critisise complain or rant [Archive] - Wizards Community

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allmightyme

06-01-05, 01:54 AM
this is the page i just thought of where you can rant about things complain about things or just critisise like a grumpy old man

about anything
75RD Drum Clip

06-01-05, 01:59 AM
I for one am sick of the whining about so-called powergaming and munchkins. They are subjective and arbitrary terms that cannot be supported by evidence since the criteria differs from group to group.
PrinceAzar

06-01-05, 02:02 AM
I'm sick of people stating wishing to have stats of 10 minimum is a sign of munchkinism
allmightyme

06-01-05, 02:10 AM
yahhhhhhhhhh :shocked:


what??????? :looloo:

o well at least people are using my thread :OMG!
75RD Drum Clip

06-01-05, 02:19 AM
Prince, get used to the insults. I swear some people here think that the only characters worth playing have stats no higher than 10.
The nameles one

06-01-05, 02:22 AM
There are some who would consider this thread to be... Unnatural and spammy.
PrinceAzar

06-01-05, 02:23 AM
:clap: Thanks for supporting me in that view, at least I know i'm not an abhorent powergamer for wanting minimum of 10 in stats.
HappyDragon

06-01-05, 03:14 AM
I would have to agree on the minimum of 10 stats......I've played characters with stats below 10 and had fun with them, but the whole point of being a PC is that you are slightly above average the normal, run-of-the-mill NPC's.

A modifier of -1 is fine in one or two stats I suppose, but going below 8 in a human based campaign can really start to subvert the whole point of being someone worth a bit more than the next. It usually helps if there are some better modifiers to go along with it.

So, no........you are not an "äbhorent powergamer" for prefering minimum stats of 10's in my books at least. :)

:tiphat:
Tenzhi

06-01-05, 03:35 AM
Prince, get used to the insults. I swear some people here think that the only characters worth playing have stats no higher than 10.

And some think the only characters worth playing have no stats lower than 10 - and they can be just as insulting.

But this is true of many subjects. Some people like high magic, others like low. Some people like combat and tactics, others like roleplaying and high drama. Some people like to ardently obey the rules of science in a fantasy game, and others see the futility in such an outlook. High level, low level; humans, monsters; Core RAW only, house rules and supplements allowed - some people are acidic, others are basic, and whenever the two meet there's bound to be a violent reaction.

But whining about complaining, and complaining about whining? The inherent hypocritical irony is enough to make one's paradox implode. ;)
PrinceAzar

06-01-05, 03:37 AM
I smell something burning...

yea, this should stop before it escalates into a flame war.
The Man from Uncle

06-01-05, 03:37 AM
Now that you're all contained on the same page I wonder if there is anyway to keep you here.:plotting:

Kidding, kidding of course. Its nice to have some flavour on these message boards. You guys get stuck in and mix things up a bit.
PrinceAzar

06-01-05, 03:43 AM
oh yeah, OP, fix the title of the thread to

Criticize, complain or rant.

:P
75RD Drum Clip

06-01-05, 03:47 AM
Now that you're all contained on the same page I wonder if there is anyway to keep you here.:plotting:

<Jabba Laughter fills the chamber>
PrinceAzar

06-01-05, 03:50 AM
http://www.hamletcroft.co.uk/jabba.jpg
Tenzhi

06-01-05, 03:56 AM
I smell something burning...

yea, this should stop before it escalates into a flame war.

I think your sniffer's broken (or perhaps prescient), but I agree that the nature of this thread will inevitably lead to flames - and largely for reasons I pointed out. People on one side of a complaint will be countered by people from the other side; someone on one side or the other will say something that is (or is taken as) snide/insulting; this will prompt someone on the opposing side to retaliate in like kind rather than remaining reasonable (some would justify this as having just cause, but the CoC and WizO's would likely disagree on that point) and the flames will fan out from there.
PrinceAzar

06-01-05, 04:12 AM
Then i shall fix it

I spot a box of matches sitting 10 feet away :P
HappyDragon

06-01-05, 04:24 AM
I like cookies :)





Oh wait, this is the ranting/complaints thread....
..............
.......
......Um, er......I don't like.....um.......OLIVES!

can't stand ém. :noway:
PrinceAzar

06-01-05, 04:27 AM
http://www.ilida.gr/images/amfisis_black-olives.gif

Olives, or Olive Bread and Feta Cheese, now THAT is a meal :drool:
Tenzhi

06-01-05, 04:30 AM
Those olives look like June bugs.

But I have to admit I like sliced black olives on various foods. And olive oil is awesome.

Pimento-stuffed green olives are rather gross, however.
HappyDragon

06-01-05, 04:32 AM
:gah:

Dude! I am sooooo going to be having nightmares going to bed now. :P
PrinceAzar

06-01-05, 04:35 AM
Ha ha, i used to fear anything onion. Back in elementary school, i'd lift the bread of my rib-e-que sandwich and fling the wedges of onion at my tray before eating it.

Now i love onions on my burgers, sandwiches, salads and ice cream.
Peeht

06-01-05, 07:02 AM
When it comes to stats, i think it's up to the person and group, since the whole reason you play is to have fun it doesn't really matter if you make sure you have decent stats if you don't like playing with poor ones. There is a challenge in having poor stats, but it can get boring and irritating failing all the time, and having great stats can ruin the game because you either find everything really easy, or your group can't deal with the challenges the DM has to set up so that they challenge this one superhero. And since most groups are friends it shouldn't really be an issue.
Hairfoot

06-01-05, 07:22 AM
I hereby complain about the misuse and abuse of the humble apostrophe, both on the boards and in the wider world.

"I wield both my kukri's"
"Fighter's are overpowered"
"Orange's, banana's, and potato's"

That is all.
weasel fierce

06-01-05, 01:59 PM
damn, botched the edit. See below for actual post
weasel fierce

06-01-05, 02:01 PM
I prefer to rant about petty things that have no realistic consequence (unless its politics or religion, which is rather off-topic for this board)


Hence..

"PC" means Player Character. Not your players. Your players are NOT paladins, much as they may think so, and they do not cast spells, unless they are wiccans (and then their spells only work when noone is around)


"1st edition" is not a descriptor or a name in itself, since you are not identifying which 1st edition you are referring to. Original D&D (the 3 book box set with hobbits and fighting men ?), AD&D 1st edition ? 1st edition of the revised D&D game (the Basic / Expert / Companion / Master set) ?


Just because its from japan, or in an anime, doesnt mean that its
A: Better
B: Should be in a D&D game.


If you dont want your PC's to die at all, dont create adventures that involve a lot of danger


Beholder paladin elf-kin does not make a better player character


If you are quoting an older edition D&D or AD&D rule, quote a rule that actually exists, rather than making up things to reinforce your point.


"game balance" is an absurd and futile concept for a roleplaying game.


Its just a game


I like pie
Tenzhi

06-02-05, 12:42 AM
"Orange's, banana's, and potato's"

That's not an abuse, though it is an incomplete sentence.

"Orange's, banana's, and potato's skins each have different qualities."
PrinceAzar

06-02-05, 12:57 AM
I like pie

Mmm...Key Lime pie threatens to make me explode with flavor :devil:
fatal error

06-02-05, 01:55 AM
ok, I'll rant about something... Ummm, hmmmm, ah I know.

I wish WotC would make their supplements with some fluff in them, but I don't want setting specific stuff. Give me fluff, but without all that campaign/setting stuff. I mean really, how hard is it to write up some nice specialized interesting and in depth politicaly and historically accurate kingdoms etc. without making them at all setting specific? Eh, eh, eh!

Ok, that sounded way too obviously sarcastic... I know...

I wish people would stop butchering the english langauge i mena realy liek why must peeps use all this u r ne 1 no sentence structure no grammer at all multiple ! in a row invariably followed by 1s because they take off shift before 1 and no paragraphs evar tons of acronyms btw omw ttyl gtg brb imo imho rofl lol heh (btw could sum1 tell me what heh stands 4) using abreviations like they were bite sized yaks dmg pc dm gm mm phb carc cadv cw cd oa s&f dotf motw t&b i mena seriosly could they actually mabye take the time to freaking type sumthing out come on!!!!!1

:D :P
Tenzhi

06-02-05, 02:03 AM
On the off chance that that was an actual question couched in all the silliness:

"Heh" doesn't stand for anything. It is a short laugh - kinda like "Ha" with a different vowel sound going.
allmightyme

06-02-05, 02:14 AM
by the way you can say somethinggood



it still wont happen i know it but still :pint:
:heehee
scout989

06-02-05, 02:31 AM
O.K. here's an odd one for you all...
I'm really annoyed that every time I read one of those protracted stupid rules debates where all the posters basically say "You're wrong, unless you can prove me wrong" ad nauseam, I can never prove anyone to be wrong!
It makes me feel kinda stupid sometimes.
The Man from Uncle

06-02-05, 04:29 AM
I tell you what I hate. I hate the idea that everyone has an equal opinion. This is such a misused concept. Everyone has an equal right to an opinion, but a very good many people I encounter really have no substance to what they believe at all. Their opinions are either utterly logically flawed beyond all level of reasoning, outrageously biased, irrelevant to the topic or just meaningless collections of phrases that they probably overheard and thought sounded good.

I really don't like having to say to people 'I am sorry that you can't understand this type of thing, but this thread is going to continue on regardless of your shortcomings' or simply stating, after they have posted some dismally written attempt to keep up, that what they have said has no relevance or simply doesn't make any sense. Writing a sentence is not the same thing as making a point, but many people can't grasp that. And then to top it off they come back and say that what I have said is merely an opinion with no greater validity than theirs. When in actuality they have not even separated my opinion from the given facts. Sigh. I just hate people who try and get involved in discussions that are out of their intellectual depth. They slow everyone else down. We should have a 'colouring in' message board for people like that.

I know, I know, I am an intellectual snob, but I should be allowed to discuss things at my level too sometimes.

Oh man, do I ever feel better.
amethal

06-02-05, 04:31 AM
I hate the stupid code of conduct, which lets me say (to quote a poster on another thread)

"Bugger off you bloody wanker"

whilst not allowing me to use the word ****** which means drunk where I come from and (I think) angry when Americans use it.
Tenzhi

06-02-05, 04:33 AM
Their opinions are either utterly logically flawed beyond all level of reasoning, outrageously biased, irrelevant to the topic or just meaningless collections of phrases that they probably overheard and thought sounded good.

Of course, that's your opinion and it is equal to anyone else's. ;)
scout989

06-02-05, 05:20 AM
I tell you what I hate. I hate the idea that everyone has an equal opinion. This is such a misused concept. Everyone has an equal right to an opinion, but a very good many people I encounter really have no substance to what they believe at all. Their opinions are either utterly logically flawed beyond all level of reasoning, outrageously biased, irrelevant to the topic or just meaningless collections of phrases that they probably overheard and thought sounded good.

I really don't like having to say to people 'I am sorry that you can't understand this type of thing, but this thread is going to continue on regardless of your shortcomings' or simply stating, after they have posted some dismally written attempt to keep up, that what they have said has no relevance or simply doesn't make any sense. Writing a sentence is not the same thing as making a point, but many people can't grasp that. And then to top it off they come back and say that what I have said is merely an opinion with no greater validity than theirs. When in actuality they have not even separated my opinion from the given facts. Sigh. I just hate people who try and get involved in discussions that are out of their intellectual depth. They slow everyone else down. We should have a 'colouring in' message board for people like that.

I know, I know, I am an intellectual snob, but I should be allowed to discuss things at my level too sometimes.

Oh man, do I ever feel better.
Hey, as one of those who are outclassed by your intellectual superiority, I resent that!
The Man from Uncle

06-02-05, 08:58 AM
Scout989 - 'Hey, as one of those who are outclassed by your intellectual superiority, I resent that!'

Sorry dude. But admitting it means your half-way there, and making sarky comments helps get you most of the rest of the way.


Tenzhi - 'Of course, that's your opinion and it is equal to anyone else's.'

Thanks. And I am sure I will never be allowed to forget it. :(


amethal - '"Bugger off you bloody wanker"'

I can't believe that doesn't get censored. And don't forget that that our furry friend the *****, who is so oft the only companion of an aging spinster, gets the all star treatment too.
HappyDragon

06-02-05, 01:14 PM
Sigh. I just hate people who try and get involved in discussions that are out of their intellectual depth. They slow everyone else down. We should have a 'colouring in' message board for people like that.

That is the singular best Idea I've seen on these biards ever!
I so want a colouring message board now, that would kick :censored:

Colour in the smiley page, or play with people avatars like drawing silly moustaches on posters that happen to be annoying you at the time, or posting ideas in a visual format....."ä picture is worth a thousand words", or some intellectual nonesense like that :D

It would be an amazing way for people on the boards to get a little stress relief without having to jump down the throats of other posters.

Sign below to petition for the Colouring In Message Board now :dancin:
HappyDragon, (yay! I'm the first one :) )




Really......I'm serious
Arrowhen

06-02-05, 01:31 PM
I can't believe that doesn't get censored. And don't forget that that our furry friend the *****, who is so oft the only companion of an aging spinster, gets the all star treatment too.
Yeah, the filter is stupid. I'd shoot it with my crossbow, only I'm not allowed to **** it.
The Man from Uncle

06-02-05, 01:49 PM
Arrowhen - 'Yeah, the filter is stupid. I'd shoot it with my crossbow, only I'm not allowed to **** it.'

hmmm.... fire, pull, grip, ****, hold,....
The Man from Uncle

06-02-05, 01:50 PM
oh it's ****.