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Wizard_Master 11-30-07, 11:58 AM	I have played DND 3.5 for a small bit and I am going to learn how to DM first by running a pbem game (simple random dungeon for a few players). I was running a solo / random dungeon and ran into an interesting situation. I understand the concept of AOA / FLank and wanted to get your opinion: Here is the URL if the image I created of the situation: http://outpostatlantis.com/images/map1.JPG Ok my question: First question: Fighter A moves east (in the direction of the arrow in the image) 3 spaces (through two friendly characters (B and E). On the north and south of one of those characters (E - the wizard) are two kobolds (c). Does that mean the kobolds receive an AOA on the fighter as he passes through that hex and through the friendly character? Second question: Can someone attack another person around the corner? For example can the Cleric (B) attack one of the kobolds around the corner (or the fighter D for that matter)? If yes I would imagine that the kobolds have some sort of cover? Thanks! -Dave
catdragon 11-30-07, 03:28 PM	When a figure has cover from an enemy, he doesn't draw an AOO; the cover blocks it. That's in the PHB. Now, do your allies provide cover for you when you move through their areas? I can't find a ruling on that. I play in a campaign and run a campaign where your allies provide cover from AoOs, a fact the monsters use just as much as the PCs. But I run a third game where allies do not provide cover. So IMO, its a house rule based on what you like best. personally if i was to pick i would say that an ally does not cover, but i usually leave it to a vote of the players.
Escef 11-30-07, 03:33 PM	Q1: Yes. Q2: You can attack "around" a corner so long as you have line of sight from any part of your square to any part of the opponents. However, the opponent gains a +4 cover bonus to AC. Also, creatures with cover relative to an enemy cannot suffer an Attack of Opportunity. (AoO is the term you were looking for, not AOA. Just letting you know about the proper boards slang, it'll make communicating easier.) Not that movement out of cover may provoke an AoO once the cover has been moved past.
Escef 11-30-07, 03:35 PM	Now, do your allies provide cover for you when you move through their areas? I can't find a ruling on that. I play in a campaign and run a campaign where your allies provide cover from AoOs, a fact the monsters use just as much as the PCs. As near as I can tell, allies can provide you with "soft cover" which counts as cover against ranged attacks, but not melee.
Novacat 12-05-07, 03:43 AM	As near as I can tell, allies can provide you with "soft cover" which counts as cover against ranged attacks, but not melee. Only if he's behind the ally, not in the same square. Note these quotes: To determine whether your target has cover from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target’s square passes through a square or border that blocks line of effect or provides cover, or through a square occupied by a creature, the target has cover (+4 to AC). When making a melee attack against an adjacent target, your target has cover if any line from your square to the target’s square goes through a wall (including a low wall). When making a melee attack against a target that isn’t adjacent to you (such as with a reach weapon), use the rules for determining cover from ranged attacks. A low obstacle (such as a wall no higher than half your height) provides cover, but only to creatures within 30 feet (6 squares) of it. The attacker can ignore the cover if he’s closer to the obstacle than his target. Question 1: Yes, he provokes an AoO. His allies do not provide cover. Question 2: Yes, and the target gains the benefit of cover. Note that you cannot make an AoO if your target has cover against you. That image..... you play Realmz, don't you?
Phrennzy 12-05-07, 10:40 AM	I love your map.