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assassin question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
eca
06-23-04, 10:54 AM i am currently a samurai ( only lvl 3 right now ) but i want to turn lvl 11 or 16 im going to turn assassin. but you have kill someone to join the assassins so, does it have to be cold blooded? do you have to attack? what if you have to kill some one on a mission, does that count?

i need answers, i dont want to be on the run the rest of the game.
Big Dawg
06-23-04, 11:34 AM They way I do it is to have a current member of an assassin's put a hit out.

Either he gives the mission directly to the Player's character or the Players Character finds out about a hit indirectly and goes and does it on his own before anyone else can do it. By this he gain notice from the guild.
eca
06-23-04, 11:37 AM but would they take care of the price on my head? ( if any )
Vix Damnul
06-23-04, 12:27 PM First, make sure your DM is ok with this, second, i don't see any reason why an assassin's guild would take care of a price on its members' heads, they're evil for one thing, and for another, a good assassin doesn't get identified. Any old idiot can charge a mark and hack him to death, but an assassin has to make the kill and get away, ideally without being seen or caught. That's the point of assassins, reuseablity.

It's really up to the DM how one would become an assassin, if it's even possible in his game. For all i know, you could qualify as an assassin by killing some goblin who insulted a noble.
eca
06-23-04, 01:34 PM ok ill ask the DM when we play, but dont you think if you were seen or in trouble, the guild would look out for its own and get the price off your head? or would that be the thieves guild?
Big Dawg
06-23-04, 02:45 PM ok ill ask the DM when we play, but dont you think if you were seen or in trouble, the guild would look out for its own and get the price off your head? or would that be the thieves guild?

OMG I am going to Quote the D&D Movie!!!

Honer amongst Thieves...You must be joking!

Ok shoot me now ;)

No really, If you are a good assassin no one will know it's you. and if you get caught I would expect the assassin's Guild to deny it, that is if the law can even locate the guild to begin with. They'll melt away and let you get rocked. that's what evil assassins do.
eca
06-23-04, 02:59 PM first off, i wount be a good asn for awhile :( , second, if you ARE a good assassin, the guild would look out for you, because they wouldent want to loose a good member of the guild. Lastly ASSASSINS ARE NOT THIEVES, so honor amungst thieves wouldent apply.

:tantrum:
Big Dawg
06-23-04, 03:44 PM Dude assassins are Evil. It's a requirement of the class.

I meant "Good" as in doing a good job, not "Good" as in Good and Evil. Assassins are evil, they kill people for money....EVIL

If you want to be a Good assassin then you and your DM should do that on your own. If you want to bend the rules, that's cool. as long as you have fun. If thats the case then just do it.

Maybe make up a "no women no kids thing" your Character goes by.
eca
06-23-04, 03:46 PM ?
eca
06-23-04, 03:47 PM Maybe make up a "no women no kids thing" your Character goes by. [/QUOTE]

wtf???
:confused:
q'afuu
06-23-04, 04:19 PM Originally posted by eca
f... if you ARE a good assassin, the guild would look out for you, because they wouldent want to loose a good member of the guild. If you're a good assassin (as in, good at your job), you wouldn't get in trouble and the guild wouldn't have to look out for you. Getting in trouble and needing guild help is a sign of incompetence.

If you're Good (as in, of Good alignment), you're not an assassin.
q'afuu
06-23-04, 04:21 PM Originally posted by eca
wtf???
:confused: Reference to the movie Leon (Jean Reno, Gary Oldman, Natalie Portman).
Tahl'ira
06-23-04, 04:23 PM eca, if you're planning on being a good (As in alignment) assassin, you can not. Its right there in black and white.

From the SRD:

Requirements
To qualify to become an assassin, a character must fulfill all the following criteria.
Alignment: Any evil.
Skills: Disguise 4 ranks, Hide 8 ranks, Move Silently 8 ranks.
Special: The character must kill someone for no other reason than to join the assassins.

Emphasis mine.
Phist
06-23-04, 04:26 PM BTW, "No women or kids" would be lawful, not good (Not killing someone isn't the same thing as doing them a good deed)

And if you want to be an assassin, I suggest you get some good con poison. And not just injury. It's alot easier to get someone with an inhaled poison than an injury one and puttling a bit of contact poison in someone's clothes while they sleep is much subtler.

Also, make a couple of good disguises. Belive me, the come in handy.
incarnadine
06-23-04, 04:37 PM there is a good assassin version in the book of exhalted deeds.
Slayer of Dominel.

I actulay like it more then the assassin.
eca
06-23-04, 04:38 PM first off let me say I KNOW YOU CANT BE A ****IN GOOD ALIGNED ASN I KNOW YOU HAVE TO KILL SOMEONE TO BE AN ASN, Jesus.:rant:

sry to rant like that but seriusly, if you read the top part of this disscussin you would assume ( i hope) i know how to become an ASN. just to let you know, all i have to do is kill some one to join, i got the stats ( thought youd like to know )

Lastly, i have read every piece of info about ASN's in the DMG so dont talk like i dont know about them.

thank you for your time.
Big Dawg
06-23-04, 04:48 PM Reference to the movie Leon (Jean Reno, Gary Oldman, Natalie Portman).

The movie is called "the Professional" and God damn what POA Natalie Portman is now! I saw her in an Ice cream shop by my house and I tried to talk to her and she shot me down in flames :mad:

first off let me say I KNOW YOU CANT BE A ****IN GOOD ALIGNED ASN I KNOW YOU HAVE TO KILL SOMEONE TO BE AN ASN, Jesus.

about a 9 out of 10 on the tension scale there huh?

relax, you'll live longer.

I think they way you kill someone should be up to the DM. I already said how I do it. you can use that if you want.

No the Guild will not or at least should not cover for you. at least in my opinion.
eca
06-23-04, 04:51 PM can you get a hit taken off your head at like a thieves guild ( like in morrowind?) or do you have to take the punishment?

P.S. im calm now, its just like 3 ppl sayin the same thing and its like no **** retard.:cool:
incarnadine
06-23-04, 05:36 PM i'll say again: there is a "good" assassin version in the book of exhalted deeds.
Slayer of Dominel.
eca
06-23-04, 05:39 PM ya we heard you ( and no one cared )

:heehee
incarnadine
06-23-04, 05:45 PM then screw you and your lawful good assassin.
eca
06-23-04, 05:46 PM your the one with all the sissy assassin crap :looloo:
Khan the Destroyer
06-23-04, 05:52 PM I'm not sure what this thread is about anymore, but I think the poster was originally wondering about killing someone to join the guild. I don't think you can kill someone in self defense or anything as trivial as that. The requirements specifically state that you must kill someone for the sole purpose of joining the guild. So to answer your question, "yes", you must kill them in cold blood.
eca
06-23-04, 05:55 PM kool, if i got that post at the begining, i could've been done with it, but now i feel attached to this thread. :weep:
q'afuu
06-23-04, 06:19 PM Originally posted by Big Dawg
The movie is called "the Professional"... Released as Léon in Europe. Mostly European production, French director, French lead actor... I consider the European title the original one. ;)
eca
06-23-04, 06:21 PM ooooooo burn, you just got burned, burn dude, burn.- Donut, RedvBlue.
simen_88
06-24-04, 07:58 AM I would never allow a player to kill in self-defence or even pick his own kills. The kill is chosen by the guild, and this is what we know as "special discount". Like when you have an apprentice hairdresser cut your hair.
eca
06-24-04, 10:26 AM that would suck for me, our DM woul make me kill a judge, or a knight, or something really hard.
Zherog
06-24-04, 10:48 AM That's kinda the point, eca. It isn't supposed to be easy.
eca
06-24-04, 12:16 PM but its not supposta be impossiable either:bump:

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
eca 06-23-04, 10:54 AM	i am currently a samurai ( only lvl 3 right now ) but i want to turn lvl 11 or 16 im going to turn assassin. but you have kill someone to join the assassins so, does it have to be cold blooded? do you have to attack? what if you have to kill some one on a mission, does that count? i need answers, i dont want to be on the run the rest of the game.
Big Dawg 06-23-04, 11:34 AM	They way I do it is to have a current member of an assassin's put a hit out. Either he gives the mission directly to the Player's character or the Players Character finds out about a hit indirectly and goes and does it on his own before anyone else can do it. By this he gain notice from the guild.
eca 06-23-04, 11:37 AM	but would they take care of the price on my head? ( if any )
Vix Damnul 06-23-04, 12:27 PM	First, make sure your DM is ok with this, second, i don't see any reason why an assassin's guild would take care of a price on its members' heads, they're evil for one thing, and for another, a good assassin doesn't get identified. Any old idiot can charge a mark and hack him to death, but an assassin has to make the kill and get away, ideally without being seen or caught. That's the point of assassins, reuseablity. It's really up to the DM how one would become an assassin, if it's even possible in his game. For all i know, you could qualify as an assassin by killing some goblin who insulted a noble.
eca 06-23-04, 01:34 PM	ok ill ask the DM when we play, but dont you think if you were seen or in trouble, the guild would look out for its own and get the price off your head? or would that be the thieves guild?
Big Dawg 06-23-04, 02:45 PM	ok ill ask the DM when we play, but dont you think if you were seen or in trouble, the guild would look out for its own and get the price off your head? or would that be the thieves guild? OMG I am going to Quote the D&D Movie!!! Honer amongst Thieves...You must be joking! Ok shoot me now ;) No really, If you are a good assassin no one will know it's you. and if you get caught I would expect the assassin's Guild to deny it, that is if the law can even locate the guild to begin with. They'll melt away and let you get rocked. that's what evil assassins do.
eca 06-23-04, 02:59 PM	first off, i wount be a good asn for awhile :( , second, if you ARE a good assassin, the guild would look out for you, because they wouldent want to loose a good member of the guild. Lastly ASSASSINS ARE NOT THIEVES, so honor amungst thieves wouldent apply. :tantrum:
Big Dawg 06-23-04, 03:44 PM	Dude assassins are Evil. It's a requirement of the class. I meant "Good" as in doing a good job, not "Good" as in Good and Evil. Assassins are evil, they kill people for money....EVIL If you want to be a Good assassin then you and your DM should do that on your own. If you want to bend the rules, that's cool. as long as you have fun. If thats the case then just do it. Maybe make up a "no women no kids thing" your Character goes by.
eca 06-23-04, 03:46 PM	?
eca 06-23-04, 03:47 PM	Maybe make up a "no women no kids thing" your Character goes by. [/QUOTE] wtf??? :confused:
q'afuu 06-23-04, 04:19 PM	Originally posted by eca f... if you ARE a good assassin, the guild would look out for you, because they wouldent want to loose a good member of the guild. If you're a good assassin (as in, good at your job), you wouldn't get in trouble and the guild wouldn't have to look out for you. Getting in trouble and needing guild help is a sign of incompetence. If you're Good (as in, of Good alignment), you're not an assassin.
q'afuu 06-23-04, 04:21 PM	Originally posted by eca wtf??? :confused: Reference to the movie Leon (Jean Reno, Gary Oldman, Natalie Portman).
Tahl'ira 06-23-04, 04:23 PM	eca, if you're planning on being a good (As in alignment) assassin, you can not. Its right there in black and white. From the SRD: Requirements To qualify to become an assassin, a character must fulfill all the following criteria. Alignment: Any evil. Skills: Disguise 4 ranks, Hide 8 ranks, Move Silently 8 ranks. Special: The character must kill someone for no other reason than to join the assassins. Emphasis mine.
Phist 06-23-04, 04:26 PM	BTW, "No women or kids" would be lawful, not good (Not killing someone isn't the same thing as doing them a good deed) And if you want to be an assassin, I suggest you get some good con poison. And not just injury. It's alot easier to get someone with an inhaled poison than an injury one and puttling a bit of contact poison in someone's clothes while they sleep is much subtler. Also, make a couple of good disguises. Belive me, the come in handy.
incarnadine 06-23-04, 04:37 PM	there is a good assassin version in the book of exhalted deeds. Slayer of Dominel. I actulay like it more then the assassin.
eca 06-23-04, 04:38 PM	first off let me say I KNOW YOU CANT BE A ****IN GOOD ALIGNED ASN I KNOW YOU HAVE TO KILL SOMEONE TO BE AN ASN, Jesus.:rant: sry to rant like that but seriusly, if you read the top part of this disscussin you would assume ( i hope) i know how to become an ASN. just to let you know, all i have to do is kill some one to join, i got the stats ( thought youd like to know ) Lastly, i have read every piece of info about ASN's in the DMG so dont talk like i dont know about them. thank you for your time.
Big Dawg 06-23-04, 04:48 PM	Reference to the movie Leon (Jean Reno, Gary Oldman, Natalie Portman). The movie is called "the Professional" and God damn what POA Natalie Portman is now! I saw her in an Ice cream shop by my house and I tried to talk to her and she shot me down in flames :mad: first off let me say I KNOW YOU CANT BE A ****IN GOOD ALIGNED ASN I KNOW YOU HAVE TO KILL SOMEONE TO BE AN ASN, Jesus. about a 9 out of 10 on the tension scale there huh? relax, you'll live longer. I think they way you kill someone should be up to the DM. I already said how I do it. you can use that if you want. No the Guild will not or at least should not cover for you. at least in my opinion.
eca 06-23-04, 04:51 PM	can you get a hit taken off your head at like a thieves guild ( like in morrowind?) or do you have to take the punishment? P.S. im calm now, its just like 3 ppl sayin the same thing and its like no **** retard.:cool:
incarnadine 06-23-04, 05:36 PM	i'll say again: there is a "good" assassin version in the book of exhalted deeds. Slayer of Dominel.
eca 06-23-04, 05:39 PM	ya we heard you ( and no one cared ) :heehee
incarnadine 06-23-04, 05:45 PM	then screw you and your lawful good assassin.
eca 06-23-04, 05:46 PM	your the one with all the sissy assassin crap :looloo:
Khan the Destroyer 06-23-04, 05:52 PM	I'm not sure what this thread is about anymore, but I think the poster was originally wondering about killing someone to join the guild. I don't think you can kill someone in self defense or anything as trivial as that. The requirements specifically state that you must kill someone for the sole purpose of joining the guild. So to answer your question, "yes", you must kill them in cold blood.
eca 06-23-04, 05:55 PM	kool, if i got that post at the begining, i could've been done with it, but now i feel attached to this thread. :weep:
q'afuu 06-23-04, 06:19 PM	Originally posted by Big Dawg The movie is called "the Professional"... Released as Léon in Europe. Mostly European production, French director, French lead actor... I consider the European title the original one. ;)
eca 06-23-04, 06:21 PM	ooooooo burn, you just got burned, burn dude, burn.- Donut, RedvBlue.
simen_88 06-24-04, 07:58 AM	I would never allow a player to kill in self-defence or even pick his own kills. The kill is chosen by the guild, and this is what we know as "special discount". Like when you have an apprentice hairdresser cut your hair.
eca 06-24-04, 10:26 AM	that would suck for me, our DM woul make me kill a judge, or a knight, or something really hard.
Zherog 06-24-04, 10:48 AM	That's kinda the point, eca. It isn't supposed to be easy.
eca 06-24-04, 12:16 PM	but its not supposta be impossiable either:bump: