Can Trumpet Archons cast Sanctified Spells? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Can Trumpet Archons cast Sanctified Spells? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Mecra
01-08-04, 12:22 AM S.Spells say they know no casting class limitation except Spontanious(sp) casters. Since Trumpet Archons cast spells like clerics, but only have access to certain domains, would they also have or not have access to the S.Spell list?
Wayward Son
01-08-04, 09:50 AM If you would like them to, then there is no reason why they shouldn't. They are creatures of purest Good, after all. Just remember to adjust their CR (or ECL) accordingly. They are already powerful creatures, and Sanctified magic would make them even moreso.
Count Arioch the 28th
01-08-04, 08:41 PM Yes, except do not adjust the CR one bit.

you don't adjust the CR if a human cleric casts sanctified magic, don't adjust the CR of a monster that does so.
Jingizu
01-10-04, 11:38 PM That may or may not be true. CR isn't at all equivelent to what is good or bad for a player. A Balor, for instance, is /far/ more powerful as a PC then as a monster. Why? Because with his host of spell-like abilities, many of which are usable at will or many times per day, he could trounce monster after monster, and have many tactical options open to him.

As a Monster? Well, that's different. A typical Balor will never get to use more then one or two of those abilities before the PC's tool him into the ground. A Dragon may cast spells as a 20th level mage, but will he? He's better off just casting some buffs, and attacking in melee. But as a PC? That's a whole other animal of options opened.

How does this apply here? Your typical 'monster' Archon, who will probably only show up for a few round of combat, isn't really going to suffer 'long term' consequences for his Sacrificial spells. A PC has to deal with those ability score hits all day, encounter after encounter, so they mean a great deal more.

So hiking up the CR may not be a bad idea, really.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Mecra 01-08-04, 12:22 AM	S.Spells say they know no casting class limitation except Spontanious(sp) casters. Since Trumpet Archons cast spells like clerics, but only have access to certain domains, would they also have or not have access to the S.Spell list?
Wayward Son 01-08-04, 09:50 AM	If you would like them to, then there is no reason why they shouldn't. They are creatures of purest Good, after all. Just remember to adjust their CR (or ECL) accordingly. They are already powerful creatures, and Sanctified magic would make them even moreso.
Count Arioch the 28th 01-08-04, 08:41 PM	Yes, except do not adjust the CR one bit. you don't adjust the CR if a human cleric casts sanctified magic, don't adjust the CR of a monster that does so.
Jingizu 01-10-04, 11:38 PM	That may or may not be true. CR isn't at all equivelent to what is good or bad for a player. A Balor, for instance, is /far/ more powerful as a PC then as a monster. Why? Because with his host of spell-like abilities, many of which are usable at will or many times per day, he could trounce monster after monster, and have many tactical options open to him. As a Monster? Well, that's different. A typical Balor will never get to use more then one or two of those abilities before the PC's tool him into the ground. A Dragon may cast spells as a 20th level mage, but will he? He's better off just casting some buffs, and attacking in melee. But as a PC? That's a whole other animal of options opened. How does this apply here? Your typical 'monster' Archon, who will probably only show up for a few round of combat, isn't really going to suffer 'long term' consequences for his Sacrificial spells. A PC has to deal with those ability score hits all day, encounter after encounter, so they mean a great deal more. So hiking up the CR may not be a bad idea, really.