"Complete Books"..where "can" I use them? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Darkweaver

07-26-05, 04:02 PM
Nice to meet you!!!

I have a question I think fits this forum!

With my group we're starting a new campaign in the FR setting (I know this is the general D&D forum! :D ) and being the master I planned to use only the three core books and the Player's Guide to Faerun.

An hour ago a guy in the group called me by phone, exalted by having just bought the Complete Adventurer book and asking me to allow the party to use it in the character creation.

Now... I know that theoretically I can do anything I want BUT..I'm asking myself if the Complete series books are intended to be used in all settings for the D&D 3.5 game or just in the "general" setting (Greyhawk?!)?? Especially when it comes to Prestige Classes I think there could be some problems.

I suppose around in the forums this topic has already been discussed, but I looked around for a while without finding anything... Also, I still have to read the book, maybe in the book is a full "What to use in this book if you play in the Forgotten Realms" section...

Greetings from Italy, thank you all and good luck!
Illion the Red

07-26-05, 04:28 PM
You can use the complete books in any setting. I would strongly advise against allowing anything in that you, as the DM, are not familiar with and have not had time to read, and mull over. Make sure what the player wants to add will fit into your campaign before you allow it.

Good Luck :)
MT-296 "Dagger"

07-26-05, 06:57 PM
The Complete Series is meant to be used in any and all settings. Greyhawk,Eberron,FR, and the like. CADV is actually a good book from what I've heard. Good luck! ;)
Bruunwald

07-26-05, 07:11 PM
Complete Adventurer is the best of the Complete books, in my opinion. As a DM, you will also find the book worth your while. Many of my newest and best NPCs borrow heavily from that book.
Antioch

07-26-05, 07:21 PM
Nothing springs to mind that would be wholly inappropriate in your game. Monsters, races, and even core classes from other books can all be integrated in if you want to use them.
First thing to remember that its YOUR Forgotten Realms game. If you deviate from official material, its alright. Be sure to explain this to you players as well so historical buffs that happen to know more dont derail your game. If you want warforged, hexblades, and lawful good liches roaming the land, its perfectly fine.
Second, as has been mentioned, I strongly advise that you read over anything you are not familiar with, as it is possible that certain choices (be they races, classes, prestige classes, spells, feats, etc) might possess abilities or features that you have not accounted for and could possibly disrupt the game.
Basically, just read it and if you want, use it. Dont let canon get in the way of your creativity and fun.
MerricB

07-26-05, 08:20 PM
Now... I know that theoretically I can do anything I want BUT..I'm asking myself if the Complete series books are intended to be used in all settings for the D&D 3.5 game or just in the "general" setting (Greyhawk?!)?? Especially when it comes to Prestige Classes I think there could be some problems.

G'day!

Yes, the "Complete" books are sufficiently generic that you can (and probably should) use them in any D&D game.

However, you are quite right to be concerned about just allowing the Prestige Classes. The inclusion of any Prestige Class is totally up to you as the DM. If you feel it fits into your campaign, then you can allow it; if you feel will cause problems, then you can disallow its inclusion.

Some prestige classes are sufficiently generic to work anywhere; others are far more specific.

Cheers!
Ibbins

07-26-05, 10:15 PM
Every PrC entry in the Complete books has a bit about adapting the class to fit a specific campaign. They're quite useful.
Lord Gwydion

07-26-05, 10:21 PM
Also remember that as a DM, you're well within your rights to disallow a PrC, feat, weapon, or anything else that is thematically a problem, even if the mechanics are sound. If you don't have a place for the Fochluchan College (an organization in the Complete books) in your game, even if you think the PrCs that go with it are fine, then it's out. :D

However, in my experience, there's room in the Realms for just about anything, as long as your group doesn't have that one guy in it who knows the exact location of every town, village, and hamlet and every NPC, no matter how minor, according to the official book and insists they must be there because "such and such novel said so."
Antioch

07-26-05, 11:51 PM
The name of an organization should not be an inhibiting factor or a reason why you are disallowing it. You can always change the name or how the school works.
Temrek

07-27-05, 03:26 AM
IIRC complete warrior even had some forgotten realms based prestiege claases such as the Thayan Knight and purple dragon knight.
Darkweaver

07-29-05, 07:48 AM
In the end we decided to use them, with the necessity of a bit of discussion in case of somewhat "non Faerun" oriented Prestige Classes!

Thanks a lot to you all!!!
WizardlyFriend

07-29-05, 08:03 AM
the problem is that some of the PrC in the complete books rely on ingame organizations that may not exist in your world.
Darkweaver

07-29-05, 08:15 AM
the problem is that some of the PrC in the complete books rely on ingame organizations that may not exist in your world.

Actually I think we'll avoid completely all prestige classes based on non-Faerunian organizations...