Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Powerstatb 05-15-07, 10:05 PM	If your opponent provokes an attack of opportunity can you use this attack to make a trip attempt or a disarm attempt? My DM says no because this is a special manuver. He also says that you can not do it because no where in the PH does it say that you can make a trip attack as an attack of opportunity. My rebuttal is that trips and disarms replace a melee attack, which is what an attack of opportunity is. Who is right and why? If possible can you state where in the book it is?
DarkNick 05-15-07, 11:36 PM	I've always assumed you can... Now from the SRD it says making a trip attack as an "unarmed melee attack" http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/combat/TRIP.html Now the SRD also says that and attack of opportunity is "a single melee attack" http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/combat/ATTACKS_OF_OPPORTUNITY.html So if an attack of opportunity allows you to make a melee attack and you are able to make a trip or disarm attempt as a melee attack then logically you can trip or disarm as part of an attack of opportunity.
Vaalingrade Ashland 05-15-07, 11:41 PM	They are attacks, so yes. Also note that standing up after being tripped provokes an AoO...
DarkNick 05-15-07, 11:58 PM	They are attacks, so yes. Also note that standing up after being tripped provokes an AoO... yup, but you can't then use the AoO to trip them as it interupts their action to stand...therefore they are still tripped at the moment of the AoO.
Angus Cotton 05-16-07, 12:00 AM	The other posters are correct. A trip and disarm are an attack. There are quite a few builds based around this fact. Also, a common strat for a fighter doing a Full Attack action is to use his first two attacks to swing his weapon normally, but his last few attacks to attempt to trip (since it is easier for a fighter to hit with a touch attack even with his -11 and -16 to hit on the last two attacks).
runestar 05-16-07, 12:06 AM	Also, a common strat for a fighter doing a Full Attack action is to use his first two attacks to swing his weapon normally, but his last few attacks to attempt to trip (since it is easier for a fighter to hit with a touch attack even with his -11 and -16 to hit on the last two attacks). I always thought it was the other way round. The fighter would use his 1st attack to trip, so that subsequent attacks get the +4 to-hit, which helps offset the cumulative -5bab they get...:P