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shadowen 10-09-05, 02:32 AM	i am well pleased with this movie after seeing it. i think they jest mite make a tv show out of it. i liked it becuse i could tell what skills their using(lol nerd in me). thou the black dragon threathed fire and not acid(thou when your a dragon god you can do what ever the hell you want.). in short i love this movie.
Beware of Kobold 10-09-05, 04:04 AM	it wasn't a black dragon though. it was a minor dragon god of some sort. that's why the movie was called "Wrath of the Dragon God"
PlaDeDump 10-09-05, 04:13 AM	I just saw the movie too. Overall, it's a pretty decent flick. I'm probably going to buy the DVD when it becomes available (if it isn't already). The dragon flying around destroying stuff is definitely my favorite part. :thumbsup:
Tyler Do'Urden 10-09-05, 04:21 AM	OMG BUT HE SED IT WAS A BALCK DRAGON!!!!!!1111one OMGWTFOMFGOLOLOLZBBQ *cough* It might not have been technically a god (divine rank and whatnot). It could have just been really, really, really powerful. Great wyrm with class levels or something.
PY1990 10-09-05, 05:07 AM	It was an Decent movie but over all It was'nt anything to go on about. :confused:
Seeker95 10-09-05, 10:41 AM	Things I Did Not Like: Damodar was a Non-Factor. If he was so almighty powerful, then he should have been able to demonstrate some semblance of that power in his actual combat encounters. He showed no skill or power. Deus Ex Machina 1 The orb was supposed to be the key. That and the wizards finding a way to place the orb back into temporal stasis. The heroes "recovered" the orb, but the wizards never completed the temporal stasis research. Didn't matter. The zombie-woman became a vertiable goddess anyway. Deus Ex Machina 2 The barbarian woman wasn't dead. And managed to appear exactly where she was needed. Without any sign of having been mauled to death by a harpy-thing. Story Editing for Time Many of the scene transitions seemed to be clipped. I assume this was to turn the complete movie into a set time slot. I am hoping the DVD proves this to be the case, and that the scene transitions are much better than presented. Dead Druid Well, not that the druid died, but rather that we didn't care that he died. I have no problem with losing characters in a movie. But we had no reason to miss him. He hadn't yet grown on us at all, and when he was gone I never found myself saying "Damn I wish the druid were still alive!" ********************************* Things I Liked D&D References At least four previous module references, three by name! And the gem of true seeing. And I assume the sword was vorpal or keen or whatever it is that lets a sword ignore hardness. And the purple worm stomach acid! And Jubilex! This movie was chock full of references to my past. D&D Creatures Magmin, Lich, Orc, Harpy, Dragon, Dark Mantle. There was definitely room for more than they included, since the various locations could have had a carrion crawler or other such dungeon denizens, but overall, I liked it. The Traps I just plain liked the mirror-floor trap. I wish they had let us actually see the path a little more clearly in the mirror, but it was fine. Using the rogue in a multiple traps through the movie environment was great! No D&D I References This movie may have included Damodar, but it treated the first movie the same way Highlander 3 treated Highlander II --> pretend it never happened! The Rogue He made the movie. 'Nuff said there. This was a made-for-tv movie. It felt like one from beginning to end. But it delivered everything a made-for-tv movie is supposed to deliver. I give it 3-1/2 stars out of 5. And now my biggest complaint about the experience: Sci-Fi Channel placed too many R-Rated Move commercials for a movie that is likely to include a generally younger audience. yes, the movie was TV-14, but it was D&D. I recommended this to my sister in law for her kids. I am confident that at the dinner we all have planned tonight, I am going to catch hell for the commercials.
pres_man 10-09-05, 11:08 AM	cleric not druid (he turned the spooks that were chasing them). I found it humorous that he died shortly after a DnD comercial going over the "rules" said, never let the cleric die.
darkness ninja of light 10-09-05, 11:14 AM	I liked it. There were a few cheesy parts but some definate eye-popping bits. I enjoyed being able to identify a lot of the monsters and other D&D references. Gosh, I even was statting out the characters. Barrek,for one, had low wisdom mainly since he couldn't even tell that a cleric of Obad-Hai who, just minutes ago, was nearly holding mass for every tree he chopped down WOULDN'T say "This **** tree fell on me!" ...nor would he not be able to do anything about it. *sigh* The main part I didn't like: Was it just me or did the council of mages suddenly forget what divine magic was? The high mage was actually calling it a "new type of magic" at one point. Wow, lich-girl used FAITH to cast magic! That must be some new type of magic no one's ever heard of that uses belief in divine power to cast! Someone tell the druids and clerics! At the beginning lich-girl definately mentioned the difference between divine and arcane. Was it really that special that she used faith in Obad-Hai to do...whatever she did? I mean, I think the clerics should have had a say in all that. Other than that and a few other bits of cheese, I must say I really enjoyed the goblin shaman's spike trap. The dragon in the mountain was quite a surprise (though if I found out I was in a cave where the walls were made primarily of great wyrm black dragon.....I would NOT open its eye to demonstrate this fact to others). Also, well, umm...the party in general was awesome, except once again there is a lack of a decently multi-racial party. I didn't want to see elf and humans. I wanted to see half-orcs and halflings and GNOMES! Once again gnomes are ignored. *sigh* Anyways, I enjoyed it. Edit: a few mistakes corrected
Dartanel 10-09-05, 11:50 AM	My impression of the Dragon was that he was some sort of Red Dracolich forced to inhabit the body of a Black Dragon. Although I wonder if they'll write up whatever feat he used to condense his breath weapon into a projectile capable of iterative attacks.
dngnb8 10-09-05, 12:01 PM	One could argue the Dragon Lichs used to be a Red Dragon. I think they used fire because the general population that may have watched associate fire with dragons breath weapon. The gem of true seeing should have saw the path that was seen in the mirror. (edit: Although there are some special magics that are used for story line LOL) I am glad they didnt reference the first movie or used the same characters because it was so bad. The nice thing about D&D is you can do 100 movies all different stories, all different heroes. That is what this game is about. Things I didnt like The barbarians "Death-Revival" Maybe an example of 0 hit points, but it sucked. The clerics demise - In 2nd Ed, most parties of that level could handle a white dragon without much problem. In 3rd Ed. a cleric with such high wisdom should have never taken on a white dragon face to face. The lower level mage solving all the riddles. All the high level mages (but one) seeming like morons without a clue The arch enemy of high power, being a complete moron when it was time to use his power. Things I liked: Ring of the Ram Staff of Thunderbolts Gem of True Seeing Skill set examples Barbarian Rage Alignment Portrayal The 4 books becoming the Libram References to Spheres of Magic The Lichs last minute betrayal. "Do it yourself! Ah the look on your face was worth it..." The movie was filled with continuity issues (already explained) but overall I did really enjoy this movie, and would watch it again. It was far superior to the first which was a waste of celluloid. I was entertained for the few hours. Unfortunately, the actors werent very good (sans the thief). I did like the captain of the guard. I thought that was a very good storyline within the story. The show of loyalty and respect. There was a lot to like about the movie. I liked the commercials about get the books, get some dice and play. I think if wizards continues to product movies of this level, you will see a fast increase in D&D sales and participation. Kudos to those involved in pulling this off. It was done quite well, not over the head of non-adventure market, had enough in the movie for those who dont play to recognize when they do play, enough hooks for the gaming geeks to recognize. An excellent marketing/entertainment product. Well done indeed.
Jagyr Ebonwood 10-09-05, 12:19 PM	I just saw the movie too. Overall, it's a pretty decent flick. I'm probably going to buy the DVD when it becomes available (if it isn't already). Here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000B7QCG8/qid=1128874545/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-1651804-9022516?v=glance&s=dvd)
Koy Manus 10-09-05, 12:54 PM	I really liked this movie. the beginning was kind of slow but it grew on me as the movie progressed. I got Kind of confused with the whole Damodar and his formar master thing but maybe thats just me. I’m not really sure why they killed off the cleric. I was so sure that after they killed the dragon they would cut open it's stomach and find him still alive. I was kind of disappointed when I realized that he had actually died. what a waste I recognized most of the D&D references, however the one thing I can't identify is that flying creature the litch transformed into. The movie definitely had some rough edges but I think it was actually a good movie (Ironically the first one obviously had a higher budget but was just plain horrible)
Agognon 10-09-05, 02:09 PM	I really liked this movie too. The only thing bugging me was how, supposedly, divine magic was some lost art, and yet they had a cleric who cast spells and turned undead. I wish that when they got to the goblin village there would have been at least one goblin there for the party to interact with, preferrably the goblin shaman hiding with the chest with the book. The movie left me wanting more, and what I want is a TV series but at least more movies would be cool. D&D lends itself more to an episodic format than one-shot movies.
primemover003 10-09-05, 02:28 PM	No D&D I References This movie may have included Damodar, but it treated the first movie the same way Highlander 3 treated Highlander II --> pretend it never happened! Actually Damodar did mention his Master Profion cursed him for failing his mission... minor references too, the kingdom is STILL called Izmer. Damodar said a century had passed since the first movie to the second...
pencil_mage 10-09-05, 02:34 PM	Finally, a Dungeons and Dragons TV commercial... Ahhhhhh, the pleasure.
Rotipher 10-09-05, 02:40 PM	While the first D&D movie might've been so awful that it's painful to remember, it *does* help explain why the mages knew so little about divine magic. In the original film, we didn't see a single cleric; in this one, they had to go waaaay out to the boondocks to find one. How come? In-character, it's because mages had repressed clerics for centuries in Ismeer, regarding them as rivals in magic (an idea inspired by Mystara's mage-ruled nations of Glantri and Alphatia). Out-of-character, clerics were downplayed to avert a "This movie promotes paganism!" backlash from mainstream theatrical audiences. I don't think that the "new magic" the Council member referred to was divine magic: clearly, the wizards knew that existed. More likely, the ancient orb-makers had used something not presented in the core D&D rules -- call it incarnum, call it psionics, call it Eberron's artificing, if you *have* to shoehorn it into a published D&D magic variant; more likely, it's something unique to this movie-gameworld -- which partook of both faith and know-how. Didn't Melora mention that there were *three* kinds of magic, back at the beginning of the film? I think the "third magic" in question was the ancient orb-makers' magic, which Ismeer's historians knew about but which (up until the movie's climax) nobody'd been able to use for centuries.
Anastrianna 10-09-05, 02:41 PM	I saw the movie and I think it was a great movie. But some of it did not make sense to me. But I play the role-playing game as well. So I hope they keep up with the movies.
Acheron 10-09-05, 02:46 PM	One thing no-one metioned about the cleric was when the party met the Lich like miles from the raft ( :confused: ). The Lich used DISINTERGRATION on the Cleric. he said so himself. But it only bound whats-his-face. Then when they're all running away, you see the supposidly DISINTEGRATED cleric having a major role in their escape. He turned the specters or ghosts or what ever they were. And I have to agree on this, it did seem alittle clipped at spots...
Thievingrouge 10-09-05, 02:54 PM	It was okay. Last I checked (a looooong time ago) lich's couldn't polymorph. I couldn't tell what the flying things where. The teleport cannot trap your arm in a pillar. nor a brick wall. Juiblex dosen't acknolege the existence of mortals enough to make artifacts like that (In 3e descriptions) Falazure did what he was supposed to (I assumed he was using the spell to make a fire breath) the party wizard was using single target spells on all those bandits. The party wizard hit the party barbarian The only way Damodar could have lived another 100 years and look that young was by being epic. He didn't act epic. Why the wizard didn't teleport back to the temple to get the cleric raised was beyond me. the PC's could have waited a day.
d_nychus 10-09-05, 03:17 PM	Did anyone else have the Closed Captions on during the movie? We turned them on so we could MST3K the movie and still get the gist if we were laughing too hard during a stupid part. Whoever wrote them should be shot. Or given an Emmy for comedy. Ruins instead of Runes, Litch and Witch instead of Lich, and (mumbling in foreign language to cast a spell). I think we laughed more at the captions than anything else in the movie. I liked the cleric, mostly because of his greeting of the soldiers sent to get him. "Take off your shoes when entering my temple." <WHAM!!> The references to the Ghost Tower of Inverness and the Barrier Peaks were entertaining. I had to explain what they were to a few of my friends during the commercials. Jubelix was a welcome name. I liked the influence the demon lord had. And was I the only one who thought the white dragon was too 'fangy?' Oh, yeah... Finally, a Dungeons and Dragons TV commercial... Ahhhhhh, the pleasure. Best part of the movie, in my opinion. Between that and the Cardinals sweeping the Padres, it was a pretty good night.
Lao, Ninja of the Dragon 10-09-05, 03:17 PM	One thing no-one metioned about the cleric was when the party met the Lich like miles from the raft ( :confused: ). The Lich used DISINTERGRATION on the Cleric. he said so himself. But it only bound whats-his-face. Then when they're all running away, you see the supposidly DISINTEGRATED cleric having a major role in their escape. He turned the specters or ghosts or what ever they were. And I have to agree on this, it did seem alittle clipped at spots... That was an illusion. A cleric of Obad-Hai would never, ever say "This *censored* tree fell on me!" Clerics of Obad-Hai revere nature, not cuss at it.
Nakranoth 10-09-05, 03:18 PM	i havent seen it yet..i just hope it was better then the first movie, way to many dragons in the first movie, not that i dont like dragons but i thought it was a bit of overkill..but thats my opinion
EvilPheemy 10-09-05, 03:27 PM	Dorian was not disintegrated. The "Dorian under the tree" was an illusion, to draw "our Hero" into the lich's trap.
Armitage 10-09-05, 03:34 PM	It might not have been technically a god (divine rank and whatnot). It could have just been really, really, really powerful. Great wyrm with class levels or something. It was stated early in the movie that the "dragon" was an avatar of Falazure, draconic deity of undeath, decay, exhaustion, and energy draining. As such I suppose he could manifest with whatever breath weapon he liked. If you really want to be picky, Faluzure's standard avatar is a shadow dragon with vestigial wings.
Aladdar 10-09-05, 03:37 PM	I recorded it last night and just watched it this afternoon. Overall an enjoyable movie and about as good as a made for tv movie will be. I've never seen the first movie, probably want, but I did see some of the special effects in it. If they had used the budget from that movie with this script I think the movie would have been better. The only thing I didn't like was the barbarian showing up out of nowhere to stop the lich. I thought she was dead or unconscious and dying. Sure she may have stabalized but she couldn't have gotten back to that point that quickly, and realistically she would have been quite damaged looking. To answer the post earlier, the wizard couldn't teleport them back to a cleric to save the rogue because they had to get the sphere back before that night to stop the dragon from being released. As it turned out the dragon was released anyhow, but had they waited a day the whole village would have been destroyed.
primemover003 10-09-05, 04:56 PM	I think the whole put the Orb back into stasis was just a best guess by the Mage's council and the King... once the orb was out and destroyed by Falazure they needed to create a new orb, which Malora did using the ancient magic.
Rotipher 10-09-05, 05:24 PM	Last I checked (a looooong time ago) lich's couldn't polymorph. That was probably a Shapechange spell, which can change the caster into other creature-types. I couldn't tell what the flying things where. Probably gargoyles called up by a Summon Monster spell of the lich's. The teleport cannot trap your arm in a pillar. nor a brick wall. It could under previous editions' rules. It might also have been part of Damodar's lair's defenses, that deflected the Teleport to entrap incoming spellcasters. Besides, it was cool. Juiblex dosen't acknolege the existence of mortals enough to make artifacts like that (In 3e descriptions). In the standard game-cosmology, yes. In Ismeer's game setting, who knows? Lolth doesn't spell her name "Lloth" in the standard pantheon either, yet she does so in FR. the party wizard was using single target spells on all those bandits. Given all the Lighting Bolts she was chucking in a single day, it's pretty clear she has a Staff of Thunderbolts or something similar. She's an elf, so her Concentration checks aren't that good; perhaps she used the Staff because she feared a cast spell would get interrupted? The only way Damodar could have lived another 100 years and look that young was by being epic. He didn't act epic.. Damodar was cursed to become undead by his boss from the first film. That's why he's no older in this one -- he spent a century in an unaging, undead body -- and why he was so ticked off. Come to think of it, that's probably why they kept him alive in a jail cell instead of executing him: he's *still* under Profion's old curse, so would just come back again as an undead (and incorporeal, if they disintegrated his body)! BTW, the actors who'd played the villains of the first film reportedly felt unhappy that their characters had died, as (prior to the theatrical film's disasterous reception) they'd had fun on the production and wished they could be in any theoretical sequals. Courtney Solomon overheard them grumbling, and promptly informed the actors that, off the top of his head, he could think of at least six ways to bring their characters back to life, under the D&D rules! Shocked silence descended over the film's cast, and then -- hesitantly, in tones of stunned disbelief -- a voice whispered: "You can DO that...?" Welcome to Dungeons & Dragons! :-D
elven warriorXX 10-09-05, 05:31 PM	I liked it all and every thing fit into the game. I am happy to call this movie the True D&D movie :) (i don't even think that the other D&D movie is D&D, it is something else :nonono: ) This movie had very good special effects and good acting. And i liked all the D&D monsters :D
Rotipher 10-09-05, 05:33 PM	The only thing I didn't like was the barbarian showing up out of nowhere to stop the lich. I thought she was dead or unconscious and dying. Sure she may have stabalized but she couldn't have gotten back to that point that quickly, and realistically she would have been quite damaged looking. Maybe her rage wore off, and she collapsed (0 hp) from a combination of fatigue and the resulting drop in Con? The gargoyle left her for dead; she regained consciousness and went into another rage, using the resulting increase in Con-based hp to buy time to treat her own wounds (or drink a potion or whatever). Once back into positive-hp territory, she rode back to Ismeer, waited in hiding until the enemy was distracted (she's barbaric, not stupid!), then triggered her rage for a third time and pounced when Berek held the villain's attention.
primemover003 10-09-05, 05:34 PM	The Lich shapechanged into a 4 armed gargoyle (a nod to Acerack & the tomb of horror's), the other flying creatures were Harpies. I think it is Greyhawk as all the references are on Oerth & the Gods are GH. As for Juiblex not responding to mortals... You can get a lot out of Demon if when you summon them, but juiblex got his revenge by making the Pool with a flaw.
darkness ninja of light 10-09-05, 05:41 PM	Hmmm...about the Barbarian, is it possible she could have raged when she was almost dead? I haven't played a barbarian yet so I'm not sure on the rules. It didn't seem like she did, but fighter-guy did have trouble trying to stop her from killing the wussy villain Damodar and she DID come back out of nowhere with seemingly more hit points. It seemed like her backstory made her unwilling to rage, though. When the wizard accidentally hit her with the ring of ram it looked like she was about to. Gosh she's confusing me now. As for getting to the lich's spot on time, remember she does have fast movement. Other than that, I'd just have to say it was a strange and somewhat cheesy scene. There was another thing I liked about the movie though, the growing friendship of the rogue and barbarian.
primemover003 10-09-05, 05:47 PM	If anything the Barbarians "Rages" were a bit weak...
Rotipher 10-09-05, 06:09 PM	I think it is Greyhawk as all the references are on Oerth & the Gods are GH. It is NOT Oerth. This was stated clearly in past articles and GenCon discussions about the first D&D movie. Ismeer is loosely inspired by two wizard-ruled Mystaran nations, but it's in its own unique campaign world. Yes, the deities' and demons' names originally came from Greyhawk, but that's because the film used the Greyhawk-inspired default PHB pantheon; the same deities have been used in thousands of home-brew campaigns that aren't Greyhawk. Ditto for the module names, as adventures get transplanted into other campaign worlds all the time.
kaeso 10-09-05, 09:40 PM	ok, when they were in Damadar's keep thing, and the elf wizard said "I can send you to the temple, but I cannot come with you" was it becuase she was too weak? And then Barek hit her w/ his sword (that's what it looked like) and he was suddenly carrying her. Anyone know what happened here? My favorite part of the movie (plot-wise) was Barek's wife gaining faith and becoming like... a focus for obad hai to work through or something. The funniest part was the rogue revealing the spike trap, that was great. I loved how you could see them using their skills and abilities (the elf wizard found the hidden door!), that was great too. Ok, when Barek had Damadar on the ground, and threatened to kill him, WHY DID DAMADAR GET RID OF THE CURSE?! Barek OBVIOUSLY couldn't kill him, if he did 1. his wife would die, which would cause 2. the shiny white orb would stop working which would mean 3. everyone would be screwed and the dragon would eat them. I must have missed something.
SinisterSeraph 10-09-05, 09:52 PM	When the wizard teleported them, her arm was inside the wall. She fused to it, and thats why she couldn't go with them. He cut off her arm where it fused to the wall so that they could take her with them to the healers.
kaeso 10-09-05, 10:20 PM	OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH :eek: I rewound it and watched it... definitely painful! WOAH AND THEY SHOW THE STUB! ok so what about the Damadar thing? The only thing I can think of is that since Barek's wife was dieing anyways, if they were all going to die then he would make sure Damadar died too, and Damadar realized this and let her go cause he wanted to live? He's evil after all, and if he lives to fight another day (or live in a prison) then he still has a chance of killing them all. Is this wrong? is there a different reason?
Realmsrat 10-09-05, 10:43 PM	Lux was ready to kill him, and Berrek basically implied that if Damodar saved his wife he stop Lux. So Damodar gets to live to get his revenge another day.
kaeso 10-09-05, 10:52 PM	Is anyone else considering buying this besides me?
Nolgoth 10-09-05, 10:56 PM	I really like the movie. Liked that we could recognize the party members' classes. Dorian the cleric should have cast a healing spell at some point though. Of course he kind of got munched early on. Since they were making so many references that players would recognize, they should have had a scene where we find out that the barbarian can't read :D . Sticking to rules and all. The next movie needs to have a bard.
Realmsrat 10-09-05, 11:02 PM	I am so putting this movie on my christmas wish list.
Tyler Do'Urden 10-09-05, 11:22 PM	Damodar was a Non-Factor. If he was so almighty powerful, then he should have been able to demonstrate some semblance of that power in his actual combat encounters. He showed no skill or power. Yeah, that bothered me too. I didn't watch the whole first movie, but I distinctly remember him being a full-plate-wearing, nigh unkillable death dealer, and he was easily taken down by a simple 10th-level barbarian. Oh yeah, and he got his arm cut off. That's gonna go on his permanent record.
Tomovasky 10-10-05, 12:24 AM	Well, This weekend I got to see some good movies. Started with serenity then next I saw Unlashed and then after a major run of gaming I sate and watched Kingdom of Heaven. So after all this big title I sat down to see the almost infamies D&D movie 2. I have to see for a T.V. movie it was amazing. I could go on but I think those who wrote before me cover it well. I have to say with the improvement it makes me exited for the 3rd as you know the 3rd try is the best
Roreck 10-10-05, 12:34 AM	I have to say with the improvement it makes me exited for the 3rd as you know the 3rd try is the best What news is there of a thirid movie? I personally thought the second one was good, too bad I missed it on sci fi I missed the DnD comericals but I can see this movie again and again on my computer so it balances, if someone has someway of sending me the DnD comericals or telling me more info on them it would be greatly appreciated. The movie stuck to the rules of DnD very well other than the teleport working more like 2nd edition teleport (or I think that is how it worked in 2nd I don't really know) than 3.X but still. Great movie and it will forever take up 691 MB on my comp.
Tyler Do'Urden 10-10-05, 02:53 AM	What news is there of a thirid movie? "Just a fool's hope." If they keep this ball rolling, they can do a whole library of B+ movies for every setting; Faerun, Greyhawk, Dragonlance, Eberron, Dark Sun... It'll be glorious.
StinkinSith 10-10-05, 03:54 AM	The main part I didn't like: Was it just me or did the council of mages suddenly forget what divine magic was? The high mage was actually calling it a "new type of magic" at one point. Wow, lich-girl used FAITH to cast magic! That must be some new type of magic no one's ever heard of that uses belief in divine power to cast! Someone tell the druids and clerics! At the beginning lich-girl definately mentioned the difference between divine and arcane. Was it really that special that she used faith in Obad-Hai to do...whatever she did? I mean, I think the clerics should have had a say in all that. Wouldn't you have to have faith to be able to draw upon divine power for Cleric spells. Certainly no god (Obad-Hai), would favor one that did not have faith. Faith is the channel through which divine power flows. Would a cleric be a cleric if he didn't have faith? A druid certainly would have to have faith also for the same reasons. Even a non-cleric could gain the favor of a god in who's power they had faith in. For Magic-users faith wouldn't be something that they would be that particularly familiar with, understanding it or having knowledge of it perhaps, but it wouldn't be their main focus in their forms of magic. So yes to a Magic-user it would be a novel form of magic to use as opposed to the reality changing spells which draw on the strength of the caster as opposed to a divine source. That's how I would reason it anyway.
Seeker95 10-10-05, 11:18 AM	Did anyone else have the Closed Captions on during the movie? [...] Whoever wrote them should be shot.Closed-captioning is not "written". It is a "talk-to-text" program.
Valoy_Muniz 10-10-05, 11:51 AM	I for one like this movie alot. I am hoping they do the same thing they do the same thing they did to Hurcles at first and make a few movies like this for tv.
bobsan 10-10-05, 11:55 AM	"Just a fool's hope." If they keep this ball rolling, they can do a whole library of B+ movies for every setting; Faerun, Greyhawk, Dragonlance, Eberron, Dark Sun... It'll be glorious. Now a Realms movie would be grand. I too did enjoy this movie and hope another one would be made.
jakefm2377 10-10-05, 12:20 PM	ok i repeat i saw the first move and thought it was horrible Beside the beholder in the first move i did not think it was anything like dnd This move i could tell i was dnd. They made a big improvement in follow "dnd rule" i could pick up spell classes feat abilities and what not. I find that to be a huge improvement over the first Yes i could tell it was a low budget film but it being a scifi moving i was expecting that and did not jack up my hopes My two biggest complaints were no dwarfs and i think they could have made the lich better even for a low budge movie. I do not think he looked dead enough I liked the movie and would see in again in a hart beat I think i even want to use it to introduce people to dnd
Transit 10-10-05, 01:52 PM	This movie was certainly better than the first one. Better than a lot of other movies that get shown on the SCIFI channel. (Just how many giant snake movies staring Dean Cain or Lorenzo Lamas do we really need?) The best part was all the details that they threw in from the actual game. When the mage cast the vision spell, she asked her husband to go get four pieces of ivory and some incense - "the expensive kind." (In the game rules, the compenents for that spell include "incense worth at least 25 gp.") I also liked the mention of classic adventures. The Ghost Tower of Inverness. The Shrine of the Kuo-Toa. And did anyone catch the fact that the Barbarian's brother had gone insane after a quest to the Barrier Peaks? [Expedition to the Barrier Peaks was one of the stranger old school modules, involving a crashed alien spaceship and a bunch of alien monsters.] Overall not a bad job, although to anyone who didn't know D&D and didn't catch the hidden references, it's just another cheesy swords and sorcery movie. Still, I think I'll go ahead and buy it on DVD.
Super_Demolition_Christ 10-10-05, 02:30 PM	I liked all the little details that made D&D players feel at home "I only prepared two teleportation spells" "Since I've never been there or seen it I could teleport us a 100 miles in any direction" Her somatic components. the ivory and incense components. Mage "They are using a discern location spell" me: Wait, thats an actual spell. When the Wizard used firewall to put a barrier between here and the enemy. Not sure what she used on the invisible tomb thingy, but Im guessing it was Dispel. the Gem of true Seeing the fact that apparently the barbarian ran faster than the others (I think it was when they where running to the boat, she was a good15-20 feet ahead of them) The cleric turning the ghosts when the wizard cast control winds or whatever. and my favorite part "Come villiany, death awaits you"
PenderGrass 10-10-05, 04:18 PM	I place my vote in here - I for one, liked it. It was far better than that other, unspeakable, horror of a fiasco. Thanks, Wizos for learning from your mistakes. ****
Seeker95 10-10-05, 05:07 PM	Thanks, Wizos for learning from your mistakes.The WizOs had nothing to do with either movie. Wizards of the Coast had almost nothing to do with either movie.
Goreg Skullcrusher 10-10-05, 08:15 PM	I'm just going to chime in and say I thoroughly enjoyed the dialogue. The lines were spoken with a hint of wit behind each one, and regardless of whether the actor/actress delivered it properly the actual wording was rarely cheesy. It didn't hurt having British-sounding (were they British?) actors either. The slew of DnD references more than made up for the tiny inconsistences. Going to pick up the DVD I think.
High Octane 10-10-05, 08:21 PM	And now for my review! *tiny cricket plays a tune on a tiny trumpet and is promptly squished when I close my PHB* In a nutshell, this movie was a vast improvement and actually worth watching. In a longer statement, you have to take into account some things. First: It was a D&D movie, and D&D is hard to make a movie out of, much less one where everyone (not just D&D players) Second: It was a Sci Fi movie of the week. It wont have a huge budget or access to the best resources. In short, there is only so much you can expect from a movie like that. By no means was it oscar worthy or even theatre worthy. It was, however, not a waste of 2 hours. It also did not insult me as a D&D player which is a LOT more than the first movie ever did. Step by step: Acting: Not bad, but I would say barely adequate. (still adequate) No actor was atrocious, but none were exemplary. The best it got was the rogue, who was pretty roguey. The worst it got was Damodar. Bruce Payne is just a bad actor. He was better than he was, but still kind of bad. Everyone else brought nothing to the film, good or bad, as far as acting goes. The barbarian was obviously there for a pretty face and other things. At least she actually WAS hot. Oh well. Costumes/outfits: For the most part, they looked fairly well made but obviously on a shoestring budget. The rogue and wizard both had good outfits, but the other's outfits were, too light. The fighter had some sort of ringmail vest, which was kind of cheap, but not eye hurting. The wizards robes looked fine, though the staffs looked like hell. The barbarians outfit was something out of Xena. Too sexy to be practical. Special effects: This showed a professionalism that the last director did not have, The effects were few, fair quality, and short. Signs of a low budget once again, however unlike the first director, he didnt TRY to have huge big budget effect shots without big bucks. Some of the effects were a bit cheezy, but not too bad (Except ring of the ram, which was just CAMPY) Backgrounds: Claustrophobic, and misleading in a sense of scale. Ismeer seemed no larger than the castle in Army of Darkness until the end of the movie. The dungeon scenes were not bad, but were somehat lacking in detail. Dialogue: It had its moments, but then again, it blew it on other moments. "Thats what the magmin was trying to tell us!" Yech. Still a VAST improvement and pretty accurate to player @ player dialogue in character. Plot: Straight from a game really. I could see this game actually being played. Overall: Seeing as how I expected a bomb, I was pleased. It wasn't bad. It was accurate, had light references but did not break the fourth wall. I wouldnt go to the theatre for it, but for 10 bucks I'd get it on DVD. Might be good for visual references. By the way, the opening was visually exactly how a D&D movie should be. I wish they had gotten a better villain. They can do more with it, but I am at least hopeful this is a step up, and hopeful it will lead to another, even better movie. But if they dont plan on increasing the quality, just leave it.
ZehnWaters 10-10-05, 08:26 PM	Well I for one have started getting interested in DnD (I was a Star Wars RPG person before, still am) because of the movie so...there ya go! -Zehn Waters, the Silaglaren
obrysii 10-10-05, 08:34 PM	I liked how they for the most part gave justice to the monster races. Although the sorceroress girl (the one dying) slowed the whole story down. It could have done without her. Also, I was hoping for a nice big dragon vs. dragon duel (one on one) between like a bronze and that black...instead just a gigantic turn undead. But I can't complain, they got the dragons almost correct in it.
souldragon_420 10-10-05, 09:51 PM	Finally, a Dungeons and Dragons TV commercial... Ahhhhhh, the pleasure. Did you never see the one they had a few years ago where this nerd and a model were dating and towards the end he gives her an anaversy gift and its a players handbook. It was great.
Ninetails Demon 10-10-05, 10:20 PM	I was up at Samhein for belegarth and i couldn't catch it. Does anyone know if they are going to play it again on sci-fi, or will I have to purchase the movie to see it? I'd really like to watch it, it sounds pretty entertaining. :weep:
souldragon_420 10-10-05, 10:36 PM	I like it alot and the thing i think happened with the barberian was she fought the harpies and drop just out in front of the temple so i figure a cleric came out and saw her unconsicous and cast few cure lights or whatever and got her back on her feet so she could go help in the end. Just my thoughts.
Seeker95 10-10-05, 11:14 PM	It plays again on Sci-Fi Thursday night.
Roreck 10-10-05, 11:29 PM	It plays again on Sci-Fi Thursday night. do you happen to know when. EST por favor.
PenderGrass 10-11-05, 11:55 AM	The WizOs had nothing to do with either movie. Wizards of the Coast had almost nothing to do with either movie. WotC rules. The Wizos did have much to do with it as well. If not for them, much of life would not happen. ****
Asurefireeyes 10-11-05, 12:11 PM	I agree with Souldragon 420 I mean she did chose to hold her Ground to stall the Harpies right out side the Temple Grounds that would reasonably explane her fast recovery I also greatly enjoyed the movie It was much better then the first :cool:
Seeker95 10-11-05, 01:07 PM	do you happen to know when. EST por favor.Sci-Fi Channel (http://www.sci-fi.com)
Ninetails Demon 10-12-05, 01:49 AM	Thanks seeker. I give you a.. :cookie: ! enjoy, yum!