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savatage 05-28-07, 11:12 AM	Help me!!!! I've been looking all over for the 3.5 character conversion rules.. where are they???? I found them once but now I can't.
Tempest Stormwind 05-28-07, 11:16 AM	Help me!!!! I've been looking all over for the 3.5 character conversion rules.. where are they???? I found them once but now I can't.Head to the main site, click Game Rules, then FAQ. It's at the bottom. It's a conversion to 3.0, but the changes between those two are really quite simple.
Thunder Dragonbane 05-28-07, 11:39 AM	It may be disapointing to see some of the rules for converting old characters. I have found it almost not worth it, unless updating NPC's.
savatage 05-28-07, 11:46 AM	I did it a long time ago but there is one more character a player wants to convert so.....
Edymnion 05-28-07, 01:21 PM	There are conversion rules, but let me tell you straight out that they are clunky and simply don't work. If you want to port a 2e or earlier character over to 3e, don't try to use automated conversion rules. Just rebuild him from the ground up in 3e. Take your concept, take how he liked to fight in 2e, and then try to replicate that in 3e. You will get a character that feels and plays much closer to the original than any conversion attempt could give, and its far less of a headache.
Salla 05-28-07, 05:03 PM	I agree with Edymnion on this one. The systems are very, very different ... you're better off just trying to get the feel of the original character rather than try a level-per-level duplication.
Edymnion 05-28-07, 06:11 PM	I agree with Edymnion on this one. The systems are very, very different ... you're better off just trying to get the feel of the original character rather than try a level-per-level duplication.Especially since a level per level duplication is flat out impossible if the original 2e character was dual classed.
Theskippingman 05-28-07, 09:59 PM	Actually...Edmynion (and Salla), I don't agree with you in this case. I used to have a similar view about AD&D-3e conversion manuals until I got my hands on the official WOTC one (which was light on the math to begin with). Read the PDF! It's a surprisingly level-headed approach. It has extremely little math (it's mostly filled with which old 'nonweapon proficiencies' correspond to what skills, which old spells correspond to which new spells, etc.), and wherever it uses any equation, it's in the most sensible way possible, and as an approximation of what the new total should/might be within the range of. And it includes a simple equation to handle the dual-classed characters, too. Far from being what one might blanket-criticize all AD&D-3e conversion manuals for, it's is all about retaining the flavor from the old games to something roughly approximate in the new. Theskippingman
Thunder Dragonbane 05-29-07, 07:50 PM	I had at one time the leaflet version of the conversion kit. It sucked so bad that even silgle classed characters could be diffacult to do. I still think that only NPC's should be converted because you will be dissapointed.
Edymnion 05-29-07, 07:53 PM	Actually...Edmynion (and Salla), I don't agree with you in this case. I used to have a similar view about AD&D-3e conversion manuals until I got my hands on the official WOTC one (which was light on the math to begin with).Man, I was using the official WotC one a month before 3e came out. I used it after getting the PHB before the DMG and MM came out. I've used the official one. Bottom line, using it will not get you better results than a scratch rebuild, and more often than not it will give you WORSE results.
Theskippingman 05-29-07, 09:25 PM	Even if you don't go by their approximate matches for AC, levels, attack bonus, etc., it's still really useful for knowing how spells/skills/magic items have been re-named and carried over to the current edition from the old, and a good approximation of ability scores, for example. Theskippingman