Basic Game Newbie looking for AC standards [Archive] - Wizards Community

Basic Game Newbie looking for AC standards [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
thebigeasy1978
08-03-05, 11:08 AM i recently picked up the dnd basic game and i have been racking my brain trying to figure out how to create a character (it seems that this provided advanced rule book is very unorganized), but i cannot find out how to decide my armor class. ive looked and looked for some base rate decided by my race and class but no. please will anyone help this up and coming find out what i need to do.

and my budget at this time is limited, is there anywhere else other then amazon.com that offers the core books at a slightly used or discounted price.

thank you, Joe
BeyondFated
08-03-05, 11:11 AM Your AC starts with a base of 10, then you add your Armor Bonus, Shield bonus, Dex bonus, and and other misc. bonus.

Thats about it.
rbrt_Spade
08-03-05, 11:15 AM with the basic game you dont make pcs. you choose one of the premade ones. once you start playing AD&D you can make your own pcs.-the basic game is to teach you the basics and learn to have fun in D&D i think
thebigeasy1978
08-03-05, 11:25 AM i appreciate the quick reply and was leaning towards a base of 10 because of the glossary's def on the wizards/dnd page but one pre made "eberk"'s ac didnt seem to add up right. and to rbrt, the advanced rule book provides a photo copyable empty player sheet and some basic rules of creation. i plan to continue on to bigger and better but money is tight.

and i forget to add that i am unable to find the initiative as well. this request may seem petty but I may be becoming slightly obsessed.

Get your d20 roll on, Joe
rbrt_Spade
08-03-05, 11:28 AM do you have the basic game or the core books?

sorry i own the 2000 basic game
rbrt_Spade
08-03-05, 11:30 AM int. is solved by a dex check

you roll 1d20+dex mod+any other mods

the higher gets to take the first actions

it basicly in some games tells your life and death of a pc
thebigeasy1978
08-03-05, 11:31 AM not a problem

i just picked up the basic game 2 weeks ago and the back of the box reads 2004

no core books just what was provided

EDIT: rbrt what other modifiers, i understand the giest of the stats side i just dont have all the bells and whistles
rbrt_Spade
08-03-05, 11:35 AM thiers spells,the feat improved intiative that gives you a +4 bonus on the roll, and magic idems
rbrt_Spade
08-03-05, 11:37 AM check out the link in my sig-new player click here to learn what you need to play AD&D once you learn basic.-theirs also a intro thing on their called demo that shows you some of the things of the game
thebigeasy1978
08-03-05, 11:40 AM cool i will check that link out, and keep you in mind if i need some friendly advice
rbrt_Spade
08-03-05, 11:42 AM ill add you to my buddy list
thebigeasy1978
08-03-05, 11:43 AM as will i :D
Smilinggm
08-03-05, 11:58 AM IMHO The D&D Basic Box Set is missed named, It would be better marketed as Introduction to D&D. And even then it does a poor job at that. It does not do justice to the earlier Basic Sets. (RANT OFF)

As a newb you are probalby unaware of a document called the SRD. The SRD in a nutshell is the Players Handbook, The Dungons Masters Guide, The Monsters Manuel and Psionic Handbook in an electronic document. IT is FREE to download and use as you see fit in play. The SRD was created so that 3rd party publishers could publish 3.x D&D material using the core rules. And there is a lot of 3rd party material out there as a result.

Here are a couple of Links to the SRD:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35
http://www.d20srd.org/

rbrt_Spade has a list of great links in his sig if you need more.

Enjoy
GreyLord
08-03-05, 08:02 PM with the basic game you dont make pcs. you choose one of the premade ones. once you start playing AD&D you can make your own pcs.-the basic game is to teach you the basics and learn to have fun in D&D i think

Am I the ONLY person that can figure this out who got the Basic set.

Hmm, let's see...we know that the premade characters have an Armor Class of such and such (Take Aramis...he has an Armor Class of 13, or Lidda who has an Armor class of 17). It gives the rules for Armor class minus the 10 number. However, with a little backwards math...for example Aramis has a Dexterity that gives him a +3 AC bonus, and has a 13 Armor Class...hmmm what does that give me.

I thought it was child's play...easily done...even my wife who flunked 3rd grade math and can't figure out THAC0 got it pretty easy...but some things are harder for people than others.

That said...yes, the basic game tells you EVERYTHING you need to make a basic character. In fact they give you just about everything you need to play. The only thing they don't give you are the experience charts, which in my opinion they could have been a tad more generous and given the XP charts up to at least 3rd level or 5th level, however, minus that, the SRD is a great tool for extending out the Basic Game. The Basic Game is a GREAT tool...and with it and the SRD I was able to play 3.5 rather easily until I felt the need to get a bigger 3.5 game along.
GreyLord
08-03-05, 08:05 PM IMHO The D&D Basic Box Set is missed named, It would be better marketed as Introduction to D&D. And even then it does a poor job at that. It does not do justice to the earlier Basic Sets. (RANT OFF)

As a newb you are probalby unaware of a document called the SRD. The SRD in a nutshell is the Players Handbook, The Dungons Masters Guide, The Monsters Manuel and Psionic Handbook in an electronic document. IT is FREE to download and use as you see fit in play. The SRD was created so that 3rd party publishers could publish 3.x D&D material using the core rules. And there is a lot of 3rd party material out there as a result.

Here are a couple of Links to the SRD:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35
http://www.d20srd.org/

rbrt_Spade has a list of great links in his sig if you need more.

Enjoy

I have to admit, in some ways you are probably correct on that mark concerning previous Basic Sets in relation to the current one.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
thebigeasy1978 08-03-05, 11:08 AM	i recently picked up the dnd basic game and i have been racking my brain trying to figure out how to create a character (it seems that this provided advanced rule book is very unorganized), but i cannot find out how to decide my armor class. ive looked and looked for some base rate decided by my race and class but no. please will anyone help this up and coming find out what i need to do. and my budget at this time is limited, is there anywhere else other then amazon.com that offers the core books at a slightly used or discounted price. thank you, Joe
BeyondFated 08-03-05, 11:11 AM	Your AC starts with a base of 10, then you add your Armor Bonus, Shield bonus, Dex bonus, and and other misc. bonus. Thats about it.
rbrt_Spade 08-03-05, 11:15 AM	with the basic game you dont make pcs. you choose one of the premade ones. once you start playing AD&D you can make your own pcs.-the basic game is to teach you the basics and learn to have fun in D&D i think
thebigeasy1978 08-03-05, 11:25 AM	i appreciate the quick reply and was leaning towards a base of 10 because of the glossary's def on the wizards/dnd page but one pre made "eberk"'s ac didnt seem to add up right. and to rbrt, the advanced rule book provides a photo copyable empty player sheet and some basic rules of creation. i plan to continue on to bigger and better but money is tight. and i forget to add that i am unable to find the initiative as well. this request may seem petty but I may be becoming slightly obsessed. Get your d20 roll on, Joe
rbrt_Spade 08-03-05, 11:28 AM	do you have the basic game or the core books? sorry i own the 2000 basic game
rbrt_Spade 08-03-05, 11:30 AM	int. is solved by a dex check you roll 1d20+dex mod+any other mods the higher gets to take the first actions it basicly in some games tells your life and death of a pc
thebigeasy1978 08-03-05, 11:31 AM	not a problem i just picked up the basic game 2 weeks ago and the back of the box reads 2004 no core books just what was provided EDIT: rbrt what other modifiers, i understand the giest of the stats side i just dont have all the bells and whistles
rbrt_Spade 08-03-05, 11:35 AM	thiers spells,the feat improved intiative that gives you a +4 bonus on the roll, and magic idems
rbrt_Spade 08-03-05, 11:37 AM	check out the link in my sig-new player click here to learn what you need to play AD&D once you learn basic.-theirs also a intro thing on their called demo that shows you some of the things of the game
thebigeasy1978 08-03-05, 11:40 AM	cool i will check that link out, and keep you in mind if i need some friendly advice
rbrt_Spade 08-03-05, 11:42 AM	ill add you to my buddy list
thebigeasy1978 08-03-05, 11:43 AM	as will i :D
Smilinggm 08-03-05, 11:58 AM	IMHO The D&D Basic Box Set is missed named, It would be better marketed as Introduction to D&D. And even then it does a poor job at that. It does not do justice to the earlier Basic Sets. (RANT OFF) As a newb you are probalby unaware of a document called the SRD. The SRD in a nutshell is the Players Handbook, The Dungons Masters Guide, The Monsters Manuel and Psionic Handbook in an electronic document. IT is FREE to download and use as you see fit in play. The SRD was created so that 3rd party publishers could publish 3.x D&D material using the core rules. And there is a lot of 3rd party material out there as a result. Here are a couple of Links to the SRD: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35 http://www.d20srd.org/ rbrt_Spade has a list of great links in his sig if you need more. Enjoy
GreyLord 08-03-05, 08:02 PM	with the basic game you dont make pcs. you choose one of the premade ones. once you start playing AD&D you can make your own pcs.-the basic game is to teach you the basics and learn to have fun in D&D i think Am I the ONLY person that can figure this out who got the Basic set. Hmm, let's see...we know that the premade characters have an Armor Class of such and such (Take Aramis...he has an Armor Class of 13, or Lidda who has an Armor class of 17). It gives the rules for Armor class minus the 10 number. However, with a little backwards math...for example Aramis has a Dexterity that gives him a +3 AC bonus, and has a 13 Armor Class...hmmm what does that give me. I thought it was child's play...easily done...even my wife who flunked 3rd grade math and can't figure out THAC0 got it pretty easy...but some things are harder for people than others. That said...yes, the basic game tells you EVERYTHING you need to make a basic character. In fact they give you just about everything you need to play. The only thing they don't give you are the experience charts, which in my opinion they could have been a tad more generous and given the XP charts up to at least 3rd level or 5th level, however, minus that, the SRD is a great tool for extending out the Basic Game. The Basic Game is a GREAT tool...and with it and the SRD I was able to play 3.5 rather easily until I felt the need to get a bigger 3.5 game along.
GreyLord 08-03-05, 08:05 PM	IMHO The D&D Basic Box Set is missed named, It would be better marketed as Introduction to D&D. And even then it does a poor job at that. It does not do justice to the earlier Basic Sets. (RANT OFF) As a newb you are probalby unaware of a document called the SRD. The SRD in a nutshell is the Players Handbook, The Dungons Masters Guide, The Monsters Manuel and Psionic Handbook in an electronic document. IT is FREE to download and use as you see fit in play. The SRD was created so that 3rd party publishers could publish 3.x D&D material using the core rules. And there is a lot of 3rd party material out there as a result. Here are a couple of Links to the SRD: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35 http://www.d20srd.org/ rbrt_Spade has a list of great links in his sig if you need more. Enjoy I have to admit, in some ways you are probably correct on that mark concerning previous Basic Sets in relation to the current one.