A question about half-dragons [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Talking_Sword

04-10-04, 12:39 PM
Hey everyone, this is my first time posting here, and I have a question about half-dragons. I have a human character who is on the Dragon Disciple prestige class path. If and when he does reach 10th level Dragon Disciple and becomes a half-dragon, does he lose the benefits of being a human, such as the one extra skill point per level? Also, concerning dragons and how long they live, is some of that longevity conferred upon the half-dragon? Thanks for the advice.
Seeker95

04-10-04, 01:45 PM
1. No. (edited because Ogre was right and I was wrong.)

2. Once the character gains the dragon type, s/he *is* a dragon. I would let the character's age progression slow to equal that of a dragon, but gain no backwards compatibility. The dragon is adult, and has the remaining years that an adult dragon would normally have for its color.

I would place the characters as "equivalent" to 150 years old (the middle of Adult Dragon) and that would leave the character somewhere around another 1000 years of natural lifespan.
Majic86

04-10-04, 03:18 PM
In the Council of Wyrms Adventure(2e,TSR copyright 1994) Book 1 page 29 it lists a chart (Table 7:Half Dragon Charateristics) with ages.

I found it works well with 1/2 human/Dragons but not well with say longer lived creatures like elves,

It says half-dragon base age 14 + 1d4

And

Race Maximum Middle/Old/Ven.
Half-Gold 300+5d10 150/200/300
Half-Silver 250+3d20 125/167/250
Half-Bronze 200+4d10 100/133/200

...but

I prefer using the base demi-human age, then taking the demihuman Middle/old/ven and add some to each one for good measure.
Ogre4Hire

04-10-04, 08:39 PM
A character that changes type or race due to class effects never lose their racial abilities. A half dragon/half human still has his bonus feat and skill points, so the Human Dragon Disciple would still gain the extra skill point per level after becoming 10th level as a DD and attaining the Dragon type.

Note that this is not true if the race/type change is from some other effect, such as a reincarnation spell or one of the Major Change rituals described in Savage Species.
Escef

04-11-04, 08:05 AM
Ogre is correct. Yes, the caster now has the dragon creature type, but loses none of its human benefits. That is how adding a template works. To say otherwise is like saying that a troll with the half-fiend template loses its regeneration ability because it is no longer a troll. (Coincidentally, never use a half-fiend troll, they are much more powerful than their CR would suggest.)
Ogre4Hire

04-11-04, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by Escef
(Coincidentally, never use a half-fiend troll, they are much more powerful than their CR would suggest.)

Yeah, just look at a Half-Troll/Half Ogre with one level of fighter. It's WAY more powerful than a troll.
feng the barbarian

04-12-04, 08:23 PM
no because half dragon is a template and the human is a base creature. so the spawn of a dragon and human would get some dragon powers and all of the humans abiltys
feng the barbarian

04-12-04, 08:23 PM
no because half dragon is a template and the human is a base creature. so the spawn of a dragon and human would get some dragon powers and all of the humans abiltys
feng the barbarian

04-12-04, 08:23 PM
no because half dragon is a template and the human is a base creature. so the spawn of a dragon and human would get some dragon powers and all of the humans abiltys