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Bsauey
10-13-05, 06:16 PM Are there any stats for Achilles or any of the other Greek heros?
Kuje31
10-13-05, 06:21 PM Are there any stats for Achilles or any of the other Greek heros?

Deities and Demigods both from 1e and 3e.... But this really should be asked on the main D&D boards and not the FR boards. :)
Silverpanther
10-14-05, 06:44 AM There are stats for achilles :confused:

are there also some for son-goku, vegeta, solid snake, liquid snake and alucard :)
Mad Mage
10-14-05, 01:16 PM Deities and Demigods both from 1e and 3e.... But this really should be asked on the main D&D boards and not the FR boards. :)

I don't remember the 3.0 D&D having Achilles stats. I know it had a block for Hercules, but not ol' Trojan war hero there.

Confirmed. Checked the Olympian pantheon section back to front. No Achilles stats.
Kuje31
10-14-05, 01:22 PM I don't remember the 3.0 D&D having Achilles stats. I know it had a block for Hercules, but not ol' Trojan war hero there.

Confirmed. Checked the Olympian pantheon section back to front. No Achilles stats.

Nod well he said the other heroes as well but I believe they are still in the 1e version. Course I'm still being lazy and not checking. :)
WizO_Lyoness
10-14-05, 03:38 PM I don't know the answer either, but someone on the DnD boards might.

This is not the place for this. These boards are specifically for forgotten realms. Any future questions of this nature should go directly to the DnD boards.

I'm going to move this one for you.

-Lyoness
WizO_Lyoness
10-14-05, 03:40 PM Heads up: A DnD boards wizo may move this again as a appropriate.
Verelor
10-14-05, 03:45 PM Dieties and Demigods (it's now outdated). Though I really advise against it, I think real-world mythologies tend to suck for gaming.
Bruunwald
10-14-05, 06:49 PM Dieties and Demigods (it's now outdated). Though I really advise against it, I think real-world mythologies tend to suck for gaming.

I have to disagree in ways that the gods themselves must smile at. They rock beyond all measure. Currently using Athena for a big gothic city and a cool paladin PC. Couldn't be happier. Two players also sick to death of the D&D pantheon, totally stoked when I said I was building a medieval setting with a bent toward a gothically-presented Athena. Put new juice in the game.

Also a fan of Sif and Thor.

The D&D pantheon... well, it's their site, so I won't say it. You know what? Yeah, I will. Shallow, trite, totally lacking in anything really deep or meaningful as mythology. Good for game mechanics, yes, but no moreso than any of the real gods upon whom they were based. Yes, I called them real. Must always remember, when this game started, there were no D&D gods, other than those of the monsters. We played real pantheons back in the day. You can't beat thousands of years of accumulated myth and symbolism.

Back on topic, Deities and Demigods does not have stats for Achilles. The more recent one has Hercules, but no other heroes. The original, 1st Edition has Perseus. It might have Achilles. My brain is trying to tell me it did. I can tell you tonight after I get home, but being 1st Edition, I don't know how much good it would do you.
Bsauey
10-14-05, 08:14 PM That's okay. I will just have to do a massive edition and stats change if you find the stats for him. Thanks.
Jshock_75
10-15-05, 10:27 AM He'd definitley be epic, probably a Barbarian. Maybe make him half-celestial without the wings.
Mr. Cheese
10-15-05, 01:34 PM found him. He's in the first edition deities and demigods, to the left of aphrodite. page 64, to be precise.
Bsauey
10-15-05, 04:03 PM Well i don't have access to the first edition books, so could you tell me a little of what it says in the entry, like his class and level, and maybe a little other stuff? Thanks
Galstaf, Sorcerer of Lite
10-15-05, 07:04 PM There was a Dragon magazine article (not sure of the exact issue number, but something from the first year or so after 3.0 was released) that included stats for a half-dozen or so heroes of the Trojan War, including Achilles.

I think.

It's a little foggy, but I'm about 80% sure it's what I'm thinking it was. Maybe someone with that Dragon CD-ROM archive knows?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Bsauey 10-13-05, 06:16 PM	Are there any stats for Achilles or any of the other Greek heros?
Kuje31 10-13-05, 06:21 PM	Are there any stats for Achilles or any of the other Greek heros? Deities and Demigods both from 1e and 3e.... But this really should be asked on the main D&D boards and not the FR boards. :)
Silverpanther 10-14-05, 06:44 AM	There are stats for achilles :confused: are there also some for son-goku, vegeta, solid snake, liquid snake and alucard :)
Mad Mage 10-14-05, 01:16 PM	Deities and Demigods both from 1e and 3e.... But this really should be asked on the main D&D boards and not the FR boards. :) I don't remember the 3.0 D&D having Achilles stats. I know it had a block for Hercules, but not ol' Trojan war hero there. Confirmed. Checked the Olympian pantheon section back to front. No Achilles stats.
Kuje31 10-14-05, 01:22 PM	I don't remember the 3.0 D&D having Achilles stats. I know it had a block for Hercules, but not ol' Trojan war hero there. Confirmed. Checked the Olympian pantheon section back to front. No Achilles stats. Nod well he said the other heroes as well but I believe they are still in the 1e version. Course I'm still being lazy and not checking. :)
WizO_Lyoness 10-14-05, 03:38 PM	I don't know the answer either, but someone on the DnD boards might. This is not the place for this. These boards are specifically for forgotten realms. Any future questions of this nature should go directly to the DnD boards. I'm going to move this one for you. -Lyoness
WizO_Lyoness 10-14-05, 03:40 PM	Heads up: A DnD boards wizo may move this again as a appropriate.
Verelor 10-14-05, 03:45 PM	Dieties and Demigods (it's now outdated). Though I really advise against it, I think real-world mythologies tend to suck for gaming.
Bruunwald 10-14-05, 06:49 PM	Dieties and Demigods (it's now outdated). Though I really advise against it, I think real-world mythologies tend to suck for gaming. I have to disagree in ways that the gods themselves must smile at. They rock beyond all measure. Currently using Athena for a big gothic city and a cool paladin PC. Couldn't be happier. Two players also sick to death of the D&D pantheon, totally stoked when I said I was building a medieval setting with a bent toward a gothically-presented Athena. Put new juice in the game. Also a fan of Sif and Thor. The D&D pantheon... well, it's their site, so I won't say it. You know what? Yeah, I will. Shallow, trite, totally lacking in anything really deep or meaningful as mythology. Good for game mechanics, yes, but no moreso than any of the real gods upon whom they were based. Yes, I called them real. Must always remember, when this game started, there were no D&D gods, other than those of the monsters. We played real pantheons back in the day. You can't beat thousands of years of accumulated myth and symbolism. Back on topic, Deities and Demigods does not have stats for Achilles. The more recent one has Hercules, but no other heroes. The original, 1st Edition has Perseus. It might have Achilles. My brain is trying to tell me it did. I can tell you tonight after I get home, but being 1st Edition, I don't know how much good it would do you.
Bsauey 10-14-05, 08:14 PM	That's okay. I will just have to do a massive edition and stats change if you find the stats for him. Thanks.
Jshock_75 10-15-05, 10:27 AM	He'd definitley be epic, probably a Barbarian. Maybe make him half-celestial without the wings.
Mr. Cheese 10-15-05, 01:34 PM	found him. He's in the first edition deities and demigods, to the left of aphrodite. page 64, to be precise.
Bsauey 10-15-05, 04:03 PM	Well i don't have access to the first edition books, so could you tell me a little of what it says in the entry, like his class and level, and maybe a little other stuff? Thanks
Galstaf, Sorcerer of Lite 10-15-05, 07:04 PM	There was a Dragon magazine article (not sure of the exact issue number, but something from the first year or so after 3.0 was released) that included stats for a half-dozen or so heroes of the Trojan War, including Achilles. I think. It's a little foggy, but I'm about 80% sure it's what I'm thinking it was. Maybe someone with that Dragon CD-ROM archive knows?