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Post/Author/DateTime Post
Luke247494
12-06-07, 07:26 PM Ok so i just got interested a few days ago and heard about 4th Edition so i want to know whether i should buy all of the 3.5 books and stuff and learn the 3.5 rules or wait 'till 4th Edition and save money but waste time :confused: :confused: :confused:
Seeker95
12-06-07, 08:20 PM How much money do you have? :devil:

Do you already have a gaming group inviting you to play? If yes, thenh at least pony up the money for e3.5 Player's Handbook so you can learn how to play your own character at times other than when you are in session.

Otherwise, go ahead and hold off. if you can. After all, six months is a long time to wait for something you are interested in now.
Rogue Elendae
12-06-07, 08:25 PM Well, the best way is likely to get involved with an already-active gaming group (who have the 3.5 ed. books), so that you not only have people with experience to help you get a handle on the rules and gameplay. Then, you can look up the SRD (www.d20srd.org) to get access to some of the rules when you're not in the presence of the group. That can let you get a taste of how the basics of the gameplay run, so that you've got some sort of baseline to work from.

Then, depending on the group's general consensus regarding 4th ed., you can decide which books to buy. If you're in a group that primarily intends to stick with 3.5, you might decide to buy that rather than go into 4th ed. If they're going to go with 4th ed., then you know to not waste time on 3.5. And you'll get a taste for the game without having to necessarily blow a huge amount of cash on it all at once. Though all you'd really need as a player is the PHB, which is only a $30+tax commitment, plus dice (d20, d12, 2d%, d10, d8, 4d6, d4), if you can find a group willing to teach you the basics of the game.
Luke247494
12-06-07, 08:27 PM Thanks, i have enough so I'll get the 3.5 basics then go all out on 4th Edition
Vrykolas2k
12-06-07, 09:28 PM Or... get the 3.5 stuff you want and ignore 4th.
Luke247494
12-06-07, 10:35 PM Why? Does 3.5 have some advantage or is it just generally better?
Luke247494
12-06-07, 10:36 PM Can i erase posts my computer did this twice for some reason
BarivusTheFearless
12-06-07, 10:53 PM Can i erase posts my computer did this twice for some reason

nah just edit a double post with "I R SORRY. COMPY GO PPPTTTTHHHHHP"

lol. but we all double post sometimes. its kew:)
Vrykolas2k
12-06-07, 11:07 PM Why? Does 3.5 have some advantage or is it just generally better?

Can't say it's "better" per se, no-one's actually seen 4th. But, you don't have to pay-to-play, and the books are already out for the most part... no waiting.
Seeker95
12-07-07, 08:22 AM Can't say it's "better" per se, no-one's actually seen 4th.That hasn't stopped a rather vocal portion of the Boards population from saying so anyway. :devil:
But, you don't have to pay-to-play,You don't have to pay-to-play 4e either. You *can* pay to play online, which is a great feature for those folks who are always looking for a group. But you can (and I will) still do things the old fashioned way... buy the books, get some friends, and sit around the table to play.
and the books are already out for the most part... no waiting.This is the best reason to consider 3.5 at this time.
Kamin_Majere
12-07-07, 08:35 AM Yeah 3.x has pretty much anything you would need to play anything you would want with no waiting.

4th edition will come out new and have very little except for the core books for a while, where as 3.x has 100+ books out sor its support from just WotC and no telling how many 3rd party books.

I figure by the time i run out of "new" things to do with 3.x, 8th edition will be about ready for release and i'll switch then lol

But if your looking to just jump into 4th edition, use the SRD for the basic rules and get a group willing to teach and play. Then when 4th comes out you can go all crazy and buy every splat book they create.
Artifact
12-07-07, 01:23 PM Just to note: D&D 3rd edtion and D&D 4th edition are both entirely separate game systems. That is, you can play 3rd without having access to 4th and vice versa. Both editions are also table-top, pen and paper games. Its kinda like buying a new edition of Madden Football every year; the name stays the same but the game is complete in itself, trying something new and (hopefully) exciting each year.

Debates on these boards notwithstanding, each system has its merits and shortcomings. In the case of 4th of course, this is alleged, since we don't know much about it just yet. Personally, I think you'll enjoy D&D no matter which edition you decide to play. The name of the game is to have fun :).

As others have mentioned however, if you decide to go with 3rd edition, you won't have to wait for new rules supplements (which are always fun) to be released; most everything has been released at this point. With 4th edition of course, you can get in on the ground floor, which also has its appeal. I'm looking forward to it myself ;).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Luke247494 12-06-07, 07:26 PM	Ok so i just got interested a few days ago and heard about 4th Edition so i want to know whether i should buy all of the 3.5 books and stuff and learn the 3.5 rules or wait 'till 4th Edition and save money but waste time :confused: :confused: :confused:
Seeker95 12-06-07, 08:20 PM	How much money do you have? :devil: Do you already have a gaming group inviting you to play? If yes, thenh at least pony up the money for e3.5 Player's Handbook so you can learn how to play your own character at times other than when you are in session. Otherwise, go ahead and hold off. if you can. After all, six months is a long time to wait for something you are interested in now.
Rogue Elendae 12-06-07, 08:25 PM	Well, the best way is likely to get involved with an already-active gaming group (who have the 3.5 ed. books), so that you not only have people with experience to help you get a handle on the rules and gameplay. Then, you can look up the SRD (www.d20srd.org) to get access to some of the rules when you're not in the presence of the group. That can let you get a taste of how the basics of the gameplay run, so that you've got some sort of baseline to work from. Then, depending on the group's general consensus regarding 4th ed., you can decide which books to buy. If you're in a group that primarily intends to stick with 3.5, you might decide to buy that rather than go into 4th ed. If they're going to go with 4th ed., then you know to not waste time on 3.5. And you'll get a taste for the game without having to necessarily blow a huge amount of cash on it all at once. Though all you'd really need as a player is the PHB, which is only a $30+tax commitment, plus dice (d20, d12, 2d%, d10, d8, 4d6, d4), if you can find a group willing to teach you the basics of the game.
Luke247494 12-06-07, 08:27 PM	Thanks, i have enough so I'll get the 3.5 basics then go all out on 4th Edition
Vrykolas2k 12-06-07, 09:28 PM	Or... get the 3.5 stuff you want and ignore 4th.
Luke247494 12-06-07, 10:35 PM	Why? Does 3.5 have some advantage or is it just generally better?
Luke247494 12-06-07, 10:36 PM	Can i erase posts my computer did this twice for some reason
BarivusTheFearless 12-06-07, 10:53 PM	Can i erase posts my computer did this twice for some reason nah just edit a double post with "I R SORRY. COMPY GO PPPTTTTHHHHHP" lol. but we all double post sometimes. its kew:)
Vrykolas2k 12-06-07, 11:07 PM	Why? Does 3.5 have some advantage or is it just generally better? Can't say it's "better" per se, no-one's actually seen 4th. But, you don't have to pay-to-play, and the books are already out for the most part... no waiting.
Seeker95 12-07-07, 08:22 AM	Can't say it's "better" per se, no-one's actually seen 4th.That hasn't stopped a rather vocal portion of the Boards population from saying so anyway. :devil: But, you don't have to pay-to-play,You don't have to pay-to-play 4e either. You can pay to play online, which is a great feature for those folks who are always looking for a group. But you can (and I will) still do things the old fashioned way... buy the books, get some friends, and sit around the table to play. and the books are already out for the most part... no waiting.This is the best reason to consider 3.5 at this time.
Kamin_Majere 12-07-07, 08:35 AM	Yeah 3.x has pretty much anything you would need to play anything you would want with no waiting. 4th edition will come out new and have very little except for the core books for a while, where as 3.x has 100+ books out sor its support from just WotC and no telling how many 3rd party books. I figure by the time i run out of "new" things to do with 3.x, 8th edition will be about ready for release and i'll switch then lol But if your looking to just jump into 4th edition, use the SRD for the basic rules and get a group willing to teach and play. Then when 4th comes out you can go all crazy and buy every splat book they create.
Artifact 12-07-07, 01:23 PM	Just to note: D&D 3rd edtion and D&D 4th edition are both entirely separate game systems. That is, you can play 3rd without having access to 4th and vice versa. Both editions are also table-top, pen and paper games. Its kinda like buying a new edition of Madden Football every year; the name stays the same but the game is complete in itself, trying something new and (hopefully) exciting each year. Debates on these boards notwithstanding, each system has its merits and shortcomings. In the case of 4th of course, this is alleged, since we don't know much about it just yet. Personally, I think you'll enjoy D&D no matter which edition you decide to play. The name of the game is to have fun :). As others have mentioned however, if you decide to go with 3rd edition, you won't have to wait for new rules supplements (which are always fun) to be released; most everything has been released at this point. With 4th edition of course, you can get in on the ground floor, which also has its appeal. I'm looking forward to it myself ;).