Cost of Alternate Mounts [Archive] - Wizards Community

Cost of Alternate Mounts [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Sulaco
11-13-06, 04:21 PM Having recently acquired a Thundertusk Cavalry (http://www.trollandtoad.com/images/products/pictures/149554.jpg) miniature and want to make a PC to go with it.

Anyone have any source or suggestion for the cost of a trained Dire Boar mount?

And on the topic, what other creatures have people used as mounts and how would you cost them?
CharlieRock
11-13-06, 04:26 PM We used an elephant once to reload our catapult ... :cool:

... I think this is the system we used. 400gp for Hvy Warhorse (2CR). This was 200gp per CR for common mount. x2 for uncommon, x4 for rare, x8 for very rare , x16 for unique (we never tried buying anything more than rare, though).

Remember your old school frequencys?

Good Luck! :D
CharlieRock
11-13-06, 04:37 PM *ungh*
Think I got a hernia lifting all those books off this <holds out the 1ed MM> ,it was even underneath my GURPS Basic Set. :D

Dog-blasted! No, Dire Boars ... well, giant boars were uncommon... so, maybe a Dire Boar would be rare? Then ,that'll cost him ...1600gp? Sound about right? :whatsthis
Lorianne
11-13-06, 05:18 PM Let's see if I can figure this out by calculating the costs...

First, you need an animal. In your case, a dire boar. Which you need to rear and train from birth. Assuming that you want to buy the animal, you'll need to pay the wages for whoever trained the beast for you.

Let's just assume that this has been done by a 3nd level human expert (IMO, you need someone with experience for training a dire animal). He/she could have a Handle Animal skill modifier of about +14 (8 points, 3 skill focus, 2 animal affinity, 1 cha).

For rearing a direboar (7HD), you need to succeed at a DC 22 Handle Animal check. Which the expert will be able to get on an average roll.
Training the boar for 'combat riding' would need a DC 20 Handle Animal check, also fairly easy to make.

The price in this is probably going to go into the time it takes to raise it.
An animal tender/groom, according to the DMG, costs about 15cp a day. I don't exactly know how long a boar takes to grow to full adulthood and get it's training, but let's assume 2 years.

.15*(2*365) = 109.5gp (wages trainer)
.5*(2*365) = 365gp (stabling for 2 years)
...gp (cost of piglett)

The only thing I can't find anywhere are the costs to get a piglett... You'll have to figure that out yourself :S
Sulaco
11-13-06, 05:38 PM Let's see if I can figure this out by calculating the costs...

First, you need an animal. In your case, a dire boar. Which you need to rear and train from birth. Assuming that you want to buy the animal, you'll need to pay the wages for whoever trained the beast for you.

Let's just assume that this has been done by a 3nd level human expert (IMO, you need someone with experience for training a dire animal). He/she could have a Handle Animal skill modifier of about +14 (8 points, 3 skill focus, 2 animal affinity, 1 cha).

For rearing a direboar (7HD), you need to succeed at a DC 22 Handle Animal check. Which the expert will be able to get on an average roll.
Training the boar for 'combat riding' would need a DC 20 Handle Animal check, also fairly easy to make.

The price in this is probably going to go into the time it takes to raise it.
An animal tender/groom, according to the DMG, costs about 15cp a day. I don't exactly know how long a boar takes to grow to full adulthood and get it's training, but let's assume 2 years.

.15*(2*365) = 109.5gp (wages trainer)
.5*(2*365) = 365gp (stabling for 2 years)
...gp (cost of piglett)

The only thing I can't find anywhere are the costs to get a piglett... You'll have to figure that out yourself :S

Nice! Thanks. :)

What if we assume two variables: first, let's assume the piglet will cost 75 gp (same as a light horse) and that the trainer will likely be rearing a whole litter (lets say 10) at a time. Any suggestion based on that?
CharlieRock
11-13-06, 05:39 PM Pigs are 3gp here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/wealthAndMoney.htm)
Lorianne
11-13-06, 05:47 PM @CharlieRock
Ah, thanks! I should have thought about that...

Then it would all add up to: 477.5gp.
Or 1213.5pg for three piglets.

@Sulaco
The PHB specifically states that you can only rear three animals at the same time though... Training takes up at least 3 hours a day too.
So 3 would be the maximum.
CharlieRock
11-13-06, 05:48 PM Yeah, gotta let the other Dire Boarlets go wild (hog wild?) and fill up those wandering monster tables :D

Edit: What animal trainer in his right (money making) mind would throw in two extra dire boars for 6gp when he can make at least 477.5gp-1,600gp (market depending,LoL) ?:whatsthis
Gahread
11-14-06, 01:30 AM Glancing at the Arms & Equipment Guide... holy cow, Lorianne! AE&G prices a trained Dire Boar mount, sans equipment, at 475 GPs!

They have a bunch of other exotic mounts in there too. If you can ride it, it can be a mount.
CharlieRock
11-14-06, 02:47 AM I always wanted the AE&G :(
(my gamestore sold out)
Dunamin
11-14-06, 03:24 AM As, mentioned, there's a great deal of exotic mounts listed in the Arms & Equipment Guide. However, I would be cautious with the listed prices, though - seems to me like elephants and rhinos trained for battle should be more expensive than indicated there.
CharlieRock
11-14-06, 03:31 AM <Remembers a mishap involving an elephant, a catapult, an injured animal handler, and a critical miss>

...well, that one wasn't 'well' trained :nonono:
Sulaco
11-14-06, 10:22 AM Glancing at the Arms & Equipment Guide... holy cow, Lorianne! AE&G prices a trained Dire Boar mount, sans equipment, at 475 GPs!

They have a bunch of other exotic mounts in there too. If you can ride it, it can be a mount.

I didn't even check the A&E Guide! D'oh! :doh:

Thanks. :)
Lorianne
11-15-06, 04:14 PM Glancing at the Arms & Equipment Guide... holy cow, Lorianne! AE&G prices a trained Dire Boar mount, sans equipment, at 475 GPs!

Wow! I really got close :blush:
CharlieRock
11-15-06, 10:04 PM Wow! I really got close :blush:
I was way off. -Jim Carrey (Dumb and Dumber) :rofl:
WhiteRaven810
11-15-06, 10:12 PM I always wanted the AE&G :(
(my gamestore sold out)

Ha! Want my copy? I lothe the book.
CharlieRock
11-15-06, 10:14 PM Ha! Want my copy? I lothe the book.
Darn tooting. I need a copy here! :cool:

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Sulaco 11-13-06, 04:21 PM	Having recently acquired a Thundertusk Cavalry (http://www.trollandtoad.com/images/products/pictures/149554.jpg) miniature and want to make a PC to go with it. Anyone have any source or suggestion for the cost of a trained Dire Boar mount? And on the topic, what other creatures have people used as mounts and how would you cost them?
CharlieRock 11-13-06, 04:26 PM	We used an elephant once to reload our catapult ... :cool: ... I think this is the system we used. 400gp for Hvy Warhorse (2CR). This was 200gp per CR for common mount. x2 for uncommon, x4 for rare, x8 for very rare , x16 for unique (we never tried buying anything more than rare, though). Remember your old school frequencys? Good Luck! :D
CharlieRock 11-13-06, 04:37 PM	ungh Think I got a hernia lifting all those books off this <holds out the 1ed MM> ,it was even underneath my GURPS Basic Set. :D Dog-blasted! No, Dire Boars ... well, giant boars were uncommon... so, maybe a Dire Boar would be rare? Then ,that'll cost him ...1600gp? Sound about right? :whatsthis
Lorianne 11-13-06, 05:18 PM	Let's see if I can figure this out by calculating the costs... First, you need an animal. In your case, a dire boar. Which you need to rear and train from birth. Assuming that you want to buy the animal, you'll need to pay the wages for whoever trained the beast for you. Let's just assume that this has been done by a 3nd level human expert (IMO, you need someone with experience for training a dire animal). He/she could have a Handle Animal skill modifier of about +14 (8 points, 3 skill focus, 2 animal affinity, 1 cha). For rearing a direboar (7HD), you need to succeed at a DC 22 Handle Animal check. Which the expert will be able to get on an average roll. Training the boar for 'combat riding' would need a DC 20 Handle Animal check, also fairly easy to make. The price in this is probably going to go into the time it takes to raise it. An animal tender/groom, according to the DMG, costs about 15cp a day. I don't exactly know how long a boar takes to grow to full adulthood and get it's training, but let's assume 2 years. .15(2365) = 109.5gp (wages trainer) .5(2365) = 365gp (stabling for 2 years) ...gp (cost of piglett) The only thing I can't find anywhere are the costs to get a piglett... You'll have to figure that out yourself :S
Sulaco 11-13-06, 05:38 PM	Let's see if I can figure this out by calculating the costs... First, you need an animal. In your case, a dire boar. Which you need to rear and train from birth. Assuming that you want to buy the animal, you'll need to pay the wages for whoever trained the beast for you. Let's just assume that this has been done by a 3nd level human expert (IMO, you need someone with experience for training a dire animal). He/she could have a Handle Animal skill modifier of about +14 (8 points, 3 skill focus, 2 animal affinity, 1 cha). For rearing a direboar (7HD), you need to succeed at a DC 22 Handle Animal check. Which the expert will be able to get on an average roll. Training the boar for 'combat riding' would need a DC 20 Handle Animal check, also fairly easy to make. The price in this is probably going to go into the time it takes to raise it. An animal tender/groom, according to the DMG, costs about 15cp a day. I don't exactly know how long a boar takes to grow to full adulthood and get it's training, but let's assume 2 years. .15(2365) = 109.5gp (wages trainer) .5(2365) = 365gp (stabling for 2 years) ...gp (cost of piglett) The only thing I can't find anywhere are the costs to get a piglett... You'll have to figure that out yourself :S Nice! Thanks. :) What if we assume two variables: first, let's assume the piglet will cost 75 gp (same as a light horse) and that the trainer will likely be rearing a whole litter (lets say 10) at a time. Any suggestion based on that?
CharlieRock 11-13-06, 05:39 PM	Pigs are 3gp here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/wealthAndMoney.htm)
Lorianne 11-13-06, 05:47 PM	@CharlieRock Ah, thanks! I should have thought about that... Then it would all add up to: 477.5gp. Or 1213.5pg for three piglets. @Sulaco The PHB specifically states that you can only rear three animals at the same time though... Training takes up at least 3 hours a day too. So 3 would be the maximum.
CharlieRock 11-13-06, 05:48 PM	Yeah, gotta let the other Dire Boarlets go wild (hog wild?) and fill up those wandering monster tables :D Edit: What animal trainer in his right (money making) mind would throw in two extra dire boars for 6gp when he can make at least 477.5gp-1,600gp (market depending,LoL) ?:whatsthis
Gahread 11-14-06, 01:30 AM	Glancing at the Arms & Equipment Guide... holy cow, Lorianne! AE&G prices a trained Dire Boar mount, sans equipment, at 475 GPs! They have a bunch of other exotic mounts in there too. If you can ride it, it can be a mount.
CharlieRock 11-14-06, 02:47 AM	I always wanted the AE&G :( (my gamestore sold out)
Dunamin 11-14-06, 03:24 AM	As, mentioned, there's a great deal of exotic mounts listed in the Arms & Equipment Guide. However, I would be cautious with the listed prices, though - seems to me like elephants and rhinos trained for battle should be more expensive than indicated there.
CharlieRock 11-14-06, 03:31 AM	<Remembers a mishap involving an elephant, a catapult, an injured animal handler, and a critical miss> ...well, that one wasn't 'well' trained :nonono:
Sulaco 11-14-06, 10:22 AM	Glancing at the Arms & Equipment Guide... holy cow, Lorianne! AE&G prices a trained Dire Boar mount, sans equipment, at 475 GPs! They have a bunch of other exotic mounts in there too. If you can ride it, it can be a mount. I didn't even check the A&E Guide! D'oh! :doh: Thanks. :)
Lorianne 11-15-06, 04:14 PM	Glancing at the Arms & Equipment Guide... holy cow, Lorianne! AE&G prices a trained Dire Boar mount, sans equipment, at 475 GPs! Wow! I really got close :blush:
CharlieRock 11-15-06, 10:04 PM	Wow! I really got close :blush: I was way off. -Jim Carrey (Dumb and Dumber) :rofl:
WhiteRaven810 11-15-06, 10:12 PM	I always wanted the AE&G :( (my gamestore sold out) Ha! Want my copy? I lothe the book.
CharlieRock 11-15-06, 10:14 PM	Ha! Want my copy? I lothe the book. Darn tooting. I need a copy here! :cool: