anyone still play 3.0 [Archive] - Wizards Community

anyone still play 3.0 [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
kasthevampire
08-18-04, 04:47 PM i got my 3.0 books as birthday gifts in november. soon after 3.5 came out. well i wish i knew about that then i would have got 3.5 and i'm not running out to borders and buying another 90 dollars worth of books.
Palin the Wizard
08-18-04, 05:01 PM There are plenty of people who still play 3.0.
kasthevampire
08-18-04, 05:03 PM if you ask me 3.0 is fine there aren't so many changes to the rules that makes it worth 90 more bucks
Palin the Wizard
08-18-04, 05:07 PM You don't have to pay the 90 bucks. All the rules (with a few exceptions) is available for free, in the SRD. So you can play 3.5, even with 3.0 rulebooks.
kasthevampire
08-18-04, 05:09 PM srd what is that
GreyLord
08-18-04, 05:10 PM Originally posted by Palin the Wizard
You don't have to pay the 90 bucks. All the rules (with a few exceptions) is available for free, in the SRD. So you can play 3.5, even with 3.0 rulebooks.

Exactly...all you have to do is update a few rules to 3.5 D&D.

Here's the link

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35

(I think I've posted this link now so many times I've lost count!)
DungeonMaster
08-18-04, 07:45 PM Many people still play 3rd edition. Many people prefer 3rd edition to 3.5, myself included. My suggestion since you havn't been playing for long is to use the books you have and after playing the game for awhile read the 3.5 SRD and see if you like the changes they made. Right now there's little to no reason for you to rush out and buy 3.5 core books.
If you find a DM running a 3.5 game then you might one day want a copy of the 3.5 PHB but even then you can probably manage with your 3rd edition PHB and the SRD.

Happy gaming!
kasthevampire
08-18-04, 07:50 PM yes i looked at some 3.5 stuff and i preffer 3.0 and is there really need for another monster manual lol
DungeonMaster
08-18-04, 08:03 PM :tiphat:

Honestly if you have the 3rd edition core books and you are really interested in spending 90 bucks on more books you can pick up a slew of great 3rd edition books with that money. Deities and demigods, the manual of the planes, the stronghold builder's guidebook and oriental adventures are among my favorites. The monster manual II is quite good overall or save yourself some time and effort and try a campaign setting like the forgotten realms campaign setting or kingdoms of kalamar.
Dizmoo
08-19-04, 04:42 AM I have the 3.0 PHb and the 3.5 DMG and MM, can't be bothered to buy a new PHb
Palin the Wizard
08-19-04, 04:49 AM I advise you to play 3.5e. It's the newest version, and all forthcoming material will be 3.5e.
Kilamar
08-19-04, 06:41 AM There is no problem using 3.5 splatbooks with 3.0 if you really need them.

Kilamar
Mindflayeran
08-19-04, 08:32 AM I still play 3.0 also. I use 3.5 books that i obtain in it. the differences aren't enough to warrant me spending the money. mainly you have to watch out for the spell and class changed, imo, since that is where the greatest difference is.
kasthevampire
08-19-04, 09:31 AM i have complete warrior and i was fine using it just a few questions is all i had:D
Lord Stigius
08-19-04, 09:46 AM I am still using 3ed, and not going to change it, at least not until we finish the current campaign (heh... 3 years already, hope it will last some next 3). But I've got the 3,5 SRD and we use some new feats (basically, those giving +2 to 2 skils, instead of old Skill focus ). Also, when I started that campaign, I introduced some house rules. They turned out to be quite similar to those introduced in 3,5 (paladins smiting more often at higher levels, Haste allowing bonus attack, but no bonus spells, reduced chance of armor spell failure for bards are examples).

I'm not going to buy 'modernized' core books, only those containing some new material. It realy requires little thinking to adjust 3,5 material to 3,0 rules (and vice versa).
Taurren
08-19-04, 09:50 AM I still play 3E and I'm really happy with how my games are going. My 3.5 books are gathering dust on the bookshelf.
coolraygun
08-19-04, 01:21 PM My group is playing a mostly 3.0 game still. By mostly I mean we have started adding some 3.5 rules into the game.

We are soon taking a break from my campaign to allow one of the players to DM and run Eberron, which will be all 3.5 rule books.

During the break I am planning on converting my campaign, and having the players convert their characters over to 3.5.

This is really all up to you. If its all just you and your friends playing at the house then there is no reason you cant play 3.0, or some 3.0/3.5 hybrid. If however you plan on going to conventions to play, or doing any RPGA stuff, then you will want to get the 3.5 books.
Beothul
08-19-04, 01:29 PM Originally posted by GreyLord
Exactly...all you have to do is update a few rules to 3.5 D&D.

Here's the link

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35

(I think I've posted this link now so many times I've lost count!)

There's also this page at WotC that updates the D&D books specifically, also free for download.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a
Cravensson
08-19-04, 03:12 PM Like most of you, I had the 3.0 books, and when 3.5 came out I was a little vexed on what to do as I did not have another $90 to spend on them. I downloaded most of those "product updates". They're not so hot. But the 3.5 SRD has proven to be quite valuable. With the 3.0 books and the SRD, the conversions are not hard.

But if you want to play 3.0 without making any conversions, I don't see why that should be a problem either. Just tell your players up front that "This is what I'm going to be running the game from." A lot of players are used to that, because a lot of DM's have their own house rules and stuff anyway. Or they prefer an out-of-print edition, or whatever.
Seeker95
08-19-04, 04:10 PM Plenty. If I had been in a 3.0 gaming group when 3.5 came out I would have stayed with it at least until the end of the campaign. Since I was not, I made the jump right away. Three of my players (I DM) were brand new to the game, so they didnt "switch". But two of my players currently play in both my 3.5 game and another 3.0 game. The enjoy both.
kasthevampire
08-19-04, 04:29 PM i was looking at the barbarian he is alot better between 5th and 9th level he gets almost no special abiltys. now he is alot more balenced
Korhal IV
08-19-04, 04:45 PM Originally posted by Beothul
There's also this page at WotC that updates the D&D books specifically, also free for download.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a

I second this link. Very useful. Once you've read through it once or twice, you've already upgraded. :D
Kaya Kenobi
08-19-04, 06:53 PM I play 2e and 3e. I don't like 3.5, but it doesn't mean I didn't adopt a few 3.5 things into my game. Hell, I even adopted things from 2e and West End's SW RPG into my 3.0 games. It's a hodge podge of stuff. ;)
kasthevampire
08-19-04, 06:58 PM 2nd edition whoa that is old right but whatever suits your needs
Kaya Kenobi
08-19-04, 11:59 PM Originally posted by kasthevampire
2nd edition whoa that is old right but whatever suits your needs

heh... The only thing in 2e I hated was THACO and longswords.
protonik
08-20-04, 01:30 AM In my experience there haven't been enough changes in 3.0 to 3.5 to really worry about converting. A lot of it is in monsters and the way certain abilities work but they are easy enough to get around using you 3.0 material as a guideline. I only got the 3.5 books because my 3.0 were so worn out, at least I thought so until I saw a friend of mine's 2E revised PHB... my god is it falling apart.

3.0 works fine and isn't broken, whatever that means and there is enough support material and conversion is easy enough to not worry at all.

Jason
kasthevampire
08-20-04, 11:29 AM if there were more changes i would get it but until then i won't buy it maybe 4.0
Rian Lightblade
08-20-04, 04:49 PM The alternate GM in our group is still running a very cool 3.0 campaign. He may switch once he's done. I finished my 3.5 campaign and I am currently working on a OD&D campaign to run for the group.
kasthevampire
08-20-04, 05:00 PM i am going to add the new feats that give you bonuses to skills i mean trading in a feat slot for a measly +2 bonus to one skill isn't worth it. i am also usin greater weapon focus and greater weapon specialization.

3.5 also fixed some bad mistakes on rangers. rangers used to get nothing now they are better at tracking and have other abiltys.

barbarians get there dr alot sooner
Rian Lightblade
08-20-04, 05:23 PM Originally posted by kasthevampire

3.5 also fixed some bad mistakes on rangers. rangers used to get nothing now they are better at tracking and have other abilities.

Indeed!!! 3.5 Rangers are now a class worth taking more then one level in.
kasthevampire
08-20-04, 08:13 PM Originally posted by Rian Lightblade
Indeed!!! 3.5 Rangers are now a class worth taking more then one level in.

indeed however you could get 3 feats and a favored enemy at first level
Kaya Kenobi
08-20-04, 10:48 PM Originally posted by kasthevampire
indeed however you could get 3 feats and a favored enemy at first level

And that was why the ranger was changed.
Edymnion
08-20-04, 10:51 PM Yes, because we all know that first level dip was so horribly wrong. You know, especially since now you can take a one level dip in Fighter, take TWF as your Bonus Feat, and get almost exactly the same result, plus more hitpoints to boot. Yeah, guess the Fighter is broken now...

Anyway, yes, I still play 3.0, I'm currently DM'ing a game that I dubbed 3.25, though. Mainly 3.0 everywhere it counts (spells, DR, etc), but with a few feats and such lifted from 3.5.
kasthevampire
08-20-04, 10:56 PM Originally posted by Kaya Kenobi
And that was why the ranger was changed.

i'm glad and i am also glad they got rid of ampidexterity. i am also glad they give you a choice of whether you want to specialize with the bow or two weapons i mean not every ranger is drizzit lol
protonik
08-21-04, 01:09 AM Originally posted by kasthevampire
i am going to add the new feats that give you bonuses to skills i mean trading in a feat slot for a measly +2 bonus to one skill isn't worth it. i am also usin greater weapon focus and greater weapon specialization.

3.5 also fixed some bad mistakes on rangers. rangers used to get nothing now they are better at tracking and have other abiltys.

barbarians get there dr alot sooner

You get a +2 to two different skills and they work great for concept building actually... you want to play the glib tongued rogue, max out yer skills and get the right selection of feats and have a +6 at first level not including your ability score bonuses, they are wonderful for socially oriented characters...

Jason
The Vagrant
08-21-04, 01:40 AM I play 3E. I would prefer 3.5 but not only do I not feel like buying it, but I've all ready spen hundreds of dolors on 3E material and I'm to lazy to convert it.

The only thing 3.5 has done for me is to ensure that I stop buying an exsesive amount of D&D material. After all, since all new stuff will be 3.5 there are only a limited number of 3E stuff to buy.

Most of wich, sadly, I own.

I can't wait for 4E. If they dont' screw it up, then it'll be cool having something new to buy.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
kasthevampire 08-18-04, 04:47 PM	i got my 3.0 books as birthday gifts in november. soon after 3.5 came out. well i wish i knew about that then i would have got 3.5 and i'm not running out to borders and buying another 90 dollars worth of books.
Palin the Wizard 08-18-04, 05:01 PM	There are plenty of people who still play 3.0.
kasthevampire 08-18-04, 05:03 PM	if you ask me 3.0 is fine there aren't so many changes to the rules that makes it worth 90 more bucks
Palin the Wizard 08-18-04, 05:07 PM	You don't have to pay the 90 bucks. All the rules (with a few exceptions) is available for free, in the SRD. So you can play 3.5, even with 3.0 rulebooks.
kasthevampire 08-18-04, 05:09 PM	srd what is that
GreyLord 08-18-04, 05:10 PM	Originally posted by Palin the Wizard You don't have to pay the 90 bucks. All the rules (with a few exceptions) is available for free, in the SRD. So you can play 3.5, even with 3.0 rulebooks. Exactly...all you have to do is update a few rules to 3.5 D&D. Here's the link http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35 (I think I've posted this link now so many times I've lost count!)
DungeonMaster 08-18-04, 07:45 PM	Many people still play 3rd edition. Many people prefer 3rd edition to 3.5, myself included. My suggestion since you havn't been playing for long is to use the books you have and after playing the game for awhile read the 3.5 SRD and see if you like the changes they made. Right now there's little to no reason for you to rush out and buy 3.5 core books. If you find a DM running a 3.5 game then you might one day want a copy of the 3.5 PHB but even then you can probably manage with your 3rd edition PHB and the SRD. Happy gaming!
kasthevampire 08-18-04, 07:50 PM	yes i looked at some 3.5 stuff and i preffer 3.0 and is there really need for another monster manual lol
DungeonMaster 08-18-04, 08:03 PM	:tiphat: Honestly if you have the 3rd edition core books and you are really interested in spending 90 bucks on more books you can pick up a slew of great 3rd edition books with that money. Deities and demigods, the manual of the planes, the stronghold builder's guidebook and oriental adventures are among my favorites. The monster manual II is quite good overall or save yourself some time and effort and try a campaign setting like the forgotten realms campaign setting or kingdoms of kalamar.
Dizmoo 08-19-04, 04:42 AM	I have the 3.0 PHb and the 3.5 DMG and MM, can't be bothered to buy a new PHb
Palin the Wizard 08-19-04, 04:49 AM	I advise you to play 3.5e. It's the newest version, and all forthcoming material will be 3.5e.
Kilamar 08-19-04, 06:41 AM	There is no problem using 3.5 splatbooks with 3.0 if you really need them. Kilamar
Mindflayeran 08-19-04, 08:32 AM	I still play 3.0 also. I use 3.5 books that i obtain in it. the differences aren't enough to warrant me spending the money. mainly you have to watch out for the spell and class changed, imo, since that is where the greatest difference is.
kasthevampire 08-19-04, 09:31 AM	i have complete warrior and i was fine using it just a few questions is all i had:D
Lord Stigius 08-19-04, 09:46 AM	I am still using 3ed, and not going to change it, at least not until we finish the current campaign (heh... 3 years already, hope it will last some next 3). But I've got the 3,5 SRD and we use some new feats (basically, those giving +2 to 2 skils, instead of old Skill focus ). Also, when I started that campaign, I introduced some house rules. They turned out to be quite similar to those introduced in 3,5 (paladins smiting more often at higher levels, Haste allowing bonus attack, but no bonus spells, reduced chance of armor spell failure for bards are examples). I'm not going to buy 'modernized' core books, only those containing some new material. It realy requires little thinking to adjust 3,5 material to 3,0 rules (and vice versa).
Taurren 08-19-04, 09:50 AM	I still play 3E and I'm really happy with how my games are going. My 3.5 books are gathering dust on the bookshelf.
coolraygun 08-19-04, 01:21 PM	My group is playing a mostly 3.0 game still. By mostly I mean we have started adding some 3.5 rules into the game. We are soon taking a break from my campaign to allow one of the players to DM and run Eberron, which will be all 3.5 rule books. During the break I am planning on converting my campaign, and having the players convert their characters over to 3.5. This is really all up to you. If its all just you and your friends playing at the house then there is no reason you cant play 3.0, or some 3.0/3.5 hybrid. If however you plan on going to conventions to play, or doing any RPGA stuff, then you will want to get the 3.5 books.
Beothul 08-19-04, 01:29 PM	Originally posted by GreyLord Exactly...all you have to do is update a few rules to 3.5 D&D. Here's the link http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35 (I think I've posted this link now so many times I've lost count!) There's also this page at WotC that updates the D&D books specifically, also free for download. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a
Cravensson 08-19-04, 03:12 PM	Like most of you, I had the 3.0 books, and when 3.5 came out I was a little vexed on what to do as I did not have another $90 to spend on them. I downloaded most of those "product updates". They're not so hot. But the 3.5 SRD has proven to be quite valuable. With the 3.0 books and the SRD, the conversions are not hard. But if you want to play 3.0 without making any conversions, I don't see why that should be a problem either. Just tell your players up front that "This is what I'm going to be running the game from." A lot of players are used to that, because a lot of DM's have their own house rules and stuff anyway. Or they prefer an out-of-print edition, or whatever.
Seeker95 08-19-04, 04:10 PM	Plenty. If I had been in a 3.0 gaming group when 3.5 came out I would have stayed with it at least until the end of the campaign. Since I was not, I made the jump right away. Three of my players (I DM) were brand new to the game, so they didnt "switch". But two of my players currently play in both my 3.5 game and another 3.0 game. The enjoy both.
kasthevampire 08-19-04, 04:29 PM	i was looking at the barbarian he is alot better between 5th and 9th level he gets almost no special abiltys. now he is alot more balenced
Korhal IV 08-19-04, 04:45 PM	Originally posted by Beothul There's also this page at WotC that updates the D&D books specifically, also free for download. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20030718a I second this link. Very useful. Once you've read through it once or twice, you've already upgraded. :D
Kaya Kenobi 08-19-04, 06:53 PM	I play 2e and 3e. I don't like 3.5, but it doesn't mean I didn't adopt a few 3.5 things into my game. Hell, I even adopted things from 2e and West End's SW RPG into my 3.0 games. It's a hodge podge of stuff. ;)
kasthevampire 08-19-04, 06:58 PM	2nd edition whoa that is old right but whatever suits your needs
Kaya Kenobi 08-19-04, 11:59 PM	Originally posted by kasthevampire 2nd edition whoa that is old right but whatever suits your needs heh... The only thing in 2e I hated was THACO and longswords.
protonik 08-20-04, 01:30 AM	In my experience there haven't been enough changes in 3.0 to 3.5 to really worry about converting. A lot of it is in monsters and the way certain abilities work but they are easy enough to get around using you 3.0 material as a guideline. I only got the 3.5 books because my 3.0 were so worn out, at least I thought so until I saw a friend of mine's 2E revised PHB... my god is it falling apart. 3.0 works fine and isn't broken, whatever that means and there is enough support material and conversion is easy enough to not worry at all. Jason
kasthevampire 08-20-04, 11:29 AM	if there were more changes i would get it but until then i won't buy it maybe 4.0
Rian Lightblade 08-20-04, 04:49 PM	The alternate GM in our group is still running a very cool 3.0 campaign. He may switch once he's done. I finished my 3.5 campaign and I am currently working on a OD&D campaign to run for the group.
kasthevampire 08-20-04, 05:00 PM	i am going to add the new feats that give you bonuses to skills i mean trading in a feat slot for a measly +2 bonus to one skill isn't worth it. i am also usin greater weapon focus and greater weapon specialization. 3.5 also fixed some bad mistakes on rangers. rangers used to get nothing now they are better at tracking and have other abiltys. barbarians get there dr alot sooner
Rian Lightblade 08-20-04, 05:23 PM	Originally posted by kasthevampire 3.5 also fixed some bad mistakes on rangers. rangers used to get nothing now they are better at tracking and have other abilities. Indeed!!! 3.5 Rangers are now a class worth taking more then one level in.
kasthevampire 08-20-04, 08:13 PM	Originally posted by Rian Lightblade Indeed!!! 3.5 Rangers are now a class worth taking more then one level in. indeed however you could get 3 feats and a favored enemy at first level
Kaya Kenobi 08-20-04, 10:48 PM	Originally posted by kasthevampire indeed however you could get 3 feats and a favored enemy at first level And that was why the ranger was changed.
Edymnion 08-20-04, 10:51 PM	Yes, because we all know that first level dip was so horribly wrong. You know, especially since now you can take a one level dip in Fighter, take TWF as your Bonus Feat, and get almost exactly the same result, plus more hitpoints to boot. Yeah, guess the Fighter is broken now... Anyway, yes, I still play 3.0, I'm currently DM'ing a game that I dubbed 3.25, though. Mainly 3.0 everywhere it counts (spells, DR, etc), but with a few feats and such lifted from 3.5.
kasthevampire 08-20-04, 10:56 PM	Originally posted by Kaya Kenobi And that was why the ranger was changed. i'm glad and i am also glad they got rid of ampidexterity. i am also glad they give you a choice of whether you want to specialize with the bow or two weapons i mean not every ranger is drizzit lol
protonik 08-21-04, 01:09 AM	Originally posted by kasthevampire i am going to add the new feats that give you bonuses to skills i mean trading in a feat slot for a measly +2 bonus to one skill isn't worth it. i am also usin greater weapon focus and greater weapon specialization. 3.5 also fixed some bad mistakes on rangers. rangers used to get nothing now they are better at tracking and have other abiltys. barbarians get there dr alot sooner You get a +2 to two different skills and they work great for concept building actually... you want to play the glib tongued rogue, max out yer skills and get the right selection of feats and have a +6 at first level not including your ability score bonuses, they are wonderful for socially oriented characters... Jason
The Vagrant 08-21-04, 01:40 AM	I play 3E. I would prefer 3.5 but not only do I not feel like buying it, but I've all ready spen hundreds of dolors on 3E material and I'm to lazy to convert it. The only thing 3.5 has done for me is to ensure that I stop buying an exsesive amount of D&D material. After all, since all new stuff will be 3.5 there are only a limited number of 3E stuff to buy. Most of wich, sadly, I own. I can't wait for 4E. If they dont' screw it up, then it'll be cool having something new to buy.