Classic characters! [Archive] - Wizards Community

Classic characters! [Archive] - Wizards Community

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happycows
02-04-05, 07:02 AM Nebin, Redgar, Mailee, Tordek, & etc. All in the 3.5 PHB (they are also in 3.0).

What kind of classes and prestige classes do they have? Are there stories on them? What skills and feats do they possess?
Draco Strang
02-04-05, 07:19 AM Well, actually they're called "Iconic Characters", not classic characters. Also yes, there are stats for them beyond 1st level. If you have the D&D Adventure module Bastion of Broken Souls, Lidda, Tordek, Mialee and Jozan are all statted at 18th level.

Lemme tell you, that little halfling is a monster by the time she's that powerful...geez oh man, check her stats and equipment.

Also, in the 3.0 splatbook Enemies and Allies (which is out of print I think, but I'm sure your bookstore could order one) has stats for each of the iconic characters in the PHB at every 5th level. So, Krusk, Regdar, Alahandra, Vadania, and all the rest of the gang have their stats.

Finally, if you look around, there were a bunch of pulp novels written under the pen name T.H. Lain that dealt with these guys. Each of them are pretty easy reads, about 160 pages each, and deal with various 4-group adventure parties that are comprised of the iconic characters. They rotate in and out each book, so each character is represented at least once, but the books mainly seem to focus on Regdar and Lidda.

There ya go...hope it helps.
Emrick Blackthorn
02-04-05, 09:43 AM Now here's a list of classic characters. They were used in the early days of D&D and AD&D. They did cameos on the cartoon and there was even a D&D toy line (http://www.toyarchive.com/DungeonsDragonsFigures.html) that used them as their base and even more to follow.

Mercion, Figgen, Peralay, Elkhorn, Ringlerun and Strongheart

Fox Fingers, Zargash, Zarak, Skylla, Kelek, Raven and Warduke
Draco Strang
02-04-05, 11:53 AM Warduke? You have got to be kidding me.
Mootilator
02-04-05, 12:15 PM Hey! Warduke is all strong! His stats were in Dungeon not long ago. To be honest about it, he was what everyone in my 1st ed. group had in mind when they wanted to play an anti-Paladin years ago. I'd say he's classic, but I'm no authority on the matter. To be precise, he's probably a classic NPC, but a character nonetheless.

Oh, and...

MMmmm. Lidda. :P
Draco Strang
02-04-05, 01:41 PM Ok, first off, Lidda's about 1/3rd your size. That has to constitute a crime somewhere in Waterdeep.

Secondly, I'm not bagging on Warduke for anything except his name.

As I said.....Warduke......
Nytmare
02-04-05, 01:56 PM A name like Draco Strang and he's cutting on Warduke?
Draco Strang
02-04-05, 03:12 PM A name like Draco Strang and he's cutting on Warduke?
OUch.....that was harsh. I hope you're in jest, because that brilliant alternate spelling of Nightmare to "Nytmare" isn't exactly the cutting edge in fantasy monikers either, my friend.

"Oh, I added a Y to my name, I'm unique and mysterious now."

If you say so.

Seriously, if you must know, the Draco came from my old Ultima Online character way, way back in the day. Strang is a combination of the old "Sturm and Drang" (translates to Storm and Stress) argument posed by a German philosopher. I picked up on it from the Star Wars universe. Smuggler Talon Karrde had a pair of pet Vornskrs named Sturm and Drang, and I was sorta rolled the two together.

Go ahead, I'll take your apology anytime.... :devil:
Mootilator
02-04-05, 03:35 PM Ok, first off, Lidda's about 1/3rd your size. That has to constitute a crime somewhere in Waterdeep.

*sniff* Sometimes...sometimes words can hurt.... :weep:

Just because I'm a human doesn't mean I should be denied sweet halfling love. Don't fence me in! :dancin: :rofl:
Nytmare
02-04-05, 04:17 PM Oh, I added a Y to my name, I'm unique and mysterious now.

Hey man, back when I was 8 and came up with this name it WAS unique and mysterious. Also it was the only way I could fit 'nightmare' onto a vanity license plate.
Wildonion
02-04-05, 04:29 PM *sniff* Sometimes...sometimes words can hurt.... :weep:

Just because I'm a human doesn't mean I should be denied sweet halfling love. Don't fence me in! :dancin: :rofl:

Thats just wrong! Go for an elf! They are only about a foot shorter! *Grins* Though I can't lame you for think lidda is hot....
Mootilator
02-04-05, 05:15 PM Thats just wrong! Go for an elf! They are only about a foot shorter! *Grins* Though I can't lame you for think lidda is hot....

;) Now there's an honest lad.

Although a drow woman is nothing to shake a stick at. Err...
The Shaman
02-04-05, 05:20 PM Just because I'm a human doesn't mean I should be denied sweet halfling love. Don't fence me in!:
:rofl:
Fox Lee
02-04-05, 05:29 PM Just because I'm a human doesn't mean I should be denied sweet halfling love. Don't fence me in! :dancin: :rofl:
Damn straight! Size difference didn't stop my 6'6" Barbarian Elf woman from getting some fiiiiiine halfling love, and it shouldn't stop you :D
TigerWolfe
02-04-05, 05:30 PM Now here's a list of classic characters. They were used in the early days of D&D and AD&D. They did cameos on the cartoon and there was even a D&D toy line (http://www.toyarchive.com/DungeonsDragonsFigures.html) that used them as their base and even more to follow.

Mercion, Figgen, Peralay, Elkhorn, Ringlerun and Strongheart

Fox Fingers, Zargash, Zarak, Skylla, Kelek, Raven and Warduke

I actually have an older dnd book that gives stats on all of them.
Nytmare
02-04-05, 05:35 PM Yeah, Emrick and I were just talking about this in private.

Now he has me digging through boxes trying to find my "Quest for the Heartstone" adventure.
TigerWolfe
02-04-05, 05:38 PM The book i have is actually just a book of npc's um the name is like the (adjective) dragon inn it has like a purpley cover and is not hardback. Hmm If no one posts the name i'll look for it.
Mootilator
02-04-05, 05:40 PM Damn straight! Size difference didn't stop my 6'6" Barbarian Elf woman from getting some fiiiiiine halfling love, and it shouldn't stop you :D

I need specifics, Fox Lee. Need the info. And say it reeeeeallly slow. :mymy: :drool: :plotting: :dancin: :clap: :ayyyy!:

Jus' kiddin', darlin'. ;)
Nytmare
02-04-05, 05:42 PM The book i have is actually just a book of npc's um the name is like the (adjective) dragon inn it has like a purpley cover and is not hardback. Hmm If no one posts the name i'll look for it.

You mean "The Shady Dragon Inn" (http://www.rpgunited.com/product/default/tsr9100.html)? I'll dig that one out too.
Nuntius128
02-04-05, 06:12 PM In defense of halfling women, to quote Chris Parnell from some episode of saturday Night live:
"They make me feel BIG."
:dancin:
TigerWolfe
02-04-05, 06:17 PM You mean "The Shady Dragon Inn" (http://www.rpgunited.com/product/default/tsr9100.html)? I'll dig that one out too.

Yep that's the one i have although i can't find it right now.
Mootilator
02-04-05, 07:20 PM In defense of halfling women, to quote Chris Parnell from some episode of saturday Night live:
"They make me feel BIG."
:dancin:

*ahem* That...uh, that has, uh...nothing to do with my affection for Lidda, and I'll than you to never bring it up again. I don't need anything to make me feel big. I, uh, I just think she's purdy. Yeah. She's purdy. That's all it is. :blush:

Errm...hey! What's that over there!?

;)
Darth K'Trava
02-04-05, 07:25 PM Boy..... we've gone from iconic characters to the mature forum....in only a few posts........ :twitch:
Mootilator
02-04-05, 07:44 PM I'm seeking help. :D
Darth K'Trava
02-04-05, 10:19 PM From who? Dr. Phil? :P
Darth K'Trava
02-04-05, 10:21 PM *ahem* That...uh, that has, uh...nothing to do with my affection for Lidda, and I'll than you to never bring it up again. I don't need anything to make me feel big. I, uh, I just think she's purdy. Yeah. She's purdy. That's all it is. :blush:

Errm...hey! What's that over there!?

;)

Heh. You shoulda been around when we had Jozan and Lidda "make out".... :P That was quite comical......
Solaris
02-04-05, 11:00 PM heheh. STRONGHEART(TM) Good Paladin and WARDUKE(TM) Evil Fighter. Those were the days.
Emrick Blackthorn
02-05-05, 12:30 AM You mean "The Shady Dragon Inn" (http://www.rpgunited.com/product/default/tsr9100.html)?

I used to have that book too, but it's gone now. I was lucky enough to get it in PDF form. I looked at the link anyway and saw a slight mistake on it. They have the producer being WotC and if you look at the cover you can clearly see TSR printed on it.
TigerWolfe
02-05-05, 05:25 PM I used to have that book too, but it's gone now. I was lucky enough to get it in PDF form. I looked at the link anyway and saw a slight mistake on it. They have the producer being WotC and if you look at the cover you can clearly see TSR printed on it.

Hehe that's funny. I just noticed that.
CapnSwashbuckler
02-05-05, 08:23 PM Boy..... we've gone from iconic characters to the mature forum....in only a few posts........ :twitch:

"Mature" convos are usually anything but.
Solaris
02-05-05, 08:45 PM "Mature" convos are usually anything but.

*applause*
Nytmare
02-05-05, 10:08 PM I used to have that book too, but it's gone now. I was lucky enough to get it in PDF form. I looked at the link anyway and saw a slight mistake on it. They have the producer being WotC and if you look at the cover you can clearly see TSR printed on it.

Since WOTC bought TSR wouldn't that change the "producer" even though it was no longer being made?
happycows
02-06-05, 07:23 PM I am currently playing 3.5 and I want to play some iconic characters. Like Gimble the bard who travels the land by his wits (read him in the alignment description and looked at the Bard picture he seems cool). Nebin the illusionist. The cleric doesn't seem so bad and Redgar is cool.

I'll pick up some of those books and read it sometime. Hopefully I'll see some obvious feats like improved sunder or something... hard to tell if someone has improved toughness etc.
Darth K'Trava
02-06-05, 08:28 PM Regdar is abt the most developed of the bunch. He's got the most "screen time" in various scenarios. After that, maybe Hennet and Nebin who go great together. Jozan who seems to go ga-ga when he sees a hot fighting chick (Alhandra) and abt can't concentrate on what he's doing as a result. Devis is basically the womanizer type. Mialee the studious, gets tipsy after a light drink, mage. The rest are so-so in their fleshing-out characterizations.
Darth K'Trava
02-06-05, 08:28 PM "Mature" convos are usually anything but.

Ain't that the truth! :D

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
happycows 02-04-05, 07:02 AM	Nebin, Redgar, Mailee, Tordek, & etc. All in the 3.5 PHB (they are also in 3.0). What kind of classes and prestige classes do they have? Are there stories on them? What skills and feats do they possess?
Draco Strang 02-04-05, 07:19 AM	Well, actually they're called "Iconic Characters", not classic characters. Also yes, there are stats for them beyond 1st level. If you have the D&D Adventure module Bastion of Broken Souls, Lidda, Tordek, Mialee and Jozan are all statted at 18th level. Lemme tell you, that little halfling is a monster by the time she's that powerful...geez oh man, check her stats and equipment. Also, in the 3.0 splatbook Enemies and Allies (which is out of print I think, but I'm sure your bookstore could order one) has stats for each of the iconic characters in the PHB at every 5th level. So, Krusk, Regdar, Alahandra, Vadania, and all the rest of the gang have their stats. Finally, if you look around, there were a bunch of pulp novels written under the pen name T.H. Lain that dealt with these guys. Each of them are pretty easy reads, about 160 pages each, and deal with various 4-group adventure parties that are comprised of the iconic characters. They rotate in and out each book, so each character is represented at least once, but the books mainly seem to focus on Regdar and Lidda. There ya go...hope it helps.
Emrick Blackthorn 02-04-05, 09:43 AM	Now here's a list of classic characters. They were used in the early days of D&D and AD&D. They did cameos on the cartoon and there was even a D&D toy line (http://www.toyarchive.com/DungeonsDragonsFigures.html) that used them as their base and even more to follow. Mercion, Figgen, Peralay, Elkhorn, Ringlerun and Strongheart Fox Fingers, Zargash, Zarak, Skylla, Kelek, Raven and Warduke
Draco Strang 02-04-05, 11:53 AM	Warduke? You have got to be kidding me.
Mootilator 02-04-05, 12:15 PM	Hey! Warduke is all strong! His stats were in Dungeon not long ago. To be honest about it, he was what everyone in my 1st ed. group had in mind when they wanted to play an anti-Paladin years ago. I'd say he's classic, but I'm no authority on the matter. To be precise, he's probably a classic NPC, but a character nonetheless. Oh, and... MMmmm. Lidda. :P
Draco Strang 02-04-05, 01:41 PM	Ok, first off, Lidda's about 1/3rd your size. That has to constitute a crime somewhere in Waterdeep. Secondly, I'm not bagging on Warduke for anything except his name. As I said.....Warduke......
Nytmare 02-04-05, 01:56 PM	A name like Draco Strang and he's cutting on Warduke?
Draco Strang 02-04-05, 03:12 PM	A name like Draco Strang and he's cutting on Warduke? OUch.....that was harsh. I hope you're in jest, because that brilliant alternate spelling of Nightmare to "Nytmare" isn't exactly the cutting edge in fantasy monikers either, my friend. "Oh, I added a Y to my name, I'm unique and mysterious now." If you say so. Seriously, if you must know, the Draco came from my old Ultima Online character way, way back in the day. Strang is a combination of the old "Sturm and Drang" (translates to Storm and Stress) argument posed by a German philosopher. I picked up on it from the Star Wars universe. Smuggler Talon Karrde had a pair of pet Vornskrs named Sturm and Drang, and I was sorta rolled the two together. Go ahead, I'll take your apology anytime.... :devil:
Mootilator 02-04-05, 03:35 PM	Ok, first off, Lidda's about 1/3rd your size. That has to constitute a crime somewhere in Waterdeep. sniff Sometimes...sometimes words can hurt.... :weep: Just because I'm a human doesn't mean I should be denied sweet halfling love. Don't fence me in! :dancin: :rofl:
Nytmare 02-04-05, 04:17 PM	Oh, I added a Y to my name, I'm unique and mysterious now. Hey man, back when I was 8 and came up with this name it WAS unique and mysterious. Also it was the only way I could fit 'nightmare' onto a vanity license plate.
Wildonion 02-04-05, 04:29 PM	sniff Sometimes...sometimes words can hurt.... :weep: Just because I'm a human doesn't mean I should be denied sweet halfling love. Don't fence me in! :dancin: :rofl: Thats just wrong! Go for an elf! They are only about a foot shorter! Grins Though I can't lame you for think lidda is hot....
Mootilator 02-04-05, 05:15 PM	Thats just wrong! Go for an elf! They are only about a foot shorter! Grins Though I can't lame you for think lidda is hot.... ;) Now there's an honest lad. Although a drow woman is nothing to shake a stick at. Err...
The Shaman 02-04-05, 05:20 PM	Just because I'm a human doesn't mean I should be denied sweet halfling love. Don't fence me in!: :rofl:
Fox Lee 02-04-05, 05:29 PM	Just because I'm a human doesn't mean I should be denied sweet halfling love. Don't fence me in! :dancin: :rofl: Damn straight! Size difference didn't stop my 6'6" Barbarian Elf woman from getting some fiiiiiine halfling love, and it shouldn't stop you :D
TigerWolfe 02-04-05, 05:30 PM	Now here's a list of classic characters. They were used in the early days of D&D and AD&D. They did cameos on the cartoon and there was even a D&D toy line (http://www.toyarchive.com/DungeonsDragonsFigures.html) that used them as their base and even more to follow. Mercion, Figgen, Peralay, Elkhorn, Ringlerun and Strongheart Fox Fingers, Zargash, Zarak, Skylla, Kelek, Raven and Warduke I actually have an older dnd book that gives stats on all of them.
Nytmare 02-04-05, 05:35 PM	Yeah, Emrick and I were just talking about this in private. Now he has me digging through boxes trying to find my "Quest for the Heartstone" adventure.
TigerWolfe 02-04-05, 05:38 PM	The book i have is actually just a book of npc's um the name is like the (adjective) dragon inn it has like a purpley cover and is not hardback. Hmm If no one posts the name i'll look for it.
Mootilator 02-04-05, 05:40 PM	Damn straight! Size difference didn't stop my 6'6" Barbarian Elf woman from getting some fiiiiiine halfling love, and it shouldn't stop you :D I need specifics, Fox Lee. Need the info. And say it reeeeeallly slow. :mymy: :drool: :plotting: :dancin: :clap: :ayyyy!: Jus' kiddin', darlin'. ;)
Nytmare 02-04-05, 05:42 PM	The book i have is actually just a book of npc's um the name is like the (adjective) dragon inn it has like a purpley cover and is not hardback. Hmm If no one posts the name i'll look for it. You mean "The Shady Dragon Inn" (http://www.rpgunited.com/product/default/tsr9100.html)? I'll dig that one out too.
Nuntius128 02-04-05, 06:12 PM	In defense of halfling women, to quote Chris Parnell from some episode of saturday Night live: "They make me feel BIG." :dancin:
TigerWolfe 02-04-05, 06:17 PM	You mean "The Shady Dragon Inn" (http://www.rpgunited.com/product/default/tsr9100.html)? I'll dig that one out too. Yep that's the one i have although i can't find it right now.
Mootilator 02-04-05, 07:20 PM	In defense of halfling women, to quote Chris Parnell from some episode of saturday Night live: "They make me feel BIG." :dancin: ahem That...uh, that has, uh...nothing to do with my affection for Lidda, and I'll than you to never bring it up again. I don't need anything to make me feel big. I, uh, I just think she's purdy. Yeah. She's purdy. That's all it is. :blush: Errm...hey! What's that over there!? ;)
Darth K'Trava 02-04-05, 07:25 PM	Boy..... we've gone from iconic characters to the mature forum....in only a few posts........ :twitch:
Mootilator 02-04-05, 07:44 PM	I'm seeking help. :D
Darth K'Trava 02-04-05, 10:19 PM	From who? Dr. Phil? :P
Darth K'Trava 02-04-05, 10:21 PM	ahem That...uh, that has, uh...nothing to do with my affection for Lidda, and I'll than you to never bring it up again. I don't need anything to make me feel big. I, uh, I just think she's purdy. Yeah. She's purdy. That's all it is. :blush: Errm...hey! What's that over there!? ;) Heh. You shoulda been around when we had Jozan and Lidda "make out".... :P That was quite comical......
Solaris 02-04-05, 11:00 PM	heheh. STRONGHEART(TM) Good Paladin and WARDUKE(TM) Evil Fighter. Those were the days.
Emrick Blackthorn 02-05-05, 12:30 AM	You mean "The Shady Dragon Inn" (http://www.rpgunited.com/product/default/tsr9100.html)? I used to have that book too, but it's gone now. I was lucky enough to get it in PDF form. I looked at the link anyway and saw a slight mistake on it. They have the producer being WotC and if you look at the cover you can clearly see TSR printed on it.
TigerWolfe 02-05-05, 05:25 PM	I used to have that book too, but it's gone now. I was lucky enough to get it in PDF form. I looked at the link anyway and saw a slight mistake on it. They have the producer being WotC and if you look at the cover you can clearly see TSR printed on it. Hehe that's funny. I just noticed that.
CapnSwashbuckler 02-05-05, 08:23 PM	Boy..... we've gone from iconic characters to the mature forum....in only a few posts........ :twitch: "Mature" convos are usually anything but.
Solaris 02-05-05, 08:45 PM	"Mature" convos are usually anything but. applause
Nytmare 02-05-05, 10:08 PM	I used to have that book too, but it's gone now. I was lucky enough to get it in PDF form. I looked at the link anyway and saw a slight mistake on it. They have the producer being WotC and if you look at the cover you can clearly see TSR printed on it. Since WOTC bought TSR wouldn't that change the "producer" even though it was no longer being made?
happycows 02-06-05, 07:23 PM	I am currently playing 3.5 and I want to play some iconic characters. Like Gimble the bard who travels the land by his wits (read him in the alignment description and looked at the Bard picture he seems cool). Nebin the illusionist. The cleric doesn't seem so bad and Redgar is cool. I'll pick up some of those books and read it sometime. Hopefully I'll see some obvious feats like improved sunder or something... hard to tell if someone has improved toughness etc.
Darth K'Trava 02-06-05, 08:28 PM	Regdar is abt the most developed of the bunch. He's got the most "screen time" in various scenarios. After that, maybe Hennet and Nebin who go great together. Jozan who seems to go ga-ga when he sees a hot fighting chick (Alhandra) and abt can't concentrate on what he's doing as a result. Devis is basically the womanizer type. Mialee the studious, gets tipsy after a light drink, mage. The rest are so-so in their fleshing-out characterizations.
Darth K'Trava 02-06-05, 08:28 PM	"Mature" convos are usually anything but. Ain't that the truth! :D