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Asta Kask 04-02-04, 04:56 AM	Why do they call the class "Commoner"? Shouldn't it be the "More Common" class? And what is the "Most Common" class? Is it the epic progression? I'm confused.
ieattrollsforbreakfast 04-02-04, 05:07 AM	If your calling someone A commoner, it means they are poor, common etc. But if you are calling some commoner than someone else, then it would mean MORE common. It just too different meanings of the word thats all.
Seeker95 04-02-04, 07:59 AM	So should we call the farmer "more farm"? :P
Rorroh Fiendhugger 04-02-04, 09:49 AM	Hilarious thread, A++ classic.
Angel_Azriel 04-02-04, 09:56 AM	Hey, I can live with bad grammer. So long as letters aren't getting replaced by numbers, I'll be fine.
lukelightning 04-02-04, 10:19 AM	Fighters are "more fight" and sorcerers are "more-more-sorc" right? Gives me an idea for an egotistical fighter. "I'm not a fighter, I'm a fightest!"
hiryuu 04-02-04, 11:16 AM	Actually, the adjective forms of "common" are commoner and commonest....sure, it doesn't sound right, bu they are. The word "commoner" also has the definition of meaning "one without a noble title" or "one of the common folk."
Sulaco 04-02-04, 02:52 PM	Originally posted by Asta Kask Why do they call the class "Commoner"? Shouldn't it be the "More Common" class? And what is the "Most Common" class? Is it the epic progression? Please be joking.
Kolava 04-02-04, 08:37 PM	Screw fighter, my next character is going to be the fightest :cool:
Sweet Steph 04-02-04, 09:12 PM	Originally posted by Sulaco Please be joking. I ruled out the possibility of an April Fool's joke simply because of the date. Methinks the OP's native language isn't English, however (see her location). It's no big deal, though, as this language can be pretty confusing, even to native speakers.
Turin Agarwaen 04-02-04, 09:13 PM	Bad Grammar!? That ain't not no right!
zodiki 04-02-04, 09:27 PM	The most common class among commoners is the commoner class among commoners called "Commoner".
Master_of_Sarcasm 04-02-04, 09:50 PM	Gives me an idea for an egotistical fighter. "I'm not a fighter, I'm a fightest!" Alright, I'll bite. So, by this logic, would an egotistical sorcerer be a sorcerest, or would he be a sorcestest? Or maybe a sorcester?
SnowbearK 04-02-04, 11:49 PM	Bad Grammar? Nah. But Grandfather, there was a bad guy... :angel:
reanjr 04-03-04, 02:35 AM	Originally posted by Master_of_Sarcasm Alright, I'll bite. So, by this logic, would an egotistical sorcerer be a sorcerest, or would he be a sorcestest? Or maybe a sorcester? I think it would be a "sorcest of the sorcing sorcers"
Large Gnoll 04-03-04, 02:42 AM	Originally posted by Sweet Steph Methinks the OP's native language isn't English, however (see her location). It's no big deal, though, as this language can be pretty confusing, even to native speakers. Try dutch ...
rogue_lettuce 04-03-04, 04:05 AM	I've tried them, they're tasty....:angel:
SnowbearK 04-03-04, 04:32 AM	Mmmm...dutch baby... Better is dutch triplets though. :angel:
His Majesty 04-03-04, 06:35 AM	Why, when I was to be wenting he were broughtenended besiding her brotherestest. (c) All rights reserved to Oren Shonberger.
Turin Agarwaen 04-03-04, 06:28 PM	Well, I do not be knowing what you guys be thinking of bad grammarer, but I finks it most be funny!
Conaill 04-04-04, 01:04 AM	Bad grammer? Shouldn't that be "worse gram"?
Teh Lurv 04-04-04, 01:35 AM	Ralph: Me fail english? That's unpossible!
ssampier 04-04-04, 12:38 PM	:cloud9: funny thread, but seriously, we should give the original poster a little slack. http://mysmilies.ipbfree.com/s/contrib/ruinkai/biggrinking.gif BTW, commoner is correct. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=commoner
Mr.Waesel 04-04-04, 03:49 PM	Originally posted by Large Gnoll Try dutch ... Oh yeah. I'm still figuring out why it's "donker, donkerder, donkerst" in stead of "donk, donker, donkst" :P And :rofl: @ LukeLightning
HorrorOfYig 04-04-04, 09:26 PM	"Not of the nobility" according to dictionary on hand. I was beginning to think maybe it meant "common-er" as in "of the common grounds" or something...which would make sense sort of. No one ever uses the word commoner in D&D except from a metagame perspective, as in-game you think of them as barwenches and clerks and what-not. IMC i rarely use the thing anyways...unless I'm trying to establish a contemptable ineptitude of a demographic...like IMC a tainted weak and decadent urban city, or a serfdom, would be comprised of skilless poor-BAB D4 hit die types, with their average points totalling 63, whilst a sokeman or freeman farmer, or a pioneer would be closer to an Expert or a Warrior, with a higher points total than the 3D6 average yields.
green_yawgmoth 04-04-04, 10:31 PM	Me fail english? That's unpossible! :D
Korhal IV 04-04-04, 10:59 PM	I *have* found some examples of bad english in CW, though, specifically in the Swashbuckler class. "A Swashbuckler may add +1 to his AC per something something, up to a maximum of her Intelligence bonus." I can hear the Swashbuckler's player now: "Hey, Bob, can you play an enchantress? I need a "her" with a high Int." Political correctness is a powerful curse. :D
Sphyre 04-05-04, 05:09 AM	Originally posted by Turin Agarwaen Bad Grammar!? That ain't not no right! LOL, I love people who make that mistake. I don't recall what the first line was but my little brother said something and i corrected his grammar. Then he said "hey i don't care about using bad grammar." I then immediatly said "Poor grammar." My father then butted in and said "Wow, harsh." Then my older of my two younger brothers said "Owned! with a capital P!" Needless to say poor baby brother was speechless. Heh, i have a crazy family
Asta Kask 04-06-04, 05:38 AM	Originally posted by Sulaco Please be joking. Yes, I was joking. I'm a grammar buff and English is such a lovely language to play with. Actually, English grammar is extremely simple. Pronounciation is another thing, but the grammar is easy. In German, the regular plural form is used for less than 1 percent of the 1 000 commonest (most common? :D) words. And, as Mark Twain observed, it is quite possible to fit the entire 30 years' war between the first and second part of a verb. In Russian, the system is a mess of five cases, irregularities, aspects, and other stuff that turns your hair grey and makes you long for a simple language like... English! I'm from Sweden and we have two neutral genders in the system (with the masculine and feminine genders only rarely used for anything other than humans and animals). NO foreigner gets it right. There is a system there, but I'm buggered if I can figure it out (I THINK that n-gender is regular, but I'm not sure). My mother is from Finland, a lovely country with seas, trees and fifteen (!) cases. Including one which is used only when denying something or speaking about unquantified items.
gbnogkfs 04-06-04, 11:43 AM	Try the nice Esperanto. Simple grammar, zero irregular forms, tremendous possibility of expression.
LordofIllusions 04-06-04, 11:58 AM	Originally posted by Asta Kask Why do they call the class "Commoner"? Shouldn't it be the "More Common" class? And what is the "Most Common" class? Is it the epic progression? I'm confused. Wtf???!!! Is English your 2nd language ? ~~~
Foolosophy 04-06-04, 01:31 PM	Originally posted by LordofIllusions Wtf???!!! Is English your 2nd language ? ~~~ yes, as he stated it is not his native language but looks like english isn't your first language aswell. Let me guess, your native tongue would be "h4x0r AOL kidd!3?
LordofIllusions 04-06-04, 01:40 PM	"As well", is two words not one(What is this ---> aswell ?). Before you log on with your alternate user name in a futile attempt to insult someone make sure that you learn how to separate words first. ~~~
Foolosophy 04-06-04, 01:46 PM	Whoah, you found a typo. Now you have embarrassed me big time. But your conspiration theory is funny. or should I say "is funny!!!!!!!!"
His Majesty 04-06-04, 03:44 PM	Stop this, guys. Great thread, BTW. And in case someone didn't notice this: When I was to be wenting he were broughtenended besiding her brotherestest.
Turin Agarwaen 04-06-04, 07:50 PM	Yeah, we not needing to start flame war. It bad! (or for those who prefer proper grammar) I agree with His Majesty. We have little need for such tomfoolery on this thread of most fun *cough*, I mean of more funnest, I mean... :confused:
RobTzu 04-06-04, 09:43 PM	Here is a horrible case of bad grammar due to Politcal Correctness: "A 4th-level wizard can prepare any extra 0-level or 1st level spell she knows." Tome and Blood pg 40, Extra Spell feat. Went from a gender neutral it to a female, at the least it should be he. What next personhole covers? Instead of a man's man we could have a person persons.
Sphyre 04-08-04, 05:16 PM	Originally posted by RobTzu Here is a horrible case of bad grammar due to Politcal Correctness: "A 4th-level wizard can prepare any extra 0-level or 1st level spell she knows." Tome and Blood pg 40, Extra Spell feat. Went from a gneder neutral it to a female, at the least it should be he. What next personhole covers? Instead of a man's man we could have person persons. Actually the proper English grammar for that sentence would be "A 4th-level wizard can prepare any extra 0-level or 1st level spell he or she knows." Although over time it has become a convention to save time and space to just pick a gender and stick with it for the sake of refering to the gender neutral 4th-level wizard. Since, historically, this has been a male dominated society many people choose the female gender to avoid being labeled sexist by radical feminists. In fact, I'm sure that there would be at least a new thread a month about someone nitpicking at wizards and calling them sexist if they printed he instead of she.
Master_of_Sarcasm 04-09-04, 03:36 PM	Originally posted by RobTzu What next personhole covers? Instead of a man's man we could have a person persons. Very nice use of a somewhat subtle George Carlin quote. If any one man is the authority on bashing grammar and/or political correctness, it's him. ...Unfortunately, I have nothing constructive or interesting to add, so I'm just rambling today... So, does that make me a rambler, or a more ramble?;)
RobTzu 04-09-04, 07:53 PM	Glad someone caught it, I haven't found Carlin funny or even stomachable since then. And what you said makes you rambleous. Of course once upon a time I thought "munchkinismness" was a word, which it is, and I stand by it!
Giarc 04-09-04, 08:21 PM	Originally posted by RobTzu Here is a horrible case of bad grammar due to Politcal Correctness: "A 4th-level wizard can prepare any extra 0-level or 1st level spell she knows." Tome and Blood pg 40, Extra Spell feat. Went from a gender neutral it to a female, at the least it should be he. What next personhole covers? Instead of a man's man we could have a person persons. They used "she" because the iconic wizard in the books is Mialee. The iconic cleric is Jozan, so when they talk about clerics, it will use the "he" pronoun.
hazhar 04-10-04, 08:57 AM	It always amuses me wen ppl get all obsessed with grammer, spellling definitions etc... Look at Yoda - one of the most powerful, wisest and not to mention greenest beings to ever exist. His grammar? Bad, it was. or perhaps poor. ;) Not to mention his spelling. I mean, with those lil stubby hands i cant see him being able to type all that well.
Turin Agarwaen 04-12-04, 08:40 PM	The force is strong with this one! Remember, two sides are there to grammar. Both a dark and light, sure you should be that wisely you have chosen.:D
Asta Kask 04-15-04, 06:53 AM	Originally posted by hazhar Look at Yoda - one of the most powerful, wisest and not to mention greenest beings to ever exist. His grammar? Bad, it was. or perhaps poor. ;) Sorry to resurrect this thread from the dead, but I just can't resist... Yoda's grammar actually perfect is. Just not English grammar it is. Last he places the head of the phrases. Japanese grammar with English words, it is. Basically, you can arrange the Subject, the Verb and the Object in six different ways. SVO SOV OVS OSV VSO VOS 95% of the languages of the world are either SVO or OVS languages; that is, they place the verb in the middle, separating Subject or Object. Since the Subject of the phrase is known as "the head", SVO languages are known as "head-first" languages and OVS languages are known as "head-last" languages. Yoda uses english words, but has OVS order rather than SVO order. This is what makes his language seem so strange.
hazhar 04-15-04, 08:15 AM	95% of the languages of the world are either SVO or OVS languages; that is, they place the verb in the middle, separating Subject or Object. Since the Subject of the phrase is known as "the head", SVO languages are known as "head-first" languages and OVS languages are known as "head-last" languages. I'm well aware of this... Infact I'm currently (on and off) working on a constructed language with a completely different form: OVSV The verb is repeated. It is an odd language is. It doesn't work very well :mymy:
Sulaco 04-15-04, 04:10 PM	Originally posted by Kolava Screw fighter, my next character is going to be the fightest :cool: :rofl: I don't believe in using other people's posts as sigs, but if I did that would be #1 on my list!
Sulaco 04-15-04, 04:11 PM	Ignore
Asta Kask 04-16-04, 05:08 AM	Originally posted by hazhar I'm well aware of this... Infact I'm currently (on and off) working on a constructed language with a completely different form: OVSV The verb is repeated. It is an odd language is. It doesn't work very well :mymy: It could be made more interesting if you had the other verb indicate something. Language elements are rarely useless - they serve a purpose. So if we combine tenses, present + future could mean near future, future + future is far future, the same for past, and past + future means "always has been and always will be". You could do the same with the various modes, perhaps. Imperative + interrogative means that you command him to answer the question. Interrogative + indicative means a fleeting interest whereas interrogative + interrogative means you really want to find out. etc.