"LOL"(?) - Sons of Gruumsh??? [Archive] - Wizards Community

"LOL"(?) - Sons of Gruumsh??? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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jokei
10-05-06, 06:22 PM Okay, so I've got this idea...

Also I'd like to know if Wizards... would have copyright on the name "Sons of Gruumsh" if I wanted to use it as the name for a stoner/rock'n'roll/pop - band...

Sort of Kyuss meets Hidden Cameras/Beatles/Belle and Sebastien. Anyway, stupid idea, but we're gonna do it, we've all been playing in bands for years, but we're gonna do it in the style of Orcs/Lordii/Gwar and sing about killing Elves and stuff...

...also is it considered "Race-Hate" to sing about killing Elves?
Sarella Starshine
10-05-06, 06:25 PM i don't know, but i am sooo stealing this idea for a group of orcish bards in my setting..the idea is soooo great i had to.
Label
10-05-06, 07:20 PM For the name "sons of gruumsh" I don't know but for songs about killing elves and stuff it's already a hit in France and in Québec with the Naheulband. But their musical style is more celtic.
CuttingTorch
10-05-06, 07:23 PM i don't know, but i am sooo stealing this idea for a group of orcish bards in my setting..the idea is soooo great i had to. How are you going to work "heavy-metal" into a fantasy campaign setting. I must know!
jokei
10-05-06, 07:42 PM How are you going to work "heavy-metal" into a fantasy campaign setting. I must know!

Hey, I want to know this too.

It'd "kind of" make sense for rock/metal music to make it into some fantasy settings; barbarian tribes etc. Good for getting the troops roused - and I've seen the odd David Coverdale-inspired rogue (sorry rouge). Awesome.
Sarella Starshine
10-05-06, 07:55 PM well, considering they are orcs...almost any music they make would sound heavy metalish :P (ducks)
Red12
10-05-06, 09:08 PM Reminds me of the band I put together in a game once (was a bard)

We had me, a half-elven lyre-player. I also worked in spells into the show, ex: glitterdust/illusions. Kinda pyrotechnics.

We had a hobgoblin who could absolutely shred on his mandolin. But, he was ugly, so he never really got much work.

There was a tiefling drummer, who was pretty good. He had a flaming goatee.

We had dwarvin women who was the vocalist. She was a growler, a la heavy metal. She was a bit of a diva, but she really got the crowd going.

And we had 2 halflings, one played the pan pipes, the other played a lute.

Only me and the hobgoblin were bards, the rest were just good with their instruments. :D

Our name:
"Powerword: Rock"

In the last game I was with the band, we played at a noble ball. Just my luck, my glitterdust spell not only enlivend the crowd, but revealed a invisible assassin!!! :O It was a fun game... :D
Ashok_Lal
10-05-06, 10:33 PM How are you going to work "heavy-metal" into a fantasy campaign setting. I must know!

Maces, War hammers. swords usaly are not light.;)
Darkxarth
10-05-06, 10:39 PM Our name: "Powerword: Rock"
Totally, Awesome.
Alac Luin
10-05-06, 11:06 PM Here is an item I hade awhile ago for something similar, It was for the Realms, feel free to use it and change the history if you want.

Mandolin of Drixon: Originally created by the bard Jorron Drixon of the Moonsea area. Jorron disappeared after a performance in Mulmaster some 50 winters ago. It was no secret he had following in many cities surrounding the Moonsea, including Zentil Keep. It was even said Manshoon once attended a performance and was “intrigued” at the fanaticism some of the audience displayed. Several copies of this mandolin have been made based on its known powers. It is believed the original has greater abilities that can be unlocked by discovering the correct cords or riffs.
Lesser Mandolin of Drixon: This item works only for those with 3 Ranks in of the Perform (Mandolin). They have a unlimited use of Amplify Music effect, controlled by a command word, so as to be played without the amplification. This instrument also has the following abilities usable by strumming certain cords in particular octaves. The ability to strum the correct cord will interrupt any bardic ability being used.
Shout 1/ day
Enthrall 2/ day
Charm person 1/day
Pyrotechnics 3/day
Greater Mandolin of Drixon: The additional powers of the greater mandolin of Drixon can only be used by a Bard with 6 ranks in Perform(Mandolin). They have all the abilities of a Lesser Mandolin of Drixon, with the additional abilities.
Song of discord 1/10 days
Crushing despair 1/day
moderate enchantment; CL10 (lesser), CL15 Bard(greater); Craft Wondrous Item, Shout, Enthrall, Charm person, Pyrotechnics (Lesser and greater), Song of discord, Crushing despair (Greater) Price; 166,320GP (Lesser), 206,892GP (Greater)

Amplify Music

Level: Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 4
Components: V, S, F
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Caster
Range: Personal
Area: 50 ft/10 ft per level (see below)
Duration: 1 round/level
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: No

By means of this spell, all music, singing and rhythmic speech (ie. Poetry, etc) created by the caster, either by voice or instrument, is amplified to carry greater distances. The edge of this spell, all amplified sound is at the same volume as if the caster occupied that spot. This increased distance allows a bard to use his Bardic Abilities at a greater range. A 10th level bard can fascinate a creature at a distance of 240 ft (50ft + 100 ft for levels and + 90 ft per the fascinate ability). Normal spoken communication is hindered at close range, and loud enough to cause a distraction to spell casters. Listen checks are made at a -20 penalty in squares adjacent to the caster (while music is active), decreasing by 2 per 5ft. Any spellcaster attempting to cast a spell with a verbal component within 20 ft of the caster must succeed a Concentration check(DC 10) in order to cast the spell. This spell is commonly used by bards to increase the size of their audience.
Reversefigure4
10-06-06, 05:26 AM To answer the original question, yes, Wizards are bound to have the trademark on the name "Gruumsh". It's not OGL, after all.
Seeker95
10-06-06, 09:43 AM Whether they have it trademarked or not, they are unlikely to be able to prevent you from using it in the name of a band. Trademarks require some degree of competition. A band name in no way causes confusion with a roleplaying game supplement.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
jokei 10-05-06, 06:22 PM	Okay, so I've got this idea... Also I'd like to know if Wizards... would have copyright on the name "Sons of Gruumsh" if I wanted to use it as the name for a stoner/rock'n'roll/pop - band... Sort of Kyuss meets Hidden Cameras/Beatles/Belle and Sebastien. Anyway, stupid idea, but we're gonna do it, we've all been playing in bands for years, but we're gonna do it in the style of Orcs/Lordii/Gwar and sing about killing Elves and stuff... ...also is it considered "Race-Hate" to sing about killing Elves?
Sarella Starshine 10-05-06, 06:25 PM	i don't know, but i am sooo stealing this idea for a group of orcish bards in my setting..the idea is soooo great i had to.
Label 10-05-06, 07:20 PM	For the name "sons of gruumsh" I don't know but for songs about killing elves and stuff it's already a hit in France and in Québec with the Naheulband. But their musical style is more celtic.
CuttingTorch 10-05-06, 07:23 PM	i don't know, but i am sooo stealing this idea for a group of orcish bards in my setting..the idea is soooo great i had to. How are you going to work "heavy-metal" into a fantasy campaign setting. I must know!
jokei 10-05-06, 07:42 PM	How are you going to work "heavy-metal" into a fantasy campaign setting. I must know! Hey, I want to know this too. It'd "kind of" make sense for rock/metal music to make it into some fantasy settings; barbarian tribes etc. Good for getting the troops roused - and I've seen the odd David Coverdale-inspired rogue (sorry rouge). Awesome.
Sarella Starshine 10-05-06, 07:55 PM	well, considering they are orcs...almost any music they make would sound heavy metalish :P (ducks)
Red12 10-05-06, 09:08 PM	Reminds me of the band I put together in a game once (was a bard) We had me, a half-elven lyre-player. I also worked in spells into the show, ex: glitterdust/illusions. Kinda pyrotechnics. We had a hobgoblin who could absolutely shred on his mandolin. But, he was ugly, so he never really got much work. There was a tiefling drummer, who was pretty good. He had a flaming goatee. We had dwarvin women who was the vocalist. She was a growler, a la heavy metal. She was a bit of a diva, but she really got the crowd going. And we had 2 halflings, one played the pan pipes, the other played a lute. Only me and the hobgoblin were bards, the rest were just good with their instruments. :D Our name: "Powerword: Rock" In the last game I was with the band, we played at a noble ball. Just my luck, my glitterdust spell not only enlivend the crowd, but revealed a invisible assassin!!! :O It was a fun game... :D
Ashok_Lal 10-05-06, 10:33 PM	How are you going to work "heavy-metal" into a fantasy campaign setting. I must know! Maces, War hammers. swords usaly are not light.;)
Darkxarth 10-05-06, 10:39 PM	Our name: "Powerword: Rock" Totally, Awesome.
Alac Luin 10-05-06, 11:06 PM	Here is an item I hade awhile ago for something similar, It was for the Realms, feel free to use it and change the history if you want. Mandolin of Drixon: Originally created by the bard Jorron Drixon of the Moonsea area. Jorron disappeared after a performance in Mulmaster some 50 winters ago. It was no secret he had following in many cities surrounding the Moonsea, including Zentil Keep. It was even said Manshoon once attended a performance and was “intrigued” at the fanaticism some of the audience displayed. Several copies of this mandolin have been made based on its known powers. It is believed the original has greater abilities that can be unlocked by discovering the correct cords or riffs. Lesser Mandolin of Drixon: This item works only for those with 3 Ranks in of the Perform (Mandolin). They have a unlimited use of Amplify Music effect, controlled by a command word, so as to be played without the amplification. This instrument also has the following abilities usable by strumming certain cords in particular octaves. The ability to strum the correct cord will interrupt any bardic ability being used. Shout 1/ day Enthrall 2/ day Charm person 1/day Pyrotechnics 3/day Greater Mandolin of Drixon: The additional powers of the greater mandolin of Drixon can only be used by a Bard with 6 ranks in Perform(Mandolin). They have all the abilities of a Lesser Mandolin of Drixon, with the additional abilities. Song of discord 1/10 days Crushing despair 1/day moderate enchantment; CL10 (lesser), CL15 Bard(greater); Craft Wondrous Item, Shout, Enthrall, Charm person, Pyrotechnics (Lesser and greater), Song of discord, Crushing despair (Greater) Price; 166,320GP (Lesser), 206,892GP (Greater) Amplify Music Level: Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 4 Components: V, S, F Casting Time: 1 standard action Range: Caster Range: Personal Area: 50 ft/10 ft per level (see below) Duration: 1 round/level Saving Throw: None Spell Resistance: No By means of this spell, all music, singing and rhythmic speech (ie. Poetry, etc) created by the caster, either by voice or instrument, is amplified to carry greater distances. The edge of this spell, all amplified sound is at the same volume as if the caster occupied that spot. This increased distance allows a bard to use his Bardic Abilities at a greater range. A 10th level bard can fascinate a creature at a distance of 240 ft (50ft + 100 ft for levels and + 90 ft per the fascinate ability). Normal spoken communication is hindered at close range, and loud enough to cause a distraction to spell casters. Listen checks are made at a -20 penalty in squares adjacent to the caster (while music is active), decreasing by 2 per 5ft. Any spellcaster attempting to cast a spell with a verbal component within 20 ft of the caster must succeed a Concentration check(DC 10) in order to cast the spell. This spell is commonly used by bards to increase the size of their audience.
Reversefigure4 10-06-06, 05:26 AM	To answer the original question, yes, Wizards are bound to have the trademark on the name "Gruumsh". It's not OGL, after all.
Seeker95 10-06-06, 09:43 AM	Whether they have it trademarked or not, they are unlikely to be able to prevent you from using it in the name of a band. Trademarks require some degree of competition. A band name in no way causes confusion with a roleplaying game supplement.