved to a "used" section and sold for cheaper? No. Position snipers to take out anyone who attempts to cop a skim. Rename the stores "Barnes and Nobles and Snipers and Dead You" & "A World Without Borders? Perhaps a Pipe Dream. A World Without You? We Can Make That Happen".
Toran_A_Sunder 05-05-08, 01:25 PM	All this thread has really accomplished is making me feel that since I haven't been in a book store in like a couple days I need to go to one. Just saying. Oh, and to the OP, unless he was eating cheetos and got orange finger prints on every page of the book, quit complaining and enjoy the fact that a friend got you a gift. Shoot if my friends bought me game books but didnt give them to me until they took them on vacation to Jamaica and read them front to back twice, I'd STILL be happy that I got a game book for free from a friend.