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Jerusalem 03-01-04, 02:08 PM	I'm sure this has been covered somewhere before, but a search of the boards didn't turn up anything. Is there a 'master list' of the abbreviations for all of the prestige classes and classes produced by WotC to date? If there is, where is it? If there isn't, shouldn't there be one? More often than not I am left wondering what a specific abbreviation is. This information *should* be in the prestige class info, but more often than not it's missing.
Findas 03-01-04, 03:17 PM	I agree that there should be a comprehensive, updated list somewhere. The only list I know of is at paizo.com, under the Dungeon submissions guidelines. It lists all the classes in the 3.0 PHB and DMG: Abj = Abjurer Adp = Adept Arc = Arcane Archer Ari = Aristocrat Asn = Assassin Bbn = Barbarian Blk = Blackguard Brd = Bard Clr = Cleric Cjr = Conjurer Com = Commoner Def = Dwarven Defender Div = Diviner Drd = Druid Enc = Enchanter Evo = Evoker Exp = Expert Ftr = Fighter Ill = Illusionist Lor = Loremaster Mnk = Monk Nec = Necromancer Pal = Paladin Rgr = Ranger Rog = Rogue Shd = Shadowdancer Sor = Sorcerer Tra = Transmuter War = Warrior Wiz = Wizard
The Swedish Viking 03-01-04, 03:43 PM	Eldritch Knight then? Thaumaturgist? Horizon Walker? Hierophant? What about them?
Jerusalem 03-01-04, 04:21 PM	Great! That's a wonderful start. Let's see if we can get a complete list. This is from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. They actually mention the abbreviation in the 'requirements' section of the class, but I will include them here for the list. Dev = Arcane Devotee Acm = Archmage Chm = Divine Champion Dis = Divine Disciple Skr = Divine Seeker Gld = Guild Thief Hrp = Harper Scout Hth = Hathran (Witch of Rashemen) Hie = Hierophant Prp = Purple Dragon Knight Red = Red Wizard Rnc = Runecaster Sha = Shadow Adept
Jerusalem 03-01-04, 04:49 PM	Here's a list for the Complete Warrior. Again, no abbreviations are given, so the following are proposed (by me). If an official abbreviation exists somewhere, point it out and I'll update this list. The trend seems to be to strip out the vowels from the first word or second word, or have the first three letters if they'd be instantly recognized, so I'll try and stick with that. Sticking to three letters is also hard, but that's not a hard rule... Hex = Hexblade Sam = Samurai Swa = Swashbuckler (SwB?) BeaW = Bear Warrior (Bea? BWa?) BldS = Bladesinger (Bld? BSi?) Cav = Cavalier DrkH = Dark Hunter (Drk?) DrkSt = Darkwood Stalker (DSt?) Der = Dervish (Drv?) Dkn = Drunken Master (DrM?) EWM = Exotic Weapons Master (Exo?) EoG = Eye of Gruumsh (Gru?) Ber = Frenzied Berserker (FBr?) GGS = Gnome Giant Slayer Out = Halfling Outrider Hur = Hulking Hurler HotD = Hunter of the Dead Inv = Invisible Blade (IBld?) Jus = Justiciar Ken = Kensai Cha = Knight of the Chalice (KotC?) Pro = Knight Protector (KPr?) Thr = Master Thrower (MTh?) MHa = Master of the Unseen Hand (Hand? Uns?) MSpy = Mindspy (Mnd? MSp?) NWa = Nature's Warrior (Nat?) Occ = Occult Slayer (Ocs?) Bow = Order of the Bow Initiate (OBI?) Prp = Purple Dragon Knight (covered in FRCS) RgM = Rage Mage Rav = Ravager Mau = Reaping Mauler (Reap? RpM?) Ron = Ronin Sps = Spellsword (SSw?) SLo = Stonelord (Stl?) Ttt = Tattoed Monk (TMnk? TtM?) Tha = Thayan Knight (I think this is covered elsewhere, perhaps in Unapproachable East) WCh = War Chanter WSh = Warshaper I note that WotC doesn't bother with abbreviations in recent listings. Maybe the list of prestige classes has grown too long to be easily summarized. :b:
Findas 03-01-04, 05:59 PM	Originally posted by The Swedish Viking Eldritch Knight then? Thaumaturgist? Horizon Walker? Hierophant? What about them? Paizo obviously hasn't updated that part of the guidelines to 3.5. I edited my previous post to reflect that - thanks SV. There's also the Arcane Trickster, Archmage, Dragon Disciple, Duelist, Mystic Theurge and Red Wizard. Maybe they've gotten overwhelmed with the proliferation of classes. It would be nice to hear something one way or the other though.
Eltheynn 03-02-04, 11:56 AM	Originally posted by Jerusalem Bear Warrior= BWa Bladesinger = BdS Dark Hunter = DkH Darkwood Stalker = DwS Dervish = Drv Drunken Master = DrM Frenzied Berserker = FBr or FrB Halfling Outrider = HOr Hulking Hurler = HuH :P Hunter of the Dead = HoD Invisible Blade = IBd Knight of the Chalice = KoC Knight Protector = KPr Master Thrower = MTw, as MTh may be Mystic Theurge Master of the Unseen Hand = MUA. Duh... Mindspy = MSp Occult Slayer =OSl Order of the Bow Initiate = OBI RgM = Rage Mage Rav = Ravager Reaping Mauler = RpM Ron = Ronin Spellsword = SSw Stonelord = Stl Tattoed Monk = TtM I like those better, but this is just my opinion, I haven't checked if there are any abbreviations for them. I think some of them may be in Trollbill's Dictionary, at the top of the page...
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 01:08 PM	Originally posted by Eltheynn I like those better, but this is just my opinion, I haven't checked if there are any abbreviations for them. I think some of them may be in Trollbill's Dictionary, at the top of the page... Trollbill's dictionary? Where is it, I don't see it at the top of the page. I agree that your abbrevs make more sense than mine! :D So with your revisions, it's... Hex = Hexblade Sam = Samurai Swa = Swashbuckler Bear Warrior= BWa Bladesinger = BdS Cavalier = Cav Dark Hunter = DkH Darkwood Stalker = DSt Dervish = Drv Drunken Master = DrM Exotic Weapons Master = EWM Eye of Gruumsh = EoG Frenzied Berserker = FBr or FrB Gnome Giant Slayer = GGS Halfling Outrider = HOr Hulking Hurler = HuH Hunter of the Dead = HoD Invisible Blade = IBd Justiciar = Jus Kensai = Ken Knight of the Chalice = KoC Knight Protector = KPr Master Thrower = MTw, as MTh may be Mystic Theurge Master of the Unseen Hand = MUA. Duh... Mindspy = MSp Nature's Warrior = NWa Occult Slayer =OSl Order of the Bow Initiate = OotBI (alternative OBI) Purple Dragon Knight = Prp RgM = Rage Mage Rav = Ravager Reaping Mauler = RpM Ron = Ronin Spellsword = SSw Stonelord = Stl Tattoed Monk = TtM Thayan Knight = Tha War Chanter = WCh Warshaper = WSh
ksbsnowowl 03-02-04, 01:36 PM	If you are only doing 3.5 published PrC's, then ignore this. I'd be careful with some of those. For example, you have Darkwood Stalker as DwS; the Deepwood Sniper has been around a lot longer than that one, and it has gone by DWS for over 2 years now. Also, the generally accepted abbriviation for Order of the Bow Initiate on the boards is OotBI, but you may be trying to keep them at 3 letters. If so, what you've got is fine.
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 01:43 PM	From the book of Vile Darkness... Cancer Mage = CMg Demonologist = Dem Diabolist = Dia Disciple of Asmodeus = DAs Disciple of Baalzebub = DBa Disciple of Dispater = DDi Disciple of Mammon = DMa Disciple of Mephistopheles = DMe Lifedrinker = LDr Mortal Hunter = MHu Soul Eater = SlE Thrall of Demogorgon = ThD Thrall of Graz'zt = ThG Thrall of Juiblex = ThJ Thrall of Orcus = ThO Ur-priest = UrP Vermin Lord = VrL Warrior of Darkness = WaD Sometimes I wonder at the proliferation of prestige classes. Choice is good, but do we really need so many? From the Book of Exalted Deeds: Anointed Knight = Akn Apostle of Peace = ApP Beloved of Valarian = BeV Celestial Mystic = CeM Champion of Gwynharwhyf = Gwy Defender of Sealtiel = DeS Emissary of Barachiel = EmB Exalted Arcanist = ExA Fist of Raziel = FiR Initiate of Pistis Sophia = Pis Lion of Talisid = LTa Prophet of Erathaol = PrE Risen Martyr = RiM Sentinel of Bharrai = SBh Skylord = SkL Slayer of Domiel = SDo Stalker of Kharash = SKh Swanmay = SwM Sword of Righteousness = SwR Troubadour of Stars = TSt Vassal of Bahamut = VaB Wonderworker = Wnd If I'm duplicating anything let me know. :cool:
The Swedish Viking 03-02-04, 01:47 PM	(head hurts) Why not just hand all these lists over to that chap who mad the PrC compilation, with links to most of them, on this board, and ask him to sort them out?
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 01:50 PM	Originally posted by ksbsnowowl If you are only doing 3.5 published PrC's, then ignore this. I'd be careful with some of those. For example, you have Darkwood Stalker as DwS; the Deepwood Sniper has been around a lot longer than that one, and it has gone by DWS for over 2 years now. Also, the generally accepted abbriviation for Order of the Bow Initiate on the boards is OotBI, but you may be trying to keep them at 3 letters. If so, what you've got is fine. I'm doing both 3.0 and 3.5, so thank you for pointing that out. I'll change Darkwood Stalker to DSt in the aforementioned entry. :) I am trying to keep it to 3 letters but even restricting it to WotC-only prestige classes it may not be possible. Also, I would like to stick to 'official' abbrevs wherever possible, and if not possible to common usage. Personally I think OotBI makes more sense, so I'll list it as an alternative. :behold: I want to create a useful list with abbreviations that are intuitive. Perhaps an impossible task, but I'm going to try. :cool:
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 02:30 PM	Originally posted by The Swedish Viking (head hurts) Why not just hand all these lists over to that chap who mad the PrC compilation, with links to most of them, on this board, and ask him to sort them out? I'm putting what I have into a spreadsheet right now, this way I can check for duplicates. Once everything's in it I'll post it to this thread and send an e-mail to the PrC guy ;)
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 02:53 PM	Good news, so far there are no duplicates. From Underdark: Ara Arachnomancer CLd Cavelord DeD Deep Diviner DJu Drow Judicator IBT Illithid Body Tamer IVT Imaskari Vengeance Taker IotDG Inquisitor of the Drowning Goddess PUG Prime Underdark Guide SMW Sea Mother Whip ShC Shadowcrafter VrK Vermin Keeper YWb Yathchol Webrider
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 02:59 PM	From Song & Silence: DPi Dread Pirate Del Dungeon Delver FoL Fang of Lolth OotCR Outlaw of the Crimson Road RyE Royal Explorer Spy Spymaster TmR Temple Raider of Olidammara TAc Thief-Acrobat Vig Vigilante Vir Virtuoso
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 03:05 PM	From Tome & Blood AcS - Acolyte of the Skin Ali - Alienist BlM - Blood magus CCa - Candle Caster ESa - Elemental Savant Fat - Fatespinner MotAO - Mage of the Arcane Order MBd - Mindbender PaM - Pale Master TNe - True Necromancer Way - Wayfarer Guide
Eltheynn 03-02-04, 03:09 PM	Originally posted by Jerusalem Trollbill's dictionary? Where is it, I don't see it at the top of the page. I agree that your abbrevs make more sense than mine! :D Trollbill's Dictionary is, indeed at the top of the D&D General Board, here (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46916). So Darkwood Stalker was repeated? Hmmm... OK, no biggie... Can't remember every damn abbreviation now, can I? Edit: Delete the "Duh" next to Master of the Unseen Hand...
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 03:11 PM	From Defenders of the Faith... Inq - Church Inquisitor Har - Consecrated Harrier Con - Contemplative DOr - Divine Oracle Hol - Holy Liberator Hos - Hospitaler KMC - Knight of the Middle Circle Shr - Master of Shrouds Exo - Sacred Exorcist SFi - Sacred Fist Tem - Templar WPr - War Priest
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 03:18 PM	From Masters of the Wild... AnL - Animal Lord BoI - Bane of Infidels Bli - Blighter BHd - Bloodhound DSn - Deepwood Sniper FHu - Foe Hunter For - Forsaker Geo - Geomancer Hxr - Hexer KQW - King/Queen of the Wild Ooz - Oozemaster Shf - Shifter ToB - Tamer of Beasts Tmp - Tempest Vrd - Verdant Lord WtD - Watch Detective WnR - Windrider
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 03:23 PM	From Races of Faerun (still no duplicates!) :cool: BtR - Battlerager BrG - Breachgnome EHM - Elven High Mage GRS - Great Rift Skyguard OWa - Orc Warlord SpS - Spellsinger WSk - Warrior Skald WSl - Warsling Sniper
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 03:31 PM	From Faiths and Pantheons... Arh - Arachne Aus - Auspician DGu - Doomguide DMs - Dreadmaster DwK - Dweomerkeeper EAr - Elemental Archon FMa - Forest Master GdE - Goldeye HrW - Heartwarder HHa - Horned Harbinger NCl - Nightcloak OcA - Ocular Adept SvS - Silverstar SLo - Stormlord Str - Strifeleader SwD - Sword Dancer TSm - Techsmith WvS - Waveservant WoP - Wearer of Purple WWa - Windwalker
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 03:35 PM	From Lords of Darkness.... ZSk - Zhentarim Skymage SpL - Spur Lord DMs - Darkmask
ksbsnowowl 03-02-04, 03:37 PM	You forgot to list Deepwood Sniper from Masters of the Wild.
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 04:23 PM	So, I'm still missing the abbrevs from the following sourcebooks: Magic of Faerun Sword and Fist Unapproachable East Minature's Handbook Unearched Arcana I have MoF, MH, S&F and UnA, so I'll post those later, but I'm missing Unapproachable East. Can someone list the prestige classes in that sourcebook so I can create abbrevs from them, or can someone suggest abbrevs from that book? Any other core rulebooks I'm missing?
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 04:27 PM	Originally posted by ksbsnowowl You forgot to list Deepwood Sniper from Masters of the Wild. Ooops! Rectified.
Eltheynn 03-02-04, 04:54 PM	Magic of Faerun: Gnome Artificer: GnA or GAr (not official, AFAIK) Guild Wizard of Waterdeep: GWW (not official, AFAIK) Harper Mage: HrM (not official, AFAIK) Harper Priest: HrP (not official, AFAIK) Incantatrix: Inc (not official, AFAIK) Mage-killer: MgK (not official, AFAIK) Master Alchemist: MaA or MAl (not official, AFAIK) Mystic Wanderer: MyW or MWa (not official, AFAIK) Spelldancer: Spd (not official, AFAIK) Spellfire Channeler: SfC (not official, AFAIK) War Wizard of Cormyr: WWC (not official, AFAIK) More to come...
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 05:59 PM	Excellent! Thank you! :D Keep 'em coming! It's almost done, and then I'll post the aggregated list.
Jerusalem 03-02-04, 07:12 PM	Incidentally, I'm up to 231 classes and prestige classes. :eek:
Jerusalem 03-03-04, 12:36 AM	From Sword & Fist... Def - Devoted Defender FHx - Fist of Hextor GhW - Ghostwalker Gla - Gladiator Lsh - Lasher MoC - Master of Chains MSa - Master Samurai NCM - Ninja of the Crescent Moon RdA - Red Avenger TrP - Tribal Protector WMa - Warmaster WpM - Weapon Master
Jerusalem 03-03-04, 12:41 AM	From the Miniature's Handbook... Fav - Favoured Soul Hea - Healer Mar - Marshal WMg - Warmage BSu - Bonded Summoner DrS - Dragon Samurai HvM - Havoc Mage SHu - Skullclan Hunter TcS - Tactical Soldier Whk - Warhulk Wcf - Warchief
Jerusalem 03-03-04, 12:51 AM	From Unearthed Arcana... TBb - Totem Barbarian UA BdS - Bardic Sage UA SvB - Savage Bard UA DvB - Divine Bard UA ClC - Cloistered Cleric UA DrA - Druidic Avenger UA Thu - Thug UA PalH - Paladin of Honor UA PalF - Paladin of Freedom UA PalS - Paladin of Slaughter UA PalT - Paladin of Tyranny UA PlR - Planar Ranger UA UrR - Urban Ranger UA WiR - Wilderness Rogue UA BSo - Battle Sorceror UA DWi - Domain Wizard UA Dro - Drow Paragon UA Dwa - Dwarf Paragon UA Elf - Elf Paragon UA Gno - Gnome Paragon UA HDr - Half-dragon Paragon UA HEl - Half-elf Paragon UA HlO - Half-orc Paragon UA Hal - Halfling Paragon UA Hum - Human Paragon UA Orc - Orc Paragon UA Tie - Tiefling Paragon UA
Jerusalem 03-03-04, 01:03 AM	From the Silver Marches... GKi - Giant-Killer Hrd - Hordebreaker KES - Knight-Errant of Silverymoon OSc - Orc Scout PrA - Peerless Archer WSc - Wild Scout And that's it... Should I post the whole compiled list here, or in a new thread?
ksbsnowowl 03-03-04, 01:08 AM	You accidently titled your Unearthed Arcana post as being from the MiniHB. Just thought you'd like to know;) Do you have the ones from Dragonlance? IIRC, WotC did the main book.
Eltheynn 03-03-04, 04:43 AM	None of those are official, but hey... From the Psionics Handbook: Metamind = MtM Pyrokineticist = Pyr Slayer = Sla Soulblade = Sbl From Savage Species: Emancipated Spawn = EmS or ESp Illithid Savant = Ill or IlS or ISa Master of Flies = MoF or MFl Scaled Horror = ScH Siren = Sir Slaad Brooder = SBr or SlB Survivor = Sur Sybil = Syb Waverider =Wvr Yuan-Ti Cultist = YTC or Cul From Ghostwalk: Eidolon = Eid Eidoloncer = Eln or Edn
Jerusalem 03-03-04, 02:10 PM	Originally posted by ksbsnowowl You accidently titled your Unearthed Arcana post as being from the MiniHB. Just thought you'd like to know;) Do you have the ones from Dragonlance? IIRC, WotC did the main book. Ooops, thanks for pointing that out (fixed). Alas, I don't have the Dragonlance book. But if you (or anyone else) wants to have a crack at it, post it here and I'll add it to the master list (303 entries and counting). :)
Jerusalem 03-03-04, 02:11 PM	Originally posted by Eltheynn None of those are official, but hey... Added them to the list. Thanks! :) Is Ghostwalk a WotC product? Should the 'race classes' also be added? Any other books that should be added?
ksbsnowowl 03-03-04, 03:43 PM	Ghost Walk is a WotC product.
Jerusalem 03-03-04, 04:25 PM	I'm tapped out for material. As far as I know I don't have the following: Unapproachable East Dragonlance But what I have is the lion's share, so I'm going to post the list in a new thread and send an e-mail to WotC/Paizo guy responsible for the current official 'abbreviations'.
Delron 03-28-04, 12:27 AM	has anyone heard of the following: warlocks dream catchers moon watchers undead masters dragon lords if ya have, would you kindly tell me where i might find some information on them?