Any News on a THIRD D&D Movie? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Any News on a THIRD D&D Movie? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Upper_Krust
05-10-07, 07:47 PM Hey everyone! :)

I just watched the second D&D movie on television (here in the UK) a few days ago and I was wondering if there have been any developments on a third movie?

Are WotC going to announce anything about it at Gencon?

I really liked the second movie, bags of charm and lots of D&D-isms.

Anybody know anymore?
MHolland
05-10-07, 07:48 PM I knew about the animated film but I haven't heard any news about a 3rd live action film.
Novacat
05-10-07, 08:00 PM Hey everyone! :)

I just watched the second D&D movie on television (here in the UK) a few days ago and I was wondering if there have been any developments on a third movie?

Are WotC going to announce anything about it at Gencon?

I really liked the second movie, bags of charm and lots of D&D-isms.

Anybody know anymore?
Dear merciful Pelor, I hope not.
Lina_Inverse
05-11-07, 12:34 AM Dear merciful Pelor, I hope not.

#2 wasn't bad.
Birmy
05-11-07, 12:46 AM Wait... there's an animated movie in the works? Link/source please.

If I were them, I'd wait 10 years or more and let the back-taint of the first movie wear off, then try to relaunch it as an A-list fantasy franchise with no connections at all to the previous films (while agree that "Wrath of the Dragon God" wasn't bad, it wasn't hard to go anywhere but up after the first one).
Shadowhowler
05-11-07, 12:50 AM Yeh... I thought the second one was allright.

Hands down better then the first.

Tho, as the above poster mentioned, that was not hard.
Dougan Axehammer
05-11-07, 01:00 AM #2 wasn't bad.
I agree. As opposed to the original, it actually showed a world that our characters might adventure in. They had a party of five characters and didn't focus on any one member; it felt like each character filled an equal role. We saw the spells, items, and creatures as the characters would see them; the detail even allowed us to identify what we would use in-game. The only things lacking from the movie, the things that might allow it to be on par with mainstream, were good dialogue and plotline. For a legitimate adaptation of the game, this movie wasn't bad (and even worthy of the 'Dungeons and Dragons' title.)
tridiak
05-11-07, 02:06 AM God I hope not. The other two were crap.
navar100
05-11-07, 02:36 AM I hope not as well. First one was garbage. Second one wasn't as bad but too obvious. If you didn't know the game you wouldn't understand the dialogue. If you know the game, it was too much metagame talk. Nitpick: It felt more like a 1e/2e movie than a 3e movie.
Netak
05-11-07, 03:24 AM Woaw:) Is there really a second one? I only thought there was the one with Ridley and Snales, the two thiefs:)
Mindolin
05-11-07, 08:56 AM There is a second one, Wrath of the Dragon God.

Now, the third is not quite as much of a pure Dungeons and Dragons movie, it is actually an animated movie based off of the novel "Dragons of Autumn Twilight", making it a Dragonlance movie. They've got people like Lucy Lawless providing the voice of Goldmoon, and I believe Kiether Sutherland as Raistlin. You can check it out over on wikipedia.
CzarGarrett
05-11-07, 09:34 AM There is a second one, Wrath of the Dragon God.

Now, the third is not quite as much of a pure Dungeons and Dragons movie, it is actually an animated movie based off of the novel "Dragons of Autumn Twilight", making it a Dragonlance movie. They've got people like Lucy Lawless providing the voice of Goldmoon, and I believe Kiether Sutherland as Raistlin. You can check it out over on wikipedia.

Indeed.

The 1st movie tried to be D&D too hard. Plus the storyline was attrocious, the graphics abysmal, and acting horrendous.

The 2nd movie used D&D ideas without actually saying them. It was much more subtle, plus it had competent actors/actresses and a half decent storyline.

The Dragonlance movie, which has been "in the works" for at least a year now, seems to be on schedule for a early summer 2008 release (my guess anyway).
Zousha_Omenohu
05-11-07, 09:34 AM Yes, that's correct. Keifer Sutherland will be voicing Raistlin.
ElberethSilverleaf
05-12-07, 09:18 PM PLEASE NO!!!
They've all been pure garbage! (although the 2nd was nominally better than the first)
cat_god
05-12-07, 11:35 PM I'd watch it. I really liked the second one. The first one sucked. However, I still bought it. Go figure.
Shadowhowler
05-13-07, 03:50 AM There is a second one, Wrath of the Dragon God.

Now, the third is not quite as much of a pure Dungeons and Dragons movie, it is actually an animated movie based off of the novel "Dragons of Autumn Twilight", making it a Dragonlance movie. They've got people like Lucy Lawless providing the voice of Goldmoon, and I believe Kiether Sutherland as Raistlin. You can check it out over on wikipedia.

Hm...

I would be intrested in seeing that...
_SIN_
05-13-07, 10:33 AM A third D&D movie?

Well... They do say bad things happen in 3's!
MHolland
05-13-07, 11:24 AM A third D&D movie?

Well... They do say bad things happen in 3's!

Don't count the animated movie as the 3rd D&D movie because it is not. It has nothing to do with the other films. It is an animated movie based on Dragonlance with a top notched animation studio and some of the best actors/voice actors in the business. To include this new movie with the other two and then doom it as such would be a silly thing to do.
_SIN_
05-13-07, 01:34 PM They set it in DL. It's as good as doomed for me anyhow. Though I shall hope it will be worth watching, but if the other 2 productions they've done are anything to go by, it'll be lame. And considering most of the DL books (IMO) were unreadable by anyone aged 12+, the cartoon'll suck too.

My fingers are crossed that something good will rise out of the DARK, DARK shadow of D&D's movie past! lol
protonik
05-13-07, 01:37 PM Indeed.

The 1st movie tried to be D&D too hard. Plus the storyline was attrocious, the graphics abysmal, and acting horrendous.

The 2nd movie used D&D ideas without actually saying them. It was much more subtle, plus it had competent actors/actresses and a half decent storyline.

The Dragonlance movie, which has been "in the works" for at least a year now, seems to be on schedule for a early summer 2008 release (my guess anyway).

I'll grant the story was bad but the acting was "ok" outside of the "name" actors, who WERE bad. The CGI though was pretty good and the design was very nice. The problem was it was TOO saturated so the colours were too bright when they should have been more dulled out.

The second movie had dialogue issues, instead of referring to characters by name it was their profession for example. I think the dialogue in the second one was worse than the first!

The DL movie has been in the works for MORE than a year and was announced back BEFORE the first D&D movie was announced!
protonik
05-13-07, 01:42 PM I'd watch it. I really liked the second one. The first one sucked. However, I still bought it. Go figure.

Don't watch it, it gets addicting. I watched it every day for a month... I couldn't bring myself to take it out. It's cursed.

Then again I was drinking pretty heavily then as well. I may have just been being lazy.
FRRC
05-13-07, 06:19 PM I think the second movie, from the 15 minutes I saw of it, used too much DnD lingo. There was just too much mention of things that only the fans would get. Yes, it was for the fans, but it should have tried to at least cater or clue in non-fans on what the characters are talking about.
Kojiro James
05-13-07, 11:49 PM Hey everyone! :)

I just watched the second D&D movie on television (here in the UK) a few days ago and I was wondering if there have been any developments on a third movie?

Are WotC going to announce anything about it at Gencon?

I really liked the second movie, bags of charm and lots of D&D-isms.

Anybody know anymore?

God forbid.
AbleTruestrike
05-14-07, 08:00 AM From what I'v heard the DL movie is out in Autumn, suprisingly enough.

Also the DL series are a good setting for a film I'd say!
ElberethSilverleaf
05-14-07, 02:08 PM The DL setting in the original 3 books is a good starting point.

But a movie is only as good as the script, plot, directors and actors.
Treated in the right way it could be a good movie, but even with great actors you can get a crapfest. (Rain of Fire)
Joe Khol
05-14-07, 03:40 PM Yeh... I thought the second one was allright.

Hands down better then the first.Only in the same way that being shot in the leg is better than being shot in the face. :P

The Dragonlance film sounds like it has more potential - it already has a half-decent plot behind it, animation eliminates the problem of third rate effects and, unlike the other two, they appear to be spending money on actual actors.
EllorKataan
05-14-07, 03:46 PM Hey everyone! :)

I just watched the second D&D movie on television (here in the UK) a few days ago and I was wondering if there have been any developments on a third movie?

Are WotC going to announce anything about it at Gencon?

I really liked the second movie, bags of charm and lots of D&D-isms.

Anybody know anymore?

Not "D&D-isms", Greyhawk-isms. ;)
Nived
05-14-07, 03:54 PM The Dragonlance movie is almost finished. The projected release date is September 2007, featuring such voice talent as Phil Lamar (As Riverwind and Gilthanas), Michael Rosenbaum, (as Tanis), Lucy Lawless (as Goldmoon), and Keifer Sutherland (as Raistlin).

Yeah Jack Bauer is voicing Raist.

You can learn more info on this this animated adaption of Dragons of the Autumn Twilight at its official site (http://www.dragonlance-movie.com/), or IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0825245/)
Templetroll
05-14-07, 05:54 PM Courtney Solomon has the rights to D&D movies. He directed the first, based on his own campaign world :eek: which sucked and produced but did not get directly involved with the direction of the second which was a decent fantasy movie using some D&D features.

This was the production involved in the first D&D film. Production Companies
Behaviour Worldwide
MDP Worldwide
Silver Pictures
Station X Studios LLC
Stillking Films
Sweetpea Entertainment

This was the second

Production Companies
Skyline Films (as Skyline Dungeon & Dragons Ltd.)
Studio Hamburg WorldWide Pictures
Sweetpea Entertainment (as Sweetpea BVI Ltd.)
Zinc Entertainment Inc.

The Dragonlance animated feature http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0825245/ is NOT being done by Courtney Solomon so it has a chance to be reasonably entertaining.

The Dragonlance film is being done by

Production Companies
Commotion Pictures
Epic Level Entertainment
Toonz Animation India
Witox

That being said, it still is afflicted by the Hollywood aversion to depictions of religion - the plot outline reads A barbarian woman with a miraculous healing staff gains the help of a group of to-be heroes as an army of dragons invades the land.

As the clerics in the second D&D movie could not heal or raise dead so in the Dragonlance movie there might be use of spells by Evil clerics but any healing miracles will be due to an item.

We'll see how they do.
protonik
05-14-07, 08:03 PM Solomon does NOT own the D&D movie rights, Joel Silver does. It was no more based on his home campaign than Icewind Dale was based on Salvatore's home campaign! Solomon is actually a good director but he talks a lot about how his hands were tied on the movie because of the contracts with Lorraine Williams who essentially killed what would have been a decent script to work with in the movie.

Also, have you even READ the Dragonlance Chronicles? What you describe is EXACTLY what happens in the novels. Riverwind finds a blue crystal staff while he was banished from his homelands. He was in the dungeons of Xak Tsaroth (correct me on this one if wrong) and finds the staff and when he touches it it takes him to Goldmoon. The companions eventually return to those dungeons to help Goldmoon find the secret of the staff and discover the Plates of Mishakal, goddess of healing and these events herald the return of the gods.
ElberethSilverleaf
05-14-07, 10:12 PM The only aspect I despise about Dragonlance is Hickman's sneaking in his mormonist myths into the tales.
protonik
05-14-07, 11:19 PM The only aspect I despise about Dragonlance is Hickman's sneaking in his mormonist myths into the tales.

What do you mean? Mormonism might not be historically accurate (and under close scrutiny none of the four major religions appear to have historical veracity so try to be polite and not attack religions on a public messageboard meant for other topics, it's trolling) but they have some powerful stories and the Mormon stories have been used for some great fantasy and sci-fi like Battlestar Galactica (original series). There is nothing wrong with using religious folklore to create fantastic stories and most people are probably unaware of anything being Mormon in Dragonlance.
ElberethSilverleaf
05-15-07, 03:12 PM Ah but your reference to BG implies that you have noticed the same things I have correct?
Birmy
05-15-07, 03:43 PM Hmm, interesting. Mormon themes? I was very young when I read Dragonlance (Chronicles, Legends, and a few assorted stand-alones) and wasn't in a position to noticed such things. Care to elaborate?
The Equalizer
05-15-07, 04:16 PM I read some of the Dragonlance books, don't remember which ones, and absolutely despised the grammar. They need to find a new proof reader or something. Those mistakes, which many of them are very common in rough drafts, should not have made it into the books. That totally turned me off of the series, the same way that it did with forgotten realms.

Though these big name actors and actresses might make the movie a worthwhile experience for me. I hope that such unprofessional errors as were in the book are not in this new movie, as I am looking forward to a good fantasy.

The DND movies were a pretty big dissapointment for me, too. Though the second one was far better than the first. I disliked the use of the metgame style dialogue in the second one. Though I have only seen the last half of the movie.

Let us hope that if they do make a new DND movie, it has a better budget, or atleast a better storyline and actors, or is a better movie all together than the first two. I heard that
"300" was a low budget movie, but is amazingly popular. Atleast that is what I've heard. Haven't seen it yet.
ElberethSilverleaf
05-15-07, 04:54 PM Hmm, interesting. Mormon themes? I was very young when I read Dragonlance (Chronicles, Legends, and a few assorted stand-alones) and wasn't in a position to noticed such things. Care to elaborate?

Try reading these:
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/zimriel/RPG/altDL3.html

http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Legends-Dragonlance-Chronicles/dp/0786929928

(Positives: Margaret Weis (although used minimally in the annotations) always has something useful to contribute. Her insights enhance the depth of these well-loved characters. Additionally, Michael Williams' notes on the poetry of "Legends" are also entertaining, although he does occasionally suffer from bouts of egotism.

Negatives: In a word (or I should say, proper name), Tracy Raye Hickman. I'm sorry, but if I have to hear one more pompous comparison to the Christian Bible, I'll scream! Mr. Hickman is a Mormon, and he takes every opportunity to point this out to the reader in his annotations. If I may, sir, your god is not everyone's god, and we're quite happy with standard fantasy convention, which is almost universally polytheistic.

When I heard the disaster he and Ms. Weis inflicted on Krynn with the "War of Souls" trilogy, I knew I wouldn't allow myself to look at it, but after all of Mr. Hickman's sermonizing in the "Annotated Legends" I will now not allow myself to come within 300 feet of said trilogy.

I'm sick of hearing that the "High God" is the only god of Krynn and that Paladine, Takhisis, Gilean, etc. are merely... what? Poseurs? False gods? Please! This is a fantasy novel, not a religous text! Some of us quite enjoy the pantheon the way it is. These gods take a "hands-off" approach and let the character's take center stage. Not one of the heroes is the slave to some omnipotent god (although they are frequently a slave to their own needs and desires, as it should be).

And I'm thoroughly revolted by Mr. Hickman's need to revile the D&D role-playing game with the constant "...I can hear the dice rolling" comments, and the overwhelming need to divest himself from the novel's roots. I bought the first paperback because TSR was doing what so many of us RPG'ers wanted for so long (novels with a background in D&D). I looked forward to seeing references to things like "Magic Missile" spells and different types of dragons. You made it quite clear in Annotated Chronicles that the novels and modules parted ways with "Dragons of Winter Night," but the point doesn't need to be hammered home repeatedly (especially in the first half of Annotated Legends).

And let's not forget the constant TSR bashing... I've worked in the corporate environment before, and I know it's not pleasant, but if it wasn't for TSR, you and your fellow authors may not be in the careers you feel you so self-righteously deserve.

Last, and certainly most disappointing, is the content of the annotations. When Mr. Hickman isn't going off on some religious tangent, the annotations consist mainly of references to his and Ms. Weis' other works ("...the events Tas is referring to can be found in "Dragons of Winter Night", etc.). I think this is more the editor's fault than anyone, but it should be assumed that the average new reader of Dragonlance will not pick up "Legends" by itself. They've most likely read "Chronicles." I found myself thinking, "Yes, I know Raistlin & company did magic and other acts for money in 'Dragons of Spring Dawning', so say something useful now!"

Conclusion: If you're looking to replace your lost or care-worn copies of the "Legends" series, by all means, buy this book, but if you're expecting great insights on the trilogy, you might want to skip this one. How about re-releasing this book, but with annotations only by Margaret Weis and, say (local Pittsburgher) Jeff Grubb? Now THAT will be worthwhile reading!)

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/archive/index.php/t-77866.html
(BookwyrmMarch 1, 2004, 06:46 PM
With my name I'm Seven Daquan, which makes me wonder whether I have Mormon brethren named One through Six Daquan.

Middle name and mothers maiden name give me Jamieson Chevrollette, which makes me sound like a car.

Originally posted by Sarpedon
Caramon Brockston

Strange that they would name me after a Dragonlance (tm) character...

Not so strange that a name generator intended to come up with Mormon-ish names would come up with a name from Dragonlance when you consider that Tracy Hickman, who was heavily involved in the creation of the setting and the Company of the Lance, is a member of that faith.)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Upper_Krust 05-10-07, 07:47 PM	Hey everyone! :) I just watched the second D&D movie on television (here in the UK) a few days ago and I was wondering if there have been any developments on a third movie? Are WotC going to announce anything about it at Gencon? I really liked the second movie, bags of charm and lots of D&D-isms. Anybody know anymore?
MHolland 05-10-07, 07:48 PM	I knew about the animated film but I haven't heard any news about a 3rd live action film.
Novacat 05-10-07, 08:00 PM	Hey everyone! :) I just watched the second D&D movie on television (here in the UK) a few days ago and I was wondering if there have been any developments on a third movie? Are WotC going to announce anything about it at Gencon? I really liked the second movie, bags of charm and lots of D&D-isms. Anybody know anymore? Dear merciful Pelor, I hope not.
Lina_Inverse 05-11-07, 12:34 AM	Dear merciful Pelor, I hope not. #2 wasn't bad.
Birmy 05-11-07, 12:46 AM	Wait... there's an animated movie in the works? Link/source please. If I were them, I'd wait 10 years or more and let the back-taint of the first movie wear off, then try to relaunch it as an A-list fantasy franchise with no connections at all to the previous films (while agree that "Wrath of the Dragon God" wasn't bad, it wasn't hard to go anywhere but up after the first one).
Shadowhowler 05-11-07, 12:50 AM	Yeh... I thought the second one was allright. Hands down better then the first. Tho, as the above poster mentioned, that was not hard.
Dougan Axehammer 05-11-07, 01:00 AM	#2 wasn't bad. I agree. As opposed to the original, it actually showed a world that our characters might adventure in. They had a party of five characters and didn't focus on any one member; it felt like each character filled an equal role. We saw the spells, items, and creatures as the characters would see them; the detail even allowed us to identify what we would use in-game. The only things lacking from the movie, the things that might allow it to be on par with mainstream, were good dialogue and plotline. For a legitimate adaptation of the game, this movie wasn't bad (and even worthy of the 'Dungeons and Dragons' title.)
tridiak 05-11-07, 02:06 AM	God I hope not. The other two were crap.
navar100 05-11-07, 02:36 AM	I hope not as well. First one was garbage. Second one wasn't as bad but too obvious. If you didn't know the game you wouldn't understand the dialogue. If you know the game, it was too much metagame talk. Nitpick: It felt more like a 1e/2e movie than a 3e movie.
Netak 05-11-07, 03:24 AM	Woaw:) Is there really a second one? I only thought there was the one with Ridley and Snales, the two thiefs:)
Mindolin 05-11-07, 08:56 AM	There is a second one, Wrath of the Dragon God. Now, the third is not quite as much of a pure Dungeons and Dragons movie, it is actually an animated movie based off of the novel "Dragons of Autumn Twilight", making it a Dragonlance movie. They've got people like Lucy Lawless providing the voice of Goldmoon, and I believe Kiether Sutherland as Raistlin. You can check it out over on wikipedia.
CzarGarrett 05-11-07, 09:34 AM	There is a second one, Wrath of the Dragon God. Now, the third is not quite as much of a pure Dungeons and Dragons movie, it is actually an animated movie based off of the novel "Dragons of Autumn Twilight", making it a Dragonlance movie. They've got people like Lucy Lawless providing the voice of Goldmoon, and I believe Kiether Sutherland as Raistlin. You can check it out over on wikipedia. Indeed. The 1st movie tried to be D&D too hard. Plus the storyline was attrocious, the graphics abysmal, and acting horrendous. The 2nd movie used D&D ideas without actually saying them. It was much more subtle, plus it had competent actors/actresses and a half decent storyline. The Dragonlance movie, which has been "in the works" for at least a year now, seems to be on schedule for a early summer 2008 release (my guess anyway).
Zousha_Omenohu 05-11-07, 09:34 AM	Yes, that's correct. Keifer Sutherland will be voicing Raistlin.
ElberethSilverleaf 05-12-07, 09:18 PM	PLEASE NO!!! They've all been pure garbage! (although the 2nd was nominally better than the first)
cat_god 05-12-07, 11:35 PM	I'd watch it. I really liked the second one. The first one sucked. However, I still bought it. Go figure.
Shadowhowler 05-13-07, 03:50 AM	There is a second one, Wrath of the Dragon God. Now, the third is not quite as much of a pure Dungeons and Dragons movie, it is actually an animated movie based off of the novel "Dragons of Autumn Twilight", making it a Dragonlance movie. They've got people like Lucy Lawless providing the voice of Goldmoon, and I believe Kiether Sutherland as Raistlin. You can check it out over on wikipedia. Hm... I would be intrested in seeing that...
_SIN_ 05-13-07, 10:33 AM	A third D&D movie? Well... They do say bad things happen in 3's!
MHolland 05-13-07, 11:24 AM	A third D&D movie? Well... They do say bad things happen in 3's! Don't count the animated movie as the 3rd D&D movie because it is not. It has nothing to do with the other films. It is an animated movie based on Dragonlance with a top notched animation studio and some of the best actors/voice actors in the business. To include this new movie with the other two and then doom it as such would be a silly thing to do.
_SIN_ 05-13-07, 01:34 PM	They set it in DL. It's as good as doomed for me anyhow. Though I shall hope it will be worth watching, but if the other 2 productions they've done are anything to go by, it'll be lame. And considering most of the DL books (IMO) were unreadable by anyone aged 12+, the cartoon'll suck too. My fingers are crossed that something good will rise out of the DARK, DARK shadow of D&D's movie past! lol
protonik 05-13-07, 01:37 PM	Indeed. The 1st movie tried to be D&D too hard. Plus the storyline was attrocious, the graphics abysmal, and acting horrendous. The 2nd movie used D&D ideas without actually saying them. It was much more subtle, plus it had competent actors/actresses and a half decent storyline. The Dragonlance movie, which has been "in the works" for at least a year now, seems to be on schedule for a early summer 2008 release (my guess anyway). I'll grant the story was bad but the acting was "ok" outside of the "name" actors, who WERE bad. The CGI though was pretty good and the design was very nice. The problem was it was TOO saturated so the colours were too bright when they should have been more dulled out. The second movie had dialogue issues, instead of referring to characters by name it was their profession for example. I think the dialogue in the second one was worse than the first! The DL movie has been in the works for MORE than a year and was announced back BEFORE the first D&D movie was announced!
protonik 05-13-07, 01:42 PM	I'd watch it. I really liked the second one. The first one sucked. However, I still bought it. Go figure. Don't watch it, it gets addicting. I watched it every day for a month... I couldn't bring myself to take it out. It's cursed. Then again I was drinking pretty heavily then as well. I may have just been being lazy.
FRRC 05-13-07, 06:19 PM	I think the second movie, from the 15 minutes I saw of it, used too much DnD lingo. There was just too much mention of things that only the fans would get. Yes, it was for the fans, but it should have tried to at least cater or clue in non-fans on what the characters are talking about.
Kojiro James 05-13-07, 11:49 PM	Hey everyone! :) I just watched the second D&D movie on television (here in the UK) a few days ago and I was wondering if there have been any developments on a third movie? Are WotC going to announce anything about it at Gencon? I really liked the second movie, bags of charm and lots of D&D-isms. Anybody know anymore? God forbid.
AbleTruestrike 05-14-07, 08:00 AM	From what I'v heard the DL movie is out in Autumn, suprisingly enough. Also the DL series are a good setting for a film I'd say!
ElberethSilverleaf 05-14-07, 02:08 PM	The DL setting in the original 3 books is a good starting point. But a movie is only as good as the script, plot, directors and actors. Treated in the right way it could be a good movie, but even with great actors you can get a crapfest. (Rain of Fire)
Joe Khol 05-14-07, 03:40 PM	Yeh... I thought the second one was allright. Hands down better then the first.Only in the same way that being shot in the leg is better than being shot in the face. :P The Dragonlance film sounds like it has more potential - it already has a half-decent plot behind it, animation eliminates the problem of third rate effects and, unlike the other two, they appear to be spending money on actual actors.
EllorKataan 05-14-07, 03:46 PM	Hey everyone! :) I just watched the second D&D movie on television (here in the UK) a few days ago and I was wondering if there have been any developments on a third movie? Are WotC going to announce anything about it at Gencon? I really liked the second movie, bags of charm and lots of D&D-isms. Anybody know anymore? Not "D&D-isms", Greyhawk-isms. ;)
Nived 05-14-07, 03:54 PM	The Dragonlance movie is almost finished. The projected release date is September 2007, featuring such voice talent as Phil Lamar (As Riverwind and Gilthanas), Michael Rosenbaum, (as Tanis), Lucy Lawless (as Goldmoon), and Keifer Sutherland (as Raistlin). Yeah Jack Bauer is voicing Raist. You can learn more info on this this animated adaption of Dragons of the Autumn Twilight at its official site (http://www.dragonlance-movie.com/), or IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0825245/)
Templetroll 05-14-07, 05:54 PM	Courtney Solomon has the rights to D&D movies. He directed the first, based on his own campaign world :eek: which sucked and produced but did not get directly involved with the direction of the second which was a decent fantasy movie using some D&D features. This was the production involved in the first D&D film. Production Companies Behaviour Worldwide MDP Worldwide Silver Pictures Station X Studios LLC Stillking Films Sweetpea Entertainment This was the second Production Companies Skyline Films (as Skyline Dungeon & Dragons Ltd.) Studio Hamburg WorldWide Pictures Sweetpea Entertainment (as Sweetpea BVI Ltd.) Zinc Entertainment Inc. The Dragonlance animated feature http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0825245/ is NOT being done by Courtney Solomon so it has a chance to be reasonably entertaining. The Dragonlance film is being done by Production Companies Commotion Pictures Epic Level Entertainment Toonz Animation India Witox That being said, it still is afflicted by the Hollywood aversion to depictions of religion - the plot outline reads A barbarian woman with a miraculous healing staff gains the help of a group of to-be heroes as an army of dragons invades the land. As the clerics in the second D&D movie could not heal or raise dead so in the Dragonlance movie there might be use of spells by Evil clerics but any healing miracles will be due to an item. We'll see how they do.
protonik 05-14-07, 08:03 PM	Solomon does NOT own the D&D movie rights, Joel Silver does. It was no more based on his home campaign than Icewind Dale was based on Salvatore's home campaign! Solomon is actually a good director but he talks a lot about how his hands were tied on the movie because of the contracts with Lorraine Williams who essentially killed what would have been a decent script to work with in the movie. Also, have you even READ the Dragonlance Chronicles? What you describe is EXACTLY what happens in the novels. Riverwind finds a blue crystal staff while he was banished from his homelands. He was in the dungeons of Xak Tsaroth (correct me on this one if wrong) and finds the staff and when he touches it it takes him to Goldmoon. The companions eventually return to those dungeons to help Goldmoon find the secret of the staff and discover the Plates of Mishakal, goddess of healing and these events herald the return of the gods.
ElberethSilverleaf 05-14-07, 10:12 PM	The only aspect I despise about Dragonlance is Hickman's sneaking in his mormonist myths into the tales.
protonik 05-14-07, 11:19 PM	The only aspect I despise about Dragonlance is Hickman's sneaking in his mormonist myths into the tales. What do you mean? Mormonism might not be historically accurate (and under close scrutiny none of the four major religions appear to have historical veracity so try to be polite and not attack religions on a public messageboard meant for other topics, it's trolling) but they have some powerful stories and the Mormon stories have been used for some great fantasy and sci-fi like Battlestar Galactica (original series). There is nothing wrong with using religious folklore to create fantastic stories and most people are probably unaware of anything being Mormon in Dragonlance.
ElberethSilverleaf 05-15-07, 03:12 PM	Ah but your reference to BG implies that you have noticed the same things I have correct?
Birmy 05-15-07, 03:43 PM	Hmm, interesting. Mormon themes? I was very young when I read Dragonlance (Chronicles, Legends, and a few assorted stand-alones) and wasn't in a position to noticed such things. Care to elaborate?
The Equalizer 05-15-07, 04:16 PM	I read some of the Dragonlance books, don't remember which ones, and absolutely despised the grammar. They need to find a new proof reader or something. Those mistakes, which many of them are very common in rough drafts, should not have made it into the books. That totally turned me off of the series, the same way that it did with forgotten realms. Though these big name actors and actresses might make the movie a worthwhile experience for me. I hope that such unprofessional errors as were in the book are not in this new movie, as I am looking forward to a good fantasy. The DND movies were a pretty big dissapointment for me, too. Though the second one was far better than the first. I disliked the use of the metgame style dialogue in the second one. Though I have only seen the last half of the movie. Let us hope that if they do make a new DND movie, it has a better budget, or atleast a better storyline and actors, or is a better movie all together than the first two. I heard that "300" was a low budget movie, but is amazingly popular. Atleast that is what I've heard. Haven't seen it yet.
ElberethSilverleaf 05-15-07, 04:54 PM	Hmm, interesting. Mormon themes? I was very young when I read Dragonlance (Chronicles, Legends, and a few assorted stand-alones) and wasn't in a position to noticed such things. Care to elaborate? Try reading these: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/zimriel/RPG/altDL3.html http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Legends-Dragonlance-Chronicles/dp/0786929928 (Positives: Margaret Weis (although used minimally in the annotations) always has something useful to contribute. Her insights enhance the depth of these well-loved characters. Additionally, Michael Williams' notes on the poetry of "Legends" are also entertaining, although he does occasionally suffer from bouts of egotism. Negatives: In a word (or I should say, proper name), Tracy Raye Hickman. I'm sorry, but if I have to hear one more pompous comparison to the Christian Bible, I'll scream! Mr. Hickman is a Mormon, and he takes every opportunity to point this out to the reader in his annotations. If I may, sir, your god is not everyone's god, and we're quite happy with standard fantasy convention, which is almost universally polytheistic. When I heard the disaster he and Ms. Weis inflicted on Krynn with the "War of Souls" trilogy, I knew I wouldn't allow myself to look at it, but after all of Mr. Hickman's sermonizing in the "Annotated Legends" I will now not allow myself to come within 300 feet of said trilogy. I'm sick of hearing that the "High God" is the only god of Krynn and that Paladine, Takhisis, Gilean, etc. are merely... what? Poseurs? False gods? Please! This is a fantasy novel, not a religous text! Some of us quite enjoy the pantheon the way it is. These gods take a "hands-off" approach and let the character's take center stage. Not one of the heroes is the slave to some omnipotent god (although they are frequently a slave to their own needs and desires, as it should be). And I'm thoroughly revolted by Mr. Hickman's need to revile the D&D role-playing game with the constant "...I can hear the dice rolling" comments, and the overwhelming need to divest himself from the novel's roots. I bought the first paperback because TSR was doing what so many of us RPG'ers wanted for so long (novels with a background in D&D). I looked forward to seeing references to things like "Magic Missile" spells and different types of dragons. You made it quite clear in Annotated Chronicles that the novels and modules parted ways with "Dragons of Winter Night," but the point doesn't need to be hammered home repeatedly (especially in the first half of Annotated Legends). And let's not forget the constant TSR bashing... I've worked in the corporate environment before, and I know it's not pleasant, but if it wasn't for TSR, you and your fellow authors may not be in the careers you feel you so self-righteously deserve. Last, and certainly most disappointing, is the content of the annotations. When Mr. Hickman isn't going off on some religious tangent, the annotations consist mainly of references to his and Ms. Weis' other works ("...the events Tas is referring to can be found in "Dragons of Winter Night", etc.). I think this is more the editor's fault than anyone, but it should be assumed that the average new reader of Dragonlance will not pick up "Legends" by itself. They've most likely read "Chronicles." I found myself thinking, "Yes, I know Raistlin & company did magic and other acts for money in 'Dragons of Spring Dawning', so say something useful now!" Conclusion: If you're looking to replace your lost or care-worn copies of the "Legends" series, by all means, buy this book, but if you're expecting great insights on the trilogy, you might want to skip this one. How about re-releasing this book, but with annotations only by Margaret Weis and, say (local Pittsburgher) Jeff Grubb? Now THAT will be worthwhile reading!) http://www.iidb.org/vbb/archive/index.php/t-77866.html (BookwyrmMarch 1, 2004, 06:46 PM With my name I'm Seven Daquan, which makes me wonder whether I have Mormon brethren named One through Six Daquan. Middle name and mothers maiden name give me Jamieson Chevrollette, which makes me sound like a car. Originally posted by Sarpedon Caramon Brockston Strange that they would name me after a Dragonlance (tm) character... Not so strange that a name generator intended to come up with Mormon-ish names would come up with a name from Dragonlance when you consider that Tracy Hickman, who was heavily involved in the creation of the setting and the Company of the Lance, is a member of that faith.)