Cook, the cliche profession [Archive] - Wizards Community

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scienceman47

08-31-06, 06:17 AM
It seems like whenever someone picks up profession, its always profession(chef). Its the king crab of the character defining profession investments.
Am I wrong, or is there one that really gets your gravy? Im just sayin, not like everyones making someone with profession(teamster).
Shaggy_Shaggs

08-31-06, 06:33 AM
I've only taken Profession (cook) twice. Once was because the character attacked a bunch of turkeys with burning hands and the results came out well enough that he decided to expand on it. The other was a character closely modelled after a CRPG character that just happened to be an amazing cook.

I've had three of my characters so far pick up Profession (bookkeeper) though (one of these also had Profession (schoolteacher) and Profession (apothecary) as well); as well as one Profession (scribe), one Profession (mechanic), and one Profession (translator).

I think the reason for the prevelance of Profession (cook) might simply be that it's something characters can do without needing a whole lot of downtime. Spending a few years off teaching classes at the Windhaven Academy For Young Adventurers doesn't really help much with moving the game along, and you generally have to either leave the party for it, or hold them back with your ties to the work site. Providing the party with something other than abominable jail food-like portable rations day after day, on the other hand, doesn't really detract from anything, and in a pinch you can still use it to make money.
Cthulhu3125

08-31-06, 08:01 AM
I wish I had a group that thought enough about the game to actually have profession and knowledge skills.

All their ranks are sunk into climb, spot, and listen, and tumble, and balance. If it can't be used in combat, they don't want it.
Razieliffied

08-31-06, 08:13 AM
Every character I play has 'proffesion: cook' because I myself oneday hope to become a master chef. All of my characters also have 'perform: sing', because I sing along to my music. This is partly to mark all of my characters as my own characters and to also give my characters extra depth and personality. I max out these ranks, instead of the 2-4 ranks at first level. You should see my epic characters cook a feast for the entire noble family in less then a minute :p

I once had one character, a changeling rogue/spy master/cabinet trickster. She had 4 ranks in everything I could think of, combat, non-combat, knowledge, craft's, performs, professions, everything. I loved that character but sadly, the group was somewhat min-max at that time and the DM killed me for 'making a weak character to ruin my game'. I've had some odd DM's in my time >_<
Seeker95

08-31-06, 09:14 AM
In 28+ years of playing D&D, my current character is the only one to have ever chosen cook in any group I've ever played or DM'd. I've seen two other players on these boards reference that they took cook.

You must be traveling in more culinary circles than I.
MrPiskie

08-31-06, 09:21 AM
But if nobody gets Profession(teamster), who's going to drive the cart that the party keeps its giant pile of extra swag in?
Caliborn

08-31-06, 09:27 AM
Only one of my characters ever had Profession(Chef), he was a traveler/mercenary/master chef for a one shot campaign. One of my characters has Proffesion(Lawyer) and Perform(Oratary) maxed out, he's a Businessman/Politician/Diplomat and adventuring is more of a side business to him.
HauptSin

08-31-06, 09:36 AM
I have yet to see a cook in a game I've played. Seen a Taxidermist, a Coffinmaker, a Writer, a Computer Tech(Modern Superhero custom ruleset), a Pharmacist/Apothecary... Not a single person who could cook...
Alten_Freehands

08-31-06, 10:11 AM
I played a cleric in a one-shot game that was cook. He was a portly fellow that enjoyed a great meal.

Usually if I take a profession it's guide. It fits the adventurer's lifestyle and it can sometimes help the DM with adventure hooks, when everything else fails. Herbalist is fairly common in the groups I play in.

I've been playing around with the idea of a rogue that disguises his guild as a brothel. All of the usual guild activities would be going on. Only he would use the brothel's activities to launder his money.
Wren

08-31-06, 01:52 PM
I've perhaps only seen the profession (cook) used once in the 11 years I've been playing D&D. I've never selected it myself. I mostly end up with Profession (Herbalist or Apothacary, Sailor, Scribe)

Allot of my characters never delve into an actual profession. They focus more on crafts and the day to day occupation of adventurer.
Grand Theft Otto

08-31-06, 01:58 PM
It makes more sense than lots of others. If I was wandering around the world eating trail rations or whatever day in and day out, I'd learn to spice them up too. I'm probably not going to be spending a lot of time learning how to be an innkeeper or banker since that cant be really learned on the fly as well, and I doubt most D&D games have books on Profession: Teamster for dummies.

Our current game si the first one in a long while that no one has cooking skills, but thats owing to the diverse party. One character is a plant, another can only consume specially prepared nutrient injections, another eats raw meat and carrion, the dire badger animal companion tends to forage for its own food, and the human mage just shrugs and summons his meal.
Reinforcements

08-31-06, 02:09 PM
Probably it has something to do with the fact that cooking is awesome. Of course, this is coming from a guy who's personal hero is Alton Brown, so it might be a little biased. Just a little.
Wren

08-31-06, 03:30 PM
A little addendum on my part...

The biggest reason we never had a cook in the party... is that a wizard with the Prestidigitation spell can make just about anything taste good. Also... with purfiy food and water... the group never need fear that food will be harmful.
boozerker

08-31-06, 03:46 PM
A lot of NPCs get Profession: Fodder
DarkNick

08-31-06, 03:55 PM
I think cooks make good adventurers - look at Steven Segal, Jackie Chan, (both had movies where they were chefs), they know their way around a knife. Nobody likes to eat crappy food.

Maybe it is a reflection of how highly chefs are considered and the fact that a lot of people are next to useless in the kitchen? Who wants to be a cruddy old teamster when they could be a cook? How much happier would those boys from Brokeback have been if they could make something other than beans?
Lorianne

08-31-06, 05:26 PM
I wish I had a group that thought enough about the game to actually have profession and knowledge skills.

All their ranks are sunk into climb, spot, and listen, and tumble, and balance. If it can't be used in combat, they don't want it.
My players have found out that they NEED their social skills in my campaigns...
On of them is still heavily focussing on combat, and he's definately the most social inept PC (and player >_< ) in the party.
Wren

08-31-06, 06:41 PM
I wish I had a group that thought enough about the game to actually have profession and knowledge skills.

All their ranks are sunk into climb, spot, and listen, and tumble, and balance. If it can't be used in combat, they don't want it.
I'm happy to say that I actually have such a group. I make them use the skills as well. I run an Eberron game with the party using Sharn as a base of operations. I'm constantly suprised at how often they want to make a trip to the Morgrave University Library to research this or that because of the bonus they can get on the skill check.
OravennasBrother

09-01-06, 11:43 AM
Gee my characters tend to get Craft Carpentry or Blacksmith or if a profession something like Timberwright (another name for Lumberjack) or Farrier. I thought of having a Wizard with Profession (Litigant) ie a lawyer, but I hate playing Evil.:)
rudie

09-01-06, 04:44 PM
I know of no one I game with that has ever taken profession cook, however a character of mine has profession cook. He is a dwarven chef, no class levels in any class except expert. He has weapon focus (kitchenwear) improvised weapon proficiancy and weapon specialization (kitchenwear). I havent played him yet though :P

I find that "theif" and "blacksmith" are the cliche professions, but I guess its all who you game with.
system09

09-01-06, 04:54 PM
is "thief" a profession in the players handbook?
system09

09-01-06, 04:56 PM
I wish I had a group that thought enough about the game to actually have profession and knowledge skills.

All their ranks are sunk into climb, spot, and listen, and tumble, and balance. If it can't be used in combat, they don't want it.

I have a friend who is a complete power gamer he would never be
creative enough to make a cook character
rudie

09-01-06, 06:05 PM
is "thief" a profession in the players handbook?


Im not sure, but my DM says, "If you can give a rational, explaination as to why your character has a specific item, profession, or anything else, you can use it, however I have the final say in everything."
ornitholestes

09-01-06, 08:24 PM
Actually, this makes a lot of sense to me. As Grand Theft Otto implied, this is the type of side-job an adventurer would highly appreciate. As a geology student I've been on some extended camping trips, I can attest that after a couple days slogging in the wilderness, the simple pleasures like food and drink and very welcome.
Pandaemoni

09-02-06, 12:06 AM
I have taken Profession (dung gatherer) (hey, all that horse manure doesn't roll of those city streets by magic...someone has to sweep it up and cart it away) but never cook. That said, several of my regular group have had it.

It is just a handy "comfort skill" that can be used on the road by adventurers. The only profssion more heavily chosen that I kinow of was "Jeweler" under the 1st edition "secondary skills" rules.
SageBahamut

09-02-06, 12:51 AM
There was one in a party I was in once who had Profession (prostitute). My DM gave her synergy with Perform (Kama Sutra). God that was a demented game.

Usually I pick things that are more useful, especially in cities where there are many professionals. Profession (scribe) has helped my Wiz/Archivist/Theurge lay low when on the run from the law. Profession Shipwright wound up saving us a fortune in another game. Things like that.
theotherdraxen

09-02-06, 01:08 AM
I usually see military-based D&D stuff, so the most common profession roles are actually things like Siege Engineer, Soldier, Officer, ect. I played a character once that took Leadership, and had a middle-aged 4th level follower maxed out with Knowleged skills. D**n, was he useful.
JulesCARV

09-02-06, 01:23 AM
I think that clichéd short-order chef imagery goes well with the clichéd adventurer image: the scarred hands and forearms from hot oil burns and knife wounds, the sharp knives, the blood from meat, the heavy frying pans, etc. Cooks have a kinda adventurer-like image: y'know, tattooed, pierced, muscular, foul-mouthed.
Adam Smite

09-02-06, 01:39 AM
I can't remember anyone I've played with having profession(cook). However, I'll be playing as a roaming Cartographer in an upcoming campaign. I'm going to have lots of fun knowing exactly where we all are...
Silverthumb128

09-02-06, 07:08 AM
Come to think of it, I've nevr taken any Profession skills. I took one or two related non-weapon proficiencies in AD&D, but that was it.
Alchahest

09-02-06, 11:25 AM
most of my characters in the more epic campaigns have at least a couple ranks in perform: singing, even if they've got poor charisma. I just like the idea of heroes singing. it seems right.

also, back in AD&D, my longest played character was a grizzled one-handed master chef. he started his career as a paladin, got on the wrong side of puppy love, violated his vows (and lost his hand as a result of the baron's daughter spurning him) and became a chef/fighter. good times
Splendide

09-02-06, 06:48 PM
I've had a gnome forger with the Clerk profession - handy when going through a dead wizard's books
A warforged warmage with the Porter profession - get maximum use out of bags of holding
A fighter with the Teamster profession - like Ride, but you can't fall off.

Never had a cook though.
frasmage

09-02-06, 08:09 PM
funny, I rarely see proffesion (cook), but am getting tired of profession (soldier)

I would love to see a player roleplay the following:
Profession(...
...paparazzi), 'nough said
...roleplayer), the irony of that would be great
...sous-chef), you were tired of chef?
...suicide sect cultist), this character will last long :rolleyes:
...pimp), 'nough said
...lawyer), even funnier if the campaign sends the players to hell
...ventriloquist/pupeteer), trust me, the DM will be more likely to savagely murder your "brother" than you
...yes-man), 'nough said
:rimshot:
Pandaemoni

09-02-06, 10:03 PM
How would Profession (paparazzi) work?

"Mr Mordenkainen! Mr. Mordenkainen over here! If I could just make a quick charcoal sketching of your likeness, sir! Who designed your robe?"
KirkBb

09-02-06, 10:21 PM
funny, I rarely see proffesion (cook), but am getting tired of profession (soldier)

I would love to see a player roleplay the following:
Profession(...

...pimp), 'nough said

My girlfriend is running a knight with ranks in profession(pimp) in an upcoming campaign. As soon as she gets the oppurtunity, she wants to get leadership, so she can have a bunch of hoes with profession(prostitute). The campaign doesn't really feature sex, though, and we had to make sure it was OK with the DM, he said it was OK as long as it didn't get too silly or too serious... Whats really sad is that she is going to be making so much money in the free weeks she isn't adventuring.
frasmage

09-02-06, 10:42 PM
How would Profession (paparazzi) work?

"Mr Mordenkainen! Mr. Mordenkainen over here! If I could just make a quick charcoal sketching of your likeness, sir! Who designed your robe?"

:rofl:
I so have to do that in a campaign

nice to see people are enjoying my jokes

PS: Or use magic ;)
jolly1

09-02-06, 10:49 PM
I'd rather see profession (cook) a million times than have to see profession (pimp/prostitute) once.

Actually, a paladin with profession (pimp/prostitute) would be interesting.
Hmm...I changed my mind. Bring on the pimps and prostitutes. :P
Stardrake

09-02-06, 11:41 PM
Okay, you've inspired me.

Now I need to do a character with Profession (barber).

But he really hates it...

HE wants to be a Profession (LUMBERJACK)!
IrishRover

09-02-06, 11:52 PM
I have a few characters with cook at low ranks, since deer burned on the outside and raw on the inside is pretty bad (Though not as bad as raw on the outside and burnt on the inside)
The only craft or profession skill I've maxed out at high levels is Craft-jewelry--maxed out, with skill focus and epic skill focus and specially comissioned enchanted tools.
All the others, it's usually just a few levels here and there--a pre-adventuring skill that she's kept her hand in from time to time. Cook, glassmaker, wainwright, scribe, farmer--all sorts.
I have noticed that the cook in the party often gets to avoid the less pleasant parts of camp life, also...
Ashok_Lal

09-14-06, 10:32 PM
My wizard maxed out profession (cook) from 1-3rd level. my thery was i had to be a usefull member of the party.

1-3rd level wizard not much chop
Wren

09-14-06, 10:38 PM
My wizard maxed out profession (cook) from 1-3rd level. my thery was i had to be a usefull member of the party.

1-3rd level wizard not much chop
You really think that?

You'd be suprised what a 3rd level wizard can do with access to the proper spells... and a little foresight.
MonkeyPaladin

09-14-06, 11:03 PM
I think the only profession skill I see much in our campaign is profession: sailor, because there's been a few pirates. Artificers might take engineer or something, I don't know. Can't think of much else. Profession is a vague skill.
Ashok_Lal

09-15-06, 12:06 AM
QUOTE: Wren
You really think that?

You'd be suprised what a 3rd level wizard can do with access to the proper spells... and a little foresight
Well at third level & above i was all powerfull
Andrew

09-15-06, 01:45 AM
One of the few recurring mundane activities that most groups can roleplay is eating, and cooking is one of those things that keeps roleplay alive even amongst the most crunchy group. In my most recent playing group, the Warcraft campaign setting defines cooking as a subset of Survival, and it's frequently used as we cook and eat most of what dies around us (including the party members that are victims of our fierce DM).