Can someone clear this rule up for me? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Can someone clear this rule up for me? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Disco
05-10-06, 12:31 AM When Wildshaping what items/bonus still apply when in a new form? None? All? Rings etc...

Thanks
Ghostwheel
05-10-06, 01:12 AM When Wildshaping what items/bonus still apply when in a new form? None? All? Rings etc...

Thanks

The Wildshape ability seems to be well-entangled with the "polymorph problem." A good place to start might be at the DnD site http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20060502a .

Once you understand it all, you can come back and explain it to us. :)
Disco
05-10-06, 07:21 AM Except as described elsewhere, the creature retains all other game statistics of its original form, including (but not necessarily limited to) HD, hit points, skill ranks, feats, base attack bonus, and base save bonuses.

It really doesn't touch on it, apart from this rather ambiguous quote. As far as I can tell, it is the best I can go on.
Vaelan
05-10-06, 07:26 AM It all melds and becomes nonfunctional.

You can see this for yourself in the new PHB Errata.
Zherog
05-10-06, 09:32 AM The Wildshape ability seems to be well-entangled with the "polymorph problem."

Not any more. Check the errata. :)

Wild shape is now based on the "Alternate Form" ability in the Monster Manual. It also now specifically states that any items you're wearing when you use your wild shape meld with your new form and become non-functional. You can still take off the item, perform the wild shape, then put the items back on - assuming your new form can wear the item.
CzarGarrett
05-10-06, 01:28 PM Without reading through all that, I would assume that the Wildshape or whatever its called Armor property kinda trumps the melding thing. As that ability specifically states that it morphs with the new form.
Vaelan
05-11-06, 03:35 AM Without reading through all that, I would assume that the Wildshape or whatever its called Armor property kinda trumps the melding thing. As that ability specifically states that it morphs with the new form.
That would be a supremely reasonable assumption.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Disco 05-10-06, 12:31 AM	When Wildshaping what items/bonus still apply when in a new form? None? All? Rings etc... Thanks
Ghostwheel 05-10-06, 01:12 AM	When Wildshaping what items/bonus still apply when in a new form? None? All? Rings etc... Thanks The Wildshape ability seems to be well-entangled with the "polymorph problem." A good place to start might be at the DnD site http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20060502a . Once you understand it all, you can come back and explain it to us. :)
Disco 05-10-06, 07:21 AM	Except as described elsewhere, the creature retains all other game statistics of its original form, including (but not necessarily limited to) HD, hit points, skill ranks, feats, base attack bonus, and base save bonuses. It really doesn't touch on it, apart from this rather ambiguous quote. As far as I can tell, it is the best I can go on.
Vaelan 05-10-06, 07:26 AM	It all melds and becomes nonfunctional. You can see this for yourself in the new PHB Errata.
Zherog 05-10-06, 09:32 AM	The Wildshape ability seems to be well-entangled with the "polymorph problem." Not any more. Check the errata. :) Wild shape is now based on the "Alternate Form" ability in the Monster Manual. It also now specifically states that any items you're wearing when you use your wild shape meld with your new form and become non-functional. You can still take off the item, perform the wild shape, then put the items back on - assuming your new form can wear the item.
CzarGarrett 05-10-06, 01:28 PM	Without reading through all that, I would assume that the Wildshape or whatever its called Armor property kinda trumps the melding thing. As that ability specifically states that it morphs with the new form.
Vaelan 05-11-06, 03:35 AM	Without reading through all that, I would assume that the Wildshape or whatever its called Armor property kinda trumps the melding thing. As that ability specifically states that it morphs with the new form. That would be a supremely reasonable assumption.