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| CJDragon12-13-05, 04:36 PM | I take French as an A/S level at school (I'm 16 to anyonw who doesn't know how the English education system works, it is wierd....) Anyway, one of the topics I'm learning about is free time activities. So, i got to wondering, are their any WotC D&D books in French, or do all you native French speakers have to be really fluent in English? Also what kind of really good D&D french words can anyone tell me? Just simple things like the names of the core classes, races, weapons, anything thats different. I've often wondered how it would be to play D&D in french. Anyways thanks to anyone who replies. :) |
| rbrt_Spade12-13-05, 04:57 PM | Thier has to be becuase the rpga runs in france. |
| darkness ninja of light12-13-05, 05:06 PM | I took French too. I can't remember where I ended up finding it, but I got a French 3.0 character sheet off the internet somewhere. It's so much fun to wait until someone asks for a character sheet at your group and hand them one. The sheet looks just like a normal character sheet (and 3.0 is very similar to 3.5) so it takes about 10 seconds for them to notice the skills section or some other word heavy section. The look on their face is priceless. What? WHAT IS THIS!? Some of the stuffs: Character Sheet = Feuille de Personnage HP = PV (Points de Vie) AC = CA (Classe d'armure) STR = FOR (Force) DEX = DEX (Dexterite...with accent at end) CON = same INT = same WIS = SAG (Sagesse) CHA = CHA (Charisme) Reflex = Reflexe (with accent on first e, not second) Fortitude = Vigueur Will = Volonte (accent on last e) Attack (weapons section, that is) = Arme Armor = Armure Skills: Competences (first e) toooons of skills I haven't totally matched up yet Spells = Sorts |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-13-05, 05:12 PM | Mais biensur mon ami, que voulez vous savoir ? But of course my friend what do you want to know ? I recently opened-up for my fellow-quebecers on d&d in french, what a coincidence ! Come if you want. And yes there are many books of wizards in french. All 3.0 ones. Almost all 3.5 ones comes sometime near six months after the original english releases, but for fanatics like me who can't wait there is always the english ones. And I think these days most teens and D&D fans read english quite easily due to the american influence and due to the fact that Quebec is like an isle in an ocean surronded by waves of anglophones communities (such as the USA and the rest of Canada who speaks english). And for the names here are some that I like to use... Albert Finelame (Albert Fineblade) Vlad Eauclair(Vlad Clearwater) Alwyn Aldarion(same) Jacques Levile(Jack Thevile) Kahn 'Tempête' Noir (Kahn 'Blackstorm') Nérule Âmenoir (Nerull Blacksoul) Michel Astredargent (Michel Silverstar I gues) Ramsus Amyr(Same, took that one from Xenogears) Albert Saintlâme(Albert Holyblade) Christophe Lejuste (Christopher(or simply Chris) Thejust) Xénos Zar'Naramis (a human wizard working for a drow house Xenos Zar'Naramis) |
| Seeker9512-13-05, 05:20 PM | Strahd, I believe his first question is: Are WotC materials published in French? |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-13-05, 05:25 PM | And I believe I already answered that in my previous post, whom i've just edited a minute ago. |
| laurent112-13-05, 05:25 PM | I live in Montreal in Canada and I can tell you that Dnd materials does exist in french. They are all well made, the translation is almost whitout any mistakes at all. They are much more expensive (around 20 to 30$ more). For me I prefer to buy the english version because 1: the are released first (3 to 6 months before the french version) and second, I find it very difficult to use books in both langages because of the metric system; I'm more used to figure things whit the traditional english system. I play with my 2 cousins and they buy books in french and its always difficult when the caster tell me "my fireball as a range of 60 meters). Now for some words translation weapons = armes bow = arc longbow = arc long shortbow = arc court sword = épée battle axe = hache de guerre or hache de bataille flail = fléau morningstar = étoile du matin Races human = humain (duh) elf = elfe gnome = gnome orc = orque dwarf = nain halfling = halfelin. This is by far the worst name for a race as it mean absolutly nothing. In the previous edition, they were called "petite-gens" which mean "little folks" but halfelin?? Classes rogue = roublard bard = barde fighter = guerrier ou combatant monk = moine ranger = rôdeur mage = mage or magicien sorcerer = enssorceleur barbarian = barbare paladin = paladin cleric = clerc or priest I hope it help! Good luck with your french class. |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-13-05, 05:29 PM | the are released first (3 to 6 months before the french version) Oui, c'est que je disais, sa peux vraiment être très long. Je ne sais pas si tu es aussi fanatique que moi, mais putain que sa prends du temps ! Transaltion : Yes this is what I was saying, I don't know if you like d&d as much as me, but damn it ! French releases just take too much time for my taste ! |
| laurent112-13-05, 05:44 PM | Mais en que c'est long! Souvent c'est pour ça que j'achète en anglais . Je trouve ça trop long! Translation: Yes it's deffinetly to long, that's why I always buy the english version! |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-13-05, 05:49 PM | Damn oui ! I agree with you all the way buddy. Btw *points to his sig* (http://detdquebec.actifforum.com/) |
| q'afuu12-13-05, 05:57 PM | Thier has to be becuase the rpga runs in france. The RPGA 'runs' in Belgium and the Netherlands as well, as far as I know, but there are no Dutch versions of D&D books. |
| Lazzmaniandevil12-13-05, 06:10 PM | I agree with my fellow Montrealers. The books do exist, but I don't used them. I also play in english just because I don't want to wait 6 months and pay an extra 60-80% everytime there is new book that I want. Furthermore, It is translated in France and their french is a bit different from ours. Because of that, some translations sound strange to me, even if they are correct (Open lock = crochetage ? Sleight of hand = escamotage ?). As for translations: You should find every word you'll need in there: http://www.asmodee.com/dl/telechargements/glossairedd.zip |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-13-05, 06:16 PM | Hey ce serais pas toi qui avais le forum de Patoutmonde au paravant par hasard ? Translation : Hey wasn't it you who had the Patoutmonde forum before ? I remember a Patrick who had a similar forum. |
| Seeker9512-13-05, 06:51 PM | And I believe I already answered that in my previous post, whom i've just edited a minute ago.You answered it after I repeated the question. And answered quite thoroughly, I might add. :tiphat: |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-13-05, 07:01 PM | Heh, well thats me I just love french as much as anybody love their homelanguage. |
| Mortepierre12-13-05, 07:02 PM | http://www.asmodee.com/jeux-de-roles/dungeons---dragons/ All the books currently translated are listed on the left. |
| Lazzmaniandevil12-13-05, 08:53 PM | Hey ce serais pas toi qui avais le forum de Patoutmonde au paravant par hasard ? Translation : Hey wasn't it you who had the Patoutmonde forum before ? I remember a Patrick who had a similar forum. Non, ce n'était pas moi... No it wasn't me ... |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-13-05, 09:16 PM | Never-mind then, sorry. |
| Patrakis12-13-05, 11:26 PM | Hi there, I was kindda surprised when i saw my site mentioned in here. Felt all warm inside :) http://patoumonde.com would be my site. Still active and still all in french. I can't find the time to translate all the info. Anyway, Strah, the forum changed recently so maybe that is why you cant find it anymore. The site is still the same though and it still hosting my game in Valedale, the secret dale :) Pat |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-14-05, 01:37 AM | Hey 'sup dude ? Gotta see that ! See you soon ! |
| Patrakis12-14-05, 10:12 AM | Everything is good here. Haven't had time to update the site as much as i would like to. New baby and all :) For now, only my campaign related information finds it s way to the site. Strahd, are you the fellow that registered to the forum earlier this year from Montreal? Cant remember the the sig but i remember vividly your fervor about a independant quebec :) if that was you. Anyway, Good to see ya. Pat |
| CJDragon12-14-05, 02:12 PM | Wow, way more replies than i thought I'd get, I expected like one or two posts telling me that they had the books and thats it. Thanks for all the web links too (some are a bit too advanced for me though.... :weep: ) Heh, well thats me I just love french as much as anybody love their homelanguage. Thats not true, I really don't like english sometimes, it just makes no sense. Thats why I really want to speak fluent French, which some day I hopefully will... Still English is a rich language, and its stolen from so many other languages over the years that it has a word for pretty much anything... Anyways, cheers for all the replies, you guys and girls rock! :D |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-14-05, 04:22 PM | Strahd, are you the fellow that registered to the forum earlier this year from Montreal? Yes it is I (Alwyn Aldarion was my nick on your board earlier if I do remember correctly). |
| Chimerical12-14-05, 05:16 PM | RPGs, including D&D, are very popular in France. I spent 4 months in Aix-en-Provence, and there were a few gaming stores in town — in a city the same size as many in the US that don't have any gaming stores. I brought home a couple packets of Magic: the Gathering cards in French. Thats not true, I really don't like english sometimes, it just makes no sense. Thats why I really want to speak fluent French, which some day I hopefully will... Still English is a rich language, and its stolen from so many other languages over the years that it has a word for pretty much anything.. Most modern languages were "stolen" from other languages, and actually modern French borrows quite a bit from English (le weekend, le shampooing). In fact, I seem to recall France attempting to legislate the language several years back, in an effort to counteract this. |
| Seeker9512-14-05, 06:04 PM | English is a rich language, and its stolen from so many other languages over the years that it has a word for pretty much anything...Related, and for your perusing pleasure: English and Number of Words (http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutenglish/mostwords) |
| dan123412-14-05, 09:07 PM | And I think these days most teens and D&D fans read english quite easily due to the american influence and due to the fact that Quebec is like an isle in an ocean surronded by waves of anglophones communities (such as the USA and the rest of Canada who speaks english). I actually find that offensive. . . It really pisses me off when people from Québec think they are the only French speaking people in Canada. There is a lot of French speaking outside of Québec. I am French and form Canada, but I am not from Québec??? WOW, that’s weird. But seriously, a place like NB for example, were I'm from has a strong French community. Just like northern Ontario, or Manitoba. I guess the main difference in NB we are bilingual. That means we can speak 2 languages, and most of us are fluent in both languages. Including French. . . I mean there are people in NB that can't speak French, but there are people in Québec who cannot speak French too. And back to the topic. We just buy the English books, since we are fluent in both languages. And when we play, we speak French, and English, it doesn’t really matter. |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-15-05, 09:26 AM | My opinion was not meant to offend you at all. I was simply stating the fact that Canada is rather massively anglophone, and that Quebec is really the only true bilingual province. New-Brunswick bilingual ? Yeah right my ass ! The french population is somethin' like not even 40% there contrary to Quebec where its like 83%. And Quebecers are far more bilingual then new-brunswicker who can't simply understand put two words together without relying to english. Thats why I HATE Canada too, a bunch of lying morrons like the Federal Goverment saying that Canada is a bilingual country is just pure-********. Quebec is the bilingual place, outside this and mayhaps some small towns in Ontario and in Manitoba(and some very small pecentage of NB) you can't be served in french. Yes, yes I'm a dirty separatist, so what are you gonna do ? Send me the army like Chrétien wanted to in '95 as he can't stand being the loosy loser that he is ? Too bad for you. Now back to topic please ! Sorry but I'm kinda very patriotic and very easily-angerable when someone attacks Québec. |
| Chimerical12-15-05, 11:04 AM | I'm curious as to whether any of you francophones are familiar with the band Manau. They're big in France, so I'm wondering if they have made it to French Canada. I heard them when I was in France and fell in love with them. The big hit at that time was La Tribu de Dana. They're from the Brittany region of France, and their theme is "Celtic rap"... That term sounds silly, but it really isn't rap as most of us think of it — it is rap in the sense that the vocals are more just speaking and rhyming, not so much singing (and that makes it easier to understand what he's saying!). There are some beautiful instrumental elements also. Anyhow, a few of the songs on their debut album (Panique Celtique) are very D&D-ish, such as Un Mauvais Dieu. They also speak of the Druids quite a bit, though of course they're referring to the real ones. (Other songs are more politically meaningful, such as L'avenir est un Long Passe, which touches on WWI, WWII, and the Front National of present-day France.) It's good stuff, and I've wondered whether I would like it more or less if I were a native French speaker rather than a learned one. CJDragon, I'd really recommend ordering Panique Celtique from Amazon. You won't find Manau in US stores (at least I haven't), but you can order it. Listening to French music is a great way to increase your understanding of the language. I listen to it both because I enjoy it and because it's a way for me to keep the language fresh in my mind so I don't get totally rusty. I studied it for 7 years and spent a semester in France, but the saying is true — use it or lose it — and I don't get much opportunity to use it. I had to read Manau's lyrics to recognize a lot of what he says, and I looked up words I didn't understand, but now there are several songs I know from start to finish and can even sing along to (although I can't always keep up!). The fantasy elements may give it an added interest for you... I tried to listen to Edie Piaf when I first started taking French in junior high, and that didn't work out so well, since my musical tastes at the time were Skid Row, Megadeth, and Alice Cooper. :p |
| dan123412-15-05, 11:58 AM | My opinion was not meant to offend you at all. I was simply stating the fact that Canada is rather massively anglophone, and that Quebec is really the only true bilingual province. New-Brunswick bilingual ? Yeah right my ass ! The french population is somethin' like not even 40% there contrary to Quebec where its like 83%. I never said Québec had a smaller population of French speakers then NB. And even if we have smaller population it doesn’t mean we are not bilingual. And Quebecers are far more bilingual then new-brunswicker who can't simply understand put two words together without relying to english. The difference that I see here is we can talk French, and fluent French. Especially in the north of the province. In the south-east, we are influence by English yes, but most of the words that no one understands are from the old French language. Again it's all in the accent. It's like French all over the world; it's filled with different accents. In south east NB, we just happen to have an Acadian accent, we use words from the old French language. Thats why I HATE Canada too, a bunch of lying morrons like the Federal Goverment saying that Canada is a bilingual country is just pure-********. Quebec is the bilingual place, outside this and mayhaps some small towns in Ontario and in Manitoba(and some very small pecentage of NB) you can't be served in french. Yes, yes I'm a dirty separatist, so what are you gonna do ? Send me the army like Chrétien wanted to in '95 as he can't stand being the loosy loser that he is ? Too bad for you. Well that's a huge generalisation, lol. No offence too you, but wow. Every single person outside of Québec is a lying moron... ok then As for you being a separatist, why would I care about that, and why would I do anything about it. And as for NB, it's the law that at any provincial government institution has to serve you in both languages. By the way, NB is the only province by law that is officially bilingual. And as for being served in French, you will be lol. Have you ever been to NB?? Moncton is the largest city in NB, and the fastest growing city in Canada. You have the right to be served in French in Moncton, because the city passed a law that all stores have to serve in both languages. Since there is a HUGE percentage of the city that is French. And in Edmunston, Campbellton, Tracadie, Péninsule-Acadienne. There all big cities in NB, that are French. The only place that I wouldn't be surprised that you can't be served in French is in central NB. And Saint-Jean... Sorry but I'm kinda very patriotic and very easily-angerable when someone attacks Québec. I am sry if you feel I was attacking you, I simply said that it pisses me off when people from Québec don't realise there are other people in Canada speak french too. It's not an attack. . . |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-15-05, 07:46 PM | Sorry again, patriotic urges...Never-mind that. Yes I've been to NB, and I am myself a descendant from Acadian peoples. My point was just that most provinces lie when they say they are bilingual,(I was not saying every single canadian is a liar outside Quebec, contrary to what you were thinking, simply got misunderstood sorry) try to be served in french in Toronto and in Calagary...good-luck ! Same for goes for Vancoucer ! And yes I know that NB is the only official bilingual province in all of Canada. |
| MinionOfCthulhu12-15-05, 09:17 PM | D&D is the same in French as it is in English, except the French version focuses more on running away from fights than engaging in them. :D |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-15-05, 10:08 PM | except the French version focuses more on running away from fights than engaging in them. The hell ? how can you say that ? Do you even understand or comprehend french at all, before speaking like that ? If that wasn't an insult agaisnt french-speaking natives, I wonder what it is was ? |
| Patrakis12-15-05, 10:18 PM | I think that was a insult against the french that would not get involed in the Irak war. French jokes like that pop up about everywhere in the US since the war. Every talk show host have their own little jokes like that against France and all that deal. I think it's too bad though. Pat |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-15-05, 10:30 PM | Yeah that just show the ignorance and the racism of americans as far as I care. |
| Patrakis12-15-05, 10:47 PM | I dont think all americans are like that. I'm pretty sure there is a lot of them against the war. But hey! we're suppose to talk about books in french here. So let this political power keg rest oki? :) As for books, i think every single book of D&D from the famous red box of the first edition to the current day, were translated in french. I know i learned the game from a french version of the red box. My english was pretty bad at the time but one of the reason i do ok in english today is because of this game. I always found some of the translated game terms to sound strange in french. To me, cast a «projectile magique» at someone sounded less dangerous that castin a magic missile :) Pat |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-15-05, 11:05 PM | I don't know, its still the same damn spell for me I suppose. |
| Chimerical12-15-05, 11:26 PM | Yeah that just show the ignorance and the racism of americans as far as I care. Nice. And extrapolating one ignorant comment by one American to 300,000,000 people is the very picture of tolerance. I think that was a insult against the french that would not get involed in the Irak war. French jokes like that pop up about everywhere in the US since the war. Every talk show host have their own little jokes like that against France and all that deal. Unfortunately, jokes like that about the French go back a lot farther than Iraq. |
| StrahdVonZarovich12-15-05, 11:31 PM | Nice. And extrapolating one ignorant comment by one American to 300,000,000 people is the very picture of tolerance. Sorry but he did made a joke against french-people, and as one of them, I can't feel otherwise then being insulted, HOWEVER I do not say by all mean that ALL americans all like him. The last presedential just showed us how divided you people were 49 vs 51% and resulted in Bush being elected anyway so.. Anyway can't we return to the main subject please ? |
| OmiKapSi12-16-05, 01:44 PM | Speaking as an anglophone living in Quebec city, D&D is an excellent way to learn and practice french. I just recently got in contact with a local group who's playing Living Greyhawk, and it's superb practice. Yes, the books are published in french, but it's much simpler to just translate the stuff. The important thing is to play in french. Oh, and thanks for the Manau recommendation Chimerical, they really are a great band. |