Armor Check Penalty Question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Armor Check Penalty Question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
willxiv
09-09-05, 12:04 PM In the Players Handbook v3.5, it gives a list of skills that are affected by armor check penalties. Armor check penalties are NOT applied to Relfex Saves, right?
Gort32
09-09-05, 12:13 PM Nope - the penalty to reflex saves is reflected in the max dex bonus rating of armor. If the max dex bonus of your armor is less than your current dex bonus, your dex modifier will drop and consequently your reflex save with it.
Bud Green
09-09-05, 01:00 PM Not true. Max Dex Bonus only matters for figuring AC. You can have a Dex of 20 and get +5 to your reflex saves, even wearing full platemail, according to the PHB.

Yeah, seems daft I know.
Bardicstorm
09-09-05, 01:03 PM Not true. Max Dex Bonus only matters for figuring AC. You can have a Dex of 20 and get +5 to your reflex saves, even wearing full platemail, according to the PHB.

Yeah, seems daft I know.
Where does it say that? I always figured the Max Dex effected the Reflex Save as well...
Bud Green
09-09-05, 02:14 PM 3.5 PHB 122, last paragraph in the first column.

You would think so, but nope. *shrug*
Ranger REG
09-10-05, 03:53 AM Yeah, seems daft I know.
Not to me. :smirk:
UZI
09-10-05, 08:08 AM The type of character that uses heavy armor is less likely to have a high dexterity anyway, as they tend to be melee fighters and dump stats into strength and constitution. Also, since fighters (but not barbarians) have poor reflex saves to begin with, capping whatever feeble dexterity they have would make them much more vulnerable to area effects.
Temrek
09-10-05, 08:15 AM And an armor is there to protect you. Granted it might not be the best protection against a fireball but against a collapsing roof?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
willxiv 09-09-05, 12:04 PM	In the Players Handbook v3.5, it gives a list of skills that are affected by armor check penalties. Armor check penalties are NOT applied to Relfex Saves, right?
Gort32 09-09-05, 12:13 PM	Nope - the penalty to reflex saves is reflected in the max dex bonus rating of armor. If the max dex bonus of your armor is less than your current dex bonus, your dex modifier will drop and consequently your reflex save with it.
Bud Green 09-09-05, 01:00 PM	Not true. Max Dex Bonus only matters for figuring AC. You can have a Dex of 20 and get +5 to your reflex saves, even wearing full platemail, according to the PHB. Yeah, seems daft I know.
Bardicstorm 09-09-05, 01:03 PM	Not true. Max Dex Bonus only matters for figuring AC. You can have a Dex of 20 and get +5 to your reflex saves, even wearing full platemail, according to the PHB. Yeah, seems daft I know. Where does it say that? I always figured the Max Dex effected the Reflex Save as well...
Bud Green 09-09-05, 02:14 PM	3.5 PHB 122, last paragraph in the first column. You would think so, but nope. shrug
Ranger REG 09-10-05, 03:53 AM	Yeah, seems daft I know. Not to me. :smirk:
UZI 09-10-05, 08:08 AM	The type of character that uses heavy armor is less likely to have a high dexterity anyway, as they tend to be melee fighters and dump stats into strength and constitution. Also, since fighters (but not barbarians) have poor reflex saves to begin with, capping whatever feeble dexterity they have would make them much more vulnerable to area effects.
Temrek 09-10-05, 08:15 AM	And an armor is there to protect you. Granted it might not be the best protection against a fireball but against a collapsing roof?