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Neely 04-06-05, 02:47 PM	A friend brought up an interesting subject this afternoon: Would asking the aid of a Green Dragon (or any other evil aligned dragon/creature) result in an act of evil even though it's for a non-evil cause like defeating the bad guys? Would this result in an alignment change of the party from good to evil and all the other consequences like loosing spells of the divine casters?
MrkGrismer 04-06-05, 02:55 PM	A Paladin would have difficulty with it, as Paladins cannot generally suffer evil to exist (and green dragons are born evil). Otherwise I would think it is only a real problem for exaulted characters. Of course, good characters should not suffer the creature to do evil while associating with said creature. Also, it bears repeating that very few single acts cause complete alignment shifts (perhaps slaughering an entire village and standing in the middle of the square, bathed in blood and laughing about it might)
Yaeri 04-06-05, 03:11 PM	Not as such no. If your party and the green dragon have a common goal wich is good I wouldn't see a problem. If however you know that by working together to complete the good thing, you'll also be giving the dragon aid with his evil things it'd be questionable. There's ofcourse no "by the book" answer for this. At least not that I know of :D
fairypuff 04-06-05, 03:18 PM	Why would it help you though if your being good and it is evil.
Seeker95 04-06-05, 03:25 PM	Getting bad guys to help you do good things is not an evil act.
Derren S. 04-06-05, 03:27 PM	Unless the evil gets more powerful in the process of helping you.
Phrennzy 04-06-05, 04:11 PM	For instance (to use another thread) if a spectre has begun killing everyone in a town and turning them into spectres, and they kill others and make more, ad infinitum, you could ask for the Green Dragons help to defeat them without risking any negative alignment penalties. Unless of course the dragon starts looting houses. Sneaky little creep - man, you can't trust a green dragon for nothing. I loaned one my car once, just to "Go grab some McDonald's" and he came back 3 hours later - the car had a big dent on the door, a huge stain from a spilled milkshake on the floor, and it smelled like Chlorine for WEEKS! Never again.
Seeker95 04-06-05, 04:39 PM	Unless the evil gets more powerful in the process of helping you.Even if he gets more powerful in the process of helping you, you still have not committed an evil act. How you respond to his growing more powerful is another matter entirely.
Neely 04-07-05, 02:17 AM	Those were all clear answers, thx all! Lol Phrennzy, at least he brought the car back ;)
Sarella Starshine 04-07-05, 06:49 AM	you may ask aid of an evil creature without risking loosing your 'good' flag, but that does not mean the evil creature has to help you. i mean, what's in it for the evil creature for him to risk his life to help you, the good guys fight what YOU percive to be evil? unless you pay that evil person enough for him to help you or show that this 'new' evil will threaten or harm that person personally, he can tell you guys to go to &*#$. now, if that evil creature does help you, but does evil acts helping you, and you dont lift your finger to tell him to stop, yes you can risk losing your 'good' status for willingly going along with evil.
Pippa 04-07-05, 03:02 PM	Since the green dragon mentionned above is supposed to be my evil aunty in the game we're presently playing, I 'd like to add something to this thread as well: If you could make her - in return for the villains' money and gemstones and other valuables - stick to killing/maiming/tasting/blackmailing/molesting the bad guys and leave the good ones out of it, this might actually be no act of evil at all (given she hoards the wealth and not spends it on mercenaries or something), and even a quite clever plan, getting rid of evil without risking good people's lives. Unless you like money and gemstones too much. Oh blast.