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Andrew_980 04-06-05, 08:04 PM	what is the worst PC concept, race/class/feat/gear combo that you have seen a player use or really try to use. No foolish attempt to top other posters with made up stuff, please. I really wonder what folks are trying to use.
Draco Strang 04-06-05, 08:20 PM	what is the worst PC concept, race/class/feat/gear combo that you have seen a player use or really try to use. No foolish attempt to top other posters with made up stuff, please. I really wonder what folks are trying to use. Half Drow-Half Illithid Judicator/Wizard/Cleric with the feral and Chosen of Lloth templates. I swear to God. He didn't make it past the first session. I totally, blatantly, and unfairly killed his character with a level 19 town guard captain (that I made up on the spot) after he used the illithid skin graft facial mask to explode his skin off, causing 1d6 points of damage to the commoners nearby and scaring them witless. Please note I didn't clear this idea, it was brought to me at the beginning of session one, by a player who I'd never had before, but "was a really experienced gamer, and knew what he was doing." This is the same kid who thought that adding your BAB to damage was correct. Experienced my foot.
Bulabase 04-06-05, 09:02 PM	Just to see if I could, I made this monster for a friend's game: Half-dragon, winged, insectile, tauric-rhino, incarnate construct, effigy, gelatinous, anthropomorphic wolverine. I plan to actually play this character. The character is a satire of the "over the top" gaming style of my friend's game. Lots of templates and broken combos.
weasel fierce 04-06-05, 11:58 PM	I thought half-golem was a pretty dumb idea, but I dont know if it was actually published or just made up.
Moon-Lancer 04-07-05, 01:00 AM	a anthropomorphic baleen whale with a spiked chain. Used a point buy and lowered his int and cha and wis? To 3? and put the extra points into strength, and dex. (I realize now that you cant improve your score above an 18 on a point buy but at the time the dm didn’t know that) He loved krill and liked (playing) the tiny “squishies” (people) I admit it was role-played well but.... the player got mad when the dm rolled two critical hits in a row and took half his life away. He thought his character was untouchable. Had an ac if really high for a level five party. Something to the effect of 30 something? Its been a few years so I forget. To top it off it also had a the feral template. SO imagine a furry baleen whale.... ug it makes me sick to my stomach. Luckily the player realizes now that what is most powerful is not always fun to play or cool. I think it was this Anthropremorphic baleen whale 3 racial hit dice no +la (???????) 1 la feral 1 level fighter So over all he lost one hit dice compared to the other players but was almost unstoppable. Baleen whales are the most broken race in savage speaces.
Scipio 04-07-05, 03:05 AM	Easy, Tarrasque Monk. That was a scary combo that didn't make it off the drawing board.
Vharuck 04-07-05, 05:17 AM	Elf Shifter Paladin. He actually left the game for two weeks since I told him he couldn't be two races at the same time.
Hobbygoblin 04-07-05, 08:45 AM	Vampiric Celestial Zombie Paladin of Freedom/Ninja/Gunslinger
Andrew_980 04-07-05, 08:51 AM	please, real PCs only. I want examples of the worst seen, not the most rediculous possable
Seeker95 04-07-05, 09:16 AM	please, real PCs only. I want examples of the worst seen, not the most rediculous possableWhy are you assuming these are not real PCs? Players have been making cheese PCs since the books were released.
Count Arioch the 28th 04-07-05, 09:20 AM	I one time made a half celestial beholder paladin. He got killed three seconds into character creation though. (I'm still counting it though.) Note that this was a week after 3E came out, and I was purposefully making up the dumbest thing I could.
Wizard 04-07-05, 09:58 AM	Vampire psion. That's it. A +8 LA for a primary caster. Suicide.
Sulaco 04-07-05, 10:22 AM	what is the worst PC concept, race/class/feat/gear combo that you have seen a player use or really try to use. No foolish attempt to top other posters with made up stuff, please. I really wonder what folks are trying to use. Half-anything. I have only once ever seen a player take a half-X creature and play it well, and this was way back in the 2e days. I find it both funny and sad when I see people talk about their PCs and like 95% of them are half-this and half-that with like 12 classes and a rack of PrCs. I fell odd that I still enjoy playing bog-standard straight-classed core race PCs.
caeruleus 04-07-05, 10:32 AM	During World Wide D&D Game Day last year, I was playing with a group that started at 1st level. Then some guy comes along with a were-raptor (the dinosaur) with I don't remember how may racial HD, and a bunch of magic items. And the DM allowed it. Did I mention that the rest of us were 1st level? Perhaps not the craziest possible, but it stands out in my mind.
caeruleus 04-07-05, 10:34 AM	Oh yes, and he only played the were-raptor because the DM didn't allow the "23rd level gold dragon".
scwolf 04-07-05, 01:39 PM	Half-anything. Even Half Elf?
Syrus The Red 04-07-05, 02:05 PM	A player once asked me to play a Half-lizardfolk/half-clay golem Bard/Ninja of the Cresant Moon. I looked at him and laughed. He didn't understand what was funny.
Korhal_IV 04-07-05, 02:41 PM	I made a gnome bard. That doesn't sound too bad, but the situation makes it a horrible, horrible choice - I took him into an arena match versus a half-orc barbarian with a spiked chain. And rolled a 1 on Use Magic Device to boot.
Sulaco 04-07-05, 02:43 PM	Even Half Elf? Pretty much. Most people play them as either human or elf with little or no effort put into trying to make a uniquely cross-species character.
Alcari Ambaron 04-07-05, 02:58 PM	i once had a player do a Grimlock Illusionist.... that was pretty bad
Tanthalas1337 04-07-05, 03:15 PM	I think the worst possible PC has to be the Glass of orange juice character my old DM let me use. It was so stupid, but a lot of fun. Imagine towelie from south park (the little drug towel) and make it a glass of fresh squezzed OJ, and then give it scalemail, a helm, a bastard sword, horse and three levels of fighter and two of sorcerer. yeah, it was the shiznit. but it was really bad.
MrMorden 04-07-05, 03:48 PM	I think the worst possible PC has to be the Glass of orange juice character my old DM let me use. It was so stupid, but a lot of fun. Imagine towelie from south park (the little drug towel) and make it a glass of fresh squezzed OJ, and then give it scalemail, a helm, a bastard sword, horse and three levels of fighter and two of sorcerer. yeah, it was the shiznit. but it was really bad. Um...were you high at the time? ;)
shadow_walker2.0 04-07-05, 03:59 PM	a Drow Ninja/pirate and once my Dm made a bard at 3nd L.v with quicken spell and empower spell his only justifaction was " I can cast dancing light very quickly."
Tanthalas1337 04-07-05, 04:08 PM	Um...were you high at the time? ;) no . . .it was a joke, but we thought it would be fun to play it as a serious character. my DM explained the OJ fighter's existence through the animate objest spell, and the animated OJ went nuts and became independent, and grew legs and arms. Although, it did sound like we were high, we dont have access to drugs. well, my DM might have. i dont know, it was fun though. hehe, i think it's name was like pulp or something. "fear me, for I am Concentrate free!"
Syrus The Red 04-07-05, 05:07 PM	That's hilarious dude!Perhaps OJ and my Taco (5th lvl rogue/1st lvl barbarian) can go raid Peperage farms! :rofl:
Ogre4Hire 04-07-05, 05:48 PM	Half-Gold Dragon, Half Yuan Ti Abbomination 10th level Monk who was immune to acid and dealt extra Unarmed Strike damage because he had claws. Did I mention that it was supposed to be an 8th level campaign? He soloed a monster that was supposed to drive us away. I almost quit playing then and there (and I did quit with that group).
Tanthalas1337 04-07-05, 06:06 PM	That's hilarious dude!Perhaps OJ and my Taco (5th lvl rogue/1st lvl barbarian) can go raid Peperage farms! :rofl: that's hilarious, i wish i still had OJ's character sheet, but i could always remake him. As someone in a movie once said, "we can rebuild him , we have the technology, stronger, faster, more pulpy" :dancin:
Guildmaster 04-07-05, 08:57 PM	well my freind DID play this one time in an old campaign A 10th level half-elf vampire Ranger/Blackgaur that had an intelligent sowrd that grew in enhancements by 1 each tie the character leveled up it was a 7th level campaign he had a +10 unholy Greatsword with some wacky abilities tlka about overpowwered now he runes a Gnome eldritch knight/wizard with all the two weapon fighting feath using a staff of something and a +3 Longsword of shock talk about messed up
Morbid Angel 04-07-05, 09:26 PM	A friend of mine wanted to run a one shot game. He told us we could have any 2 templates we wanted (fairly inexperienced DM). One of the other players shows up to game with a Titanic Paragon Awakened Squirrel. :blink:
Tanthalas1337 04-07-05, 09:43 PM	hey morbid angel, your squirrel just reminded me of a really good character of mine, but with a really cool/lame catch. It was an elven ranger, and in trying to take advantage of his spell abilities, i summoned a squirrel, and made it my little sidekick. It sat on my shoulder with a little sack around its neck filled with nuts. (think of deku seeds from Zelda: OOT) so, in combat, it would dip its head into the . . .hehe. . .******* and pull its ear back like that the bolt on a machine gun and start firing, it was actually really good, it killed a few zombies. 1d6 damage. oh, and the ranger had a tiger as a mount. He also had two longswords of speed, and two weapon fighting, he was awesome, his enemy was terrasque, and my DM fudged the rules and made the game have a lot of them, and i had great cleave. It made way for some really cool combat descriptions. I killed thirty-two terrasques. 32. :king: :ayyyy!: I was friekin awesome, and i forgot what level, but i was probably eligible for epic, but we didnt play with epics. yeah. So many Terrasques.
FreeTheSlaves 04-07-05, 10:04 PM	Maybe not worst PC concept but utterly useless was the elf assassin in my homebrew ToEE adventure. This campaign was all about combat and body counts and here is the character: Elf Rogue1/sorcerer4/assassin1. He could go invisible and use his death attack but his BAB was only +2 modified to about +5. The death attack is powered by Int but his 2nd best score was in Cha and his 4th best score of 12 was assigned to Int = DC 12 death attack. So he could go invisible and miss but if he did hit the victim was unlucky to die. All he did was go invisible and watch the battle for 3 rounds. He sucked.
Disturbed1 04-08-05, 11:48 AM	YAY, i finally found someone who is a worse typer than i am. hooray for guildmaster!:P worst ever.....oh....not a dnd char, it was for d20modern, but i played a guy with multiple personality disorder, and every time he got hit on the head, hed switch personalities, and become a new char. i had like 5 sheets. a pole fighter, a mage, and gunslinger(same effect as an archer), an unarmed fighter, and a divine healer. got tired of getttin switched around in the middle of combat, so we did a "Identity" type thing where they all faced each other and the one survivor took over as the person. actually got the idea from Identity too. great movie.
Tanthalas1337 04-10-05, 03:24 PM	um . . .bad character, bad character hmm . . .:lightbulb: got it! well . . . the characters not that bad, but he's unbalanced. I was playing with my buddy once (he was dmming) and his npc was a rogue. in the treasure hoard we eventually find, he says "oh, and my character finds to magic daggers." that can't be too bad, right? well. . .first of all he doesnt have two weapon fighting, so he just randomly gave his character that ability. second, the daggers are each 2d8. 2D8!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: :OMG!: that's not right!!!!!!!!!! wrong wrong wrong. :nonono: i was gonna kill him. And he doesnt quite grasp that you cant just do that and nonchalantly cheat in such a serious way. he was level 3. c'mon. and the daggers are magic. The give him the ability (no limit on usage) to teleport behind enemies during combat for a sneak attack (he dubbed them the daggers of sneak attack) tell me thats not wrong.
q'afuu 04-10-05, 05:02 PM	Anything Frenzied Berserker. Whenever that PrC gets mentioned in my game room (or even at my LFGS), a chorus of groans rises to the heavens, begging for mercy.
Seeker95 04-10-05, 09:25 PM	tell me thats not wrong.That's not wrong. (just fulfilling your request)
Tanthalas1337 04-10-05, 09:43 PM	lol. . .yeah, it was pretty messed up when it happened though. I am still trying to figure out a way to make him lose those daggers without him b**ching about it. Maybe i have him fight on a cliff, NPC makes a succesful unarm attempt, and his daggers go flying. hehe, excellent. :dancin:
Telaria 04-12-05, 02:32 PM	I have two words for you. Succubi Paladin. Does there _need_ to be more?
Eliza_Stormwhisper 04-12-05, 03:02 PM	Any nonstandard race with an alignment opposed to type. One of my players wanted to play a good Tiefling ninja. I smacked him.
Lostboy1701 04-12-05, 03:07 PM	http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=412433
Telaria 04-12-05, 03:26 PM	Any nonstandard race with an alignment opposed to type. One of my players wanted to play a good Tiefling ninja. I smacked him. In your player's favor, Tieflings, like most PC races, can follow a variety of alignments and are described as 'tending towards evil alignments'. It's specifically noted that, while rare, they can be good. On the other hand, most non-PC races have that pesky 'always' stuck in front of their alignment descriptor...
epifreak 04-13-05, 02:07 AM	On the other hand, most non-PC races have that pesky 'always' stuck in front of their alignment descriptor... In one of the monster manuals it addresses that, saying that exceptions can exist, but they're like 1 in 1,000,000. Anyway, my girlfriend got ****** at her DM because he demanded she play a good character (she tends towards evil), so she asked me to find her a few templates to make the character cooler. I found a few, and as a result, she ended up mashing them together to form a half-lumi (monster manual 3) half silver dragon cleric. (He was a 1st time DM). Anyway, here's where the fun begins. He had her keep all her lumi stats, abilities, etc.... despite being only 1/2 lumi, AND she got to keep all the half-drag stuff. She ended up with 1 stat below 20, enough spell-likes to make up for the level adjustment caster-level-wise, and polymorph self at will. (note: not alter self, polymorph) Early on, they ended up in a city being attacked by a black dragon.....so she just morphs into a bigger dragon and breaks it. She's currently working with the same DM on entering play as an evil character sent by the Nerull to slow the party. She'll be a level 7 rogue, 1/2 fey. Not quite so bad, save for one thing: the DM created a feat for her to attempt to account for the massive amount of bluff checks she'll have to be doing, and keep in mind here, that epic skill focus adds like +9 to a skill. True Bluff +20 to all bluff checks :weep: Now, just for giggles here, I added everything up on that. @ level 7, she has +10 (ranks), +6 (chr), +20 (dumbass feat) for a grand total of +36......for characters whose sense motive will probably maximize at + 12 or so.....
P33KAJ3W 04-13-05, 03:13 PM	what is the worst PC concept, race/class/feat/gear combo that you have seen a player use or really try to use. No foolish attempt to top other posters with made up stuff, please. I really wonder what folks are trying to use. Half-Giant (PsyWar 6/Dragon Disiple 10/Bard 4) curent 21st level pc in my epic game
Flakster 04-13-05, 10:41 PM	I once had a player play a Dwarf Sorcerer who thought he was the son of the king of all Squirrels (He was slightly retarded). His name was Prince Oog. He met an untimely end when he was mauled to death by a dire squirrel.
Ogre4Hire 04-14-05, 12:49 PM	Anything Frenzied Berserker. Whenever that PrC gets mentioned in my game room (or even at my LFGS), a chorus of groans rises to the heavens, begging for mercy. I hear that! I've got a standing rule that if any player even asks about Frienzied Berserkers (regardless of context), their character is struck by Energy Drain and Mordenkainen's Disjunction with no save or SR.
LordVyreth 04-15-05, 12:22 AM	My strangest character was a druid/barbariarn named Torg Faunal. He suffered a head wound sometime in the past and was now more or less completely insane. He worshipped animals and were convinced they were talking to him. He created a number of new druid spells that summoned force animals or gave real animals new powers. These included Energy Lemming, a 3rd level spell that gave electricity powers to rodents (and which I swear to Lonny was not based on a certain yellow Pokemon!) To fascilitate this, he carried around a miniature castle filled with lemming animal companions on his back. And, of course, I named all of them and gave them goofy names like Hastur and Helm. He was pretty funny at the time, but it's probably just as well that he died fairly quickly before his schtick got old.
epifreak 04-15-05, 12:35 AM	My strangest character was a druid/barbariarn named Torg Faunal. He suffered a head wound sometime in the past and was now more or less completely insane. He worshipped animals and were convinced they were talking to him. He created a number of new druid spells that summoned force animals or gave real animals new powers. These included Energy Lemming, a 3rd level spell that gave electricity powers to rodents (and which I swear to Lonny was not based on a certain yellow Pokemon!) To fascilitate this, he carried around a miniature castle filled with lemming animal companions on his back. And, of course, I named all of them and gave them goofy names like Hastur and Helm. He was pretty funny at the time, but it's probably just as well that he died fairly quickly before his schtick got old. Sounds like Minsc from Baulder's Gate. Anybody remember Minsc? Best.......character.....evar......
R-man 04-15-05, 03:51 AM	While playing GURPS my mage specializing in mind magic/possession magic, possessed his familier and then went and sat on our fighters shoulder. Our fighter had to go do "single combat" with an enemy warrior and wasn't allowed to gain the assistance of his friends. What I didn't know was that the arena was protected by a invisible shell that didn't allow magic to pass through it. My ally went into the arena and my connection with my body was instantly severed. Leaving me permanently in my familiers body. GURPS is a point based spellcasting system based on your Str as your Power point stat. My hawk familier had a 3 or 4 str score. I suddenly had to get very very creative with my spellcasting to be effective and not be going unconscience on a regular basis. I definately couldn't possess anyone again as the casting cost for Possession is 10 to cast and 10 per minute to maintain it, reduced to 8 and 8 due to very high caster level. I still ended up having a lot of fun playing my character for the rest of that campaign and I only had one regret... You see GURPS is a point based character creation system, I had paid points to take and design my familier and had "cheaped out" and not paid for one very important ability that I could have had for the very cheap price of 2 or 3 points. Speech!!!! :D :D :D
Gardun Battlehammer 04-15-05, 05:00 AM	Not the worst character but definitely the strangest and most unbalanced character that I ever played in a real campaign. Let me give you a short description of his life up to the points he died (for the last time): (Start: Character Background) Mord started off as a dwarven, peace-loving monk living in a secluded monastery in the mountains. One day when Mord was wondering about the forest he heard a great roar, looked up and saw his beloved monastery in flames, a red dragon circling about its burning spires, spewing flames at his fellow monks and burning them to cinders. Mord started running towards the monastery but his short, stubby legs cerried him there far too slow and when he arrived, all of his comrades where dead, the treasures gone and the food eaten. Unnacustomed to the hardships of the forest after his secluded youth he started wandering throgh the forest randomly. After a week or two he stumbled right into the perimeter-guard of a barbarian camp. The barbarians, intrigued by the sorry shape of tha dwarf - never before having seen them in anything but a peak fighting condition with bloolust in their eyes - took him in and nurtured him back to health. When, after a few weeks Mord told the barbarians that he wanted to leave them to find a town again, they laughhed at him, telling him that there were no towns within a hundred miles and that he would never survive the trip on his own. They could, however, offer him to follow their nomadic tribe and drop him off when they reached a point closer to civilization. Mord accepted the invitation and the time went on. When, after a few months, they had reached the vicinity of civilization, Mord didn't want to leave the barbarians, having grown accustomed to their free, natural life. He became one of them. Forty years later, all of the barbarians that Mord had met for the first time were dead and the new leader talked about war and raids on the newly spiring villages and hamlets of the region. After unsuccessfully trying to convince him that this was not a good idea, Mord left the tribe with great sadness in his heart. He instead went back to civilization, enlisting in a mercenaries' guild, trying to gather information on the dragon that had ruined his home and his friends so long ago. After searching and fighting his way across the area for a few years he once and for all decided that the trail had grown cold, however, the time spent amongst the professional warriors had not been a total waste of time since it had taught him to handle his weapons with an expertise neither the unarmed fighting of the monks or the brutal mayhem of the barbarians had managed to. (End: Background Story, Start: The Roleplaying Group Enters the Picture) He joined forces with a group of fellow mercenaries to gather riches and slay enemies. The Group consisted of: one shadowy rogue, presumably a rogue drow, one barbarian reincarnated as a wild boar, complete with armours spikes and all, an elven archer, a mage and of course Mord a Monk 1/ Brb 2/Ftr 1 wielding a warhammer. They set out searching and abandoned (or so it seemed) cave-complex that turned out to be the entrance into a major underdark tunnel-system. during these adventures Mord was killed a number of times in ways of being incinerated by a magical portal, falling 1500 ft through the same portal to his death on a dark lake, being crushed by a 200 ft (not kidding) long stone-spider golem with a grudge against dwarves. This chaos and fighting finally brought out the true berserker in Mord and he became a: FRENZIED BERSERKER!!! :) Due to his underlaying love for natural forces he also refused resurrestion per se and was reincarnated int the form of a hobgoblin, a human, a dwarf again and finally a kobold hearing this last form I finally thought I had an unplayable berserker with barely enough strength to lift his own weapon until the DM suddenly says: DM: "Oh, wait, I forgot to roll your 5% chance of getting a template (house-rule). *clatter, clatter* ME: Yea, like that's gonna happen... DM: "I'll be damned looks like you got one and it's *clatter clatter* A HALF DRAGON!?!!!?" ME: *Looking up with a huge grin on my face* DM: "HOOKAY, so you are now a half-kobold half-*clatter clatter*GOLD DRAGON!!?" ME: *Laughing Maniacally you realise that makes me a Kobold with golden scales and a Strength of 24???? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!* That was when things started getting unbalanced. Finally Mord ended up as a Winged (through strategic use of bought wishes), hald-dragon half-kobold Monk1/Barbarian2/Figther 4/Frenzied Berserker 8, with a potential strength of somewhere in the mid-forties, an intelligent warhammer with the ability to cast heal three times per day on its own accord (and it was agood thing that his hammer and Mord liked each other, otherwise things could have gone sour) and an ungodly fortitude save. Never mind the AC since frenzied bersekers have the neat ability of deathless frenzy (meaning you're just about immortal to physical punishment while in a frenzy, when it ends, well, let's just say that it's good to have a trusted warhammer capable of healing you close by ;)). The point of this character is not that it is the most unbalanced character I COULD make, believe me you don't want to see the fang of Lolth I secretly keep in store for my players but it is the most unbalanced character I have ever played over a longer period of time and none of the things that made him extreme were planned from the beginning - he was originally meant to be a grappler with a little rage up his sleeve - they just happened! And belive me, it was a load of fun playing a character plunging 4000 ft. - free-falling - right into the ground in the middle of a huge battlefield teeming with orcs, making a hige crater and throwing people off their feet, just to climb - laughing like a maniac - out of the smoldering hole, swinging an intelligent, chaotic, babbling warhammer down upon the terror-stricken orcs. Did I mention that he had plans or uniting all the kobolds of the sword coast in a gigantic kingdom under his own rule? Well, that's my story of the definitely most unbalanced character I have ever played in a normal campaign, hope you enjoyed it.
Gardun Battlehammer 04-26-05, 02:37 AM	*bump*
epifreak 04-26-05, 12:16 PM	And belive me, it was a load of fun playing a character plunging 4000 ft. - free-falling - right into the ground in the middle of a huge battlefield teeming with orcs, making a hige crater and throwing people off their feet, just to climb - laughing like a maniac - out of the smoldering hole, swinging an intelligent, chaotic, babbling warhammer down upon the terror-stricken orcs. +10 cool points to you. :D
Gardun Battlehammer 04-26-05, 04:08 PM	Thank you :bounce:
twad 04-26-05, 04:30 PM	I thought half-golem was a pretty dumb idea, but I dont know if it was actually published or just made up. it exist. Its not good-looking... more like muty-stupid looking.
Greyseed 04-26-05, 05:33 PM	The worst pc idea I saw was when I changed from a homebrew world to Eberron. The Player insisted on being able to try her Faen (Monte cook's Arcana unearthed) in Eberron. I said "If I do allow it, with your backround story and species, it's not going to work." She said "It'll work, I just have to be careful." Careful she was not. The Idea was she was a runaway slave. Her species resembling a Fey-halfling that can optionally become smaller airborne and more pixie-like later in life. (around 3rd level or so.) Her old master collected her and her kind from Xen'drik and used them as servants, and attractions. In her backstory she made sure that she ****** him off before she escaped. Now, this is the big thing here. I told her ahead of time that we would be using Reputation from Unearthed arcana. She wanted to be a (wait for it,) BARD. So the slave hiding out would be the most public of all classes. Then she got arrested, and exiled from Sharn for three months. (She called in a few favors for that.) With her picture up and around the city gates, and making a name for herself, he sent and agent to capture her. The party was so sick of the pixie-thing being incompetent and stealing from them that they gave her up to the agent.