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maldron

10-04-07, 04:22 PM
If i am 2 cleric/2 druid and take "practiced spellcaster" for druid the character becomes 2cleric/4 druid. What happens if i take an actual level of druid next?

Does it go to 2cleric/5 druid?

I'm confused as to how you would pick up a level in a class you left off on with this feat. Can you progress normally in it now at the higher level or do you have to "catch up" to the level you have augmented it to before moving it up naturally thus starting at the "actual" level no the spellcaster level?

Do you also get to select spells from the higher level the feat put you at or you still only get spells that you had before hand, just iwth a higher dc?
Tempest Stormwind

10-04-07, 04:49 PM
1) Please refrain from creating multiple threads.

2) Practiced Spellcaster does not give you any extra spellcasting capability. You still retain the spells and slots you had at the lower level. However, every spell references your level in some way -- usually range, duration, and/or effect (i.e. 1d6 damage per level), but also in how it interacts with dispels and spell resistance. For those purposes, the spells that you had are cast as if you were higher level than you are.

Thus, Cleric 2 / Druid 2 with PC: Druid has only 1st level spells and only the slots available to those two classes at level 2. However, if he casts, say, Summon Nature's Ally I (lasts 1 round per level), the spell lasts 4 rounds. His druidic Cure Light Wounds heals 1d8+4 instead of the 1d8+2 it would have without the feat. And so on.

When you take your third level of druid, you continue to add it together. You get access to 2nd level spells and the slots of a 3rd level druid, and your druid caster level is 5 (2 class, +4 Practiced Spellcaster, but PC can't raise it above your actual character level, so 5), so those spells you cast take effect as if you were 5th level (though you only have the spells of a 3rd level druid).
Pinwarp

10-04-07, 04:50 PM
Practiced Spellcaster works like this:

If you are a Druid2/Cleric2, that means that you have access to the spell lists of each of those classes (ie, you have first level spells for both.) Now, Your total Character level is 4, but in each class, your CASTER level is only 2. so, when casting spells, you cast druid spells at CL2, and Cleric spells at CL2 (for effects that depend on Caster level, such as duration, damage dice, range, etc.)

The advantage of Practiced spellcaster is, you can count yourself up to 4 levels higher in the class you take it in, for the purpose of calculating caster levels. For example, say you leveled up unevenly, to say Druid2/Cleric6. normally, you would still only have access to First level druid spell list, with a CL for druid spells of 2, while your Cleric spell list is now up to third level spells, and your caster level when casting Cleric spells is 6. With Practiced Spellcaster (druid), you can consider yourself 4 levels higher for Caster level when casting druid spells...HOWEVER! this does not give you access to higher level spells, it just increases the effects of the spells you CAN cast as if you were higher level. Does this make sense?

It is basically a way of keeping your spells growing in power without having to put actual levels into the class. It's not as good as actual levels, because it doesn't give you access to new spells, but it's better than being a level 8 character, and still casting a say, bulls strength that only lasts 2 rounds :P.

I've used this feat to great effect when i made a Warmage/fighter. At level 10, i was Warmage 6/Fighter 4...but i took practised spellcaster, so all my damage was being done as if i was a Warmage 10, with increased durations, range, etc. I didn't have 4th or 5th level spells, as i would if i was Warmage 10, but it made my 1-3rd level spells remain competitive even as a branched into fighter for extra BAB, feats, and hp.

Hope this helped.

EDIT: Beaten to it :P