Commoner question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Commoner question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Windspear
12-31-07, 03:24 AM I saw in a bunch of subjects that commoner is really easily broken, and could be really powerful.
Excuse my skeptism, but I just can't see that happening. I would really like some proof for that claim.

Soooo...... How do you break the commoner?
Escef
12-31-07, 04:16 AM With a stick.
Windspear
12-31-07, 04:48 AM With a stick.
What?
I was actually expecting more of a build, rather than such a pointless answer.....
calronmoonflower
12-31-07, 05:50 AM What?
I was actually expecting more of a build, rather than such a pointless answer.....

It was clearly a joke, and rather funny in my opinion.

The commoner 20 as the most powerful class is a joke as well.
Sinfire Titan
12-31-07, 05:57 AM Cross-class ranks in UMD, Candle of Invocation+Pun+Pun trick. Blamo, broke the Commoner.
Fatalis_902
12-31-07, 10:46 AM Cross-class ranks in UMD, Candle of Invocation+Pun+Pun trick. Blamo, broke the Commoner.

That doesn't count.
vegetalss4
12-31-07, 11:11 AM That doesn't count.

why not;)
Fatalis_902
12-31-07, 12:38 PM why not;)

Cuz I can do the same thing with a level 1 Human Ardent, or any other class. That's not a broken commoner, that's Pun-Pun right there. He's broken no matter what you use as his base.
celestialkin
12-31-07, 12:52 PM Kinda related, but I always felt that at least one level in expert would actually be very good if you are doing certain characters. Maybe a rogue could benefit from such a thing?

Is there any merit to this theory?
Sinfire Titan
12-31-07, 06:57 PM Cuz I can do the same thing with a level 1 Human Ardent, or any other class. That's not a broken commoner, that's Pun-Pun right there. He's broken no matter what you use as his base.

But that does make the class broken, as Pun-Pun would be a 20th level Commoner who can do absolutely anything.
calronmoonflower
01-01-08, 02:48 AM Kinda related, but I always felt that at least one level in expert would actually be very good if you are doing certain characters. Maybe a rogue could benefit from such a thing?

Is there any merit to this theory?

Taking a level in savant or factotum would be better.
Fatalis_902
01-01-08, 03:30 PM But that does make the class broken, as Pun-Pun would be a 20th level Commoner who can do absolutely anything.

That's what I said. Or, tried to say, if I wasn't clear.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Windspear 12-31-07, 03:24 AM	I saw in a bunch of subjects that commoner is really easily broken, and could be really powerful. Excuse my skeptism, but I just can't see that happening. I would really like some proof for that claim. Soooo...... How do you break the commoner?
Escef 12-31-07, 04:16 AM	With a stick.
Windspear 12-31-07, 04:48 AM	With a stick. What? I was actually expecting more of a build, rather than such a pointless answer.....
calronmoonflower 12-31-07, 05:50 AM	What? I was actually expecting more of a build, rather than such a pointless answer..... It was clearly a joke, and rather funny in my opinion. The commoner 20 as the most powerful class is a joke as well.
Sinfire Titan 12-31-07, 05:57 AM	Cross-class ranks in UMD, Candle of Invocation+Pun+Pun trick. Blamo, broke the Commoner.
Fatalis_902 12-31-07, 10:46 AM	Cross-class ranks in UMD, Candle of Invocation+Pun+Pun trick. Blamo, broke the Commoner. That doesn't count.
vegetalss4 12-31-07, 11:11 AM	That doesn't count. why not;)
Fatalis_902 12-31-07, 12:38 PM	why not;) Cuz I can do the same thing with a level 1 Human Ardent, or any other class. That's not a broken commoner, that's Pun-Pun right there. He's broken no matter what you use as his base.
celestialkin 12-31-07, 12:52 PM	Kinda related, but I always felt that at least one level in expert would actually be very good if you are doing certain characters. Maybe a rogue could benefit from such a thing? Is there any merit to this theory?
Sinfire Titan 12-31-07, 06:57 PM	Cuz I can do the same thing with a level 1 Human Ardent, or any other class. That's not a broken commoner, that's Pun-Pun right there. He's broken no matter what you use as his base. But that does make the class broken, as Pun-Pun would be a 20th level Commoner who can do absolutely anything.
calronmoonflower 01-01-08, 02:48 AM	Kinda related, but I always felt that at least one level in expert would actually be very good if you are doing certain characters. Maybe a rogue could benefit from such a thing? Is there any merit to this theory? Taking a level in savant or factotum would be better.
Fatalis_902 01-01-08, 03:30 PM	But that does make the class broken, as Pun-Pun would be a 20th level Commoner who can do absolutely anything. That's what I said. Or, tried to say, if I wasn't clear.